Yoshi P to Mr.Happy "Heal DPS is not mandatory and no expectation for Healer to DPS!"

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Originally Posted by Stormbad

No, what he is saying is use up the 90-120 duty time limit, it's all yours.

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If it takes that long without a healer DPSing then I'm sorry but your DPS is bad :D

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Originally Posted by Fyce

http://i.imgur.com/WBVNbFF.jpg

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This is beautiful. Did you make it?

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Originally Posted by Chukkaque

well the majority of the player base plays the game casually and isn't interested in maximizing damage. So yeah, making it through content and playing occasional is good enough for them, and a lot of players. No one died, hurray! I think some of you guys are taking it way to seriously. I mean, enjoy the game however you like, but dont bring down other players for playing how they like.

If you don't like randoms in DF, form your own party.

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So what you are telling me is, they can't bring me down for pulling EVERYTHING, kitchen sink included, as a tank and make it more difficult for the healer to keep me alive as I will be taking more damage, as that is how I like to play as a tank. Like by that logic, if we can't complain about healers not doing DPS, they can't complain when a tank just pulls everything and tanks it all at once and forces the healer to maintain a constant healing up time to keep the tank alive, and that if they don't like it they should form their own party.

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Originally Posted by TamurilRains

So a healer is expected to not only heal the DPS who stand in crap they shouldn't be standing in, but also to deal damage in order to make up for the lack of DPS those people are essentially not producing?

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I expect healers to do something with most of their gcd's, same as I would a dps or tank. This claim that healing is all the work a healer needs to do is spurious because it can require so little of your actual attention depending on what content you are doing.

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Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck

Yup, if the healer is keeping you alive then they are doing their job. That is factual game design even if you do not like it. As I have stated to everyone, try to get employed at SE and change FF14 for healers to dps as mandatory. Til then....nothing more needs to be said.

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This sounds like a group project in highschool.
There's 4 students, one jumps up and says, "I wanna be the ideas person!!" The rest of the group sort of sighs and says ok.
The project starts, the ideas person does in fact come up with ideas, awesome. Work on the project starts, the ideas person is now on their phone. When asked why they aren't helping. "I come up with ideas! You guys do the rest! I only wanted to do ideas! Don't tell me what to do!!"

"Just healing" doesn't require full-time attention/effort in equivalence to tanking or dpsing properly. You have a right to be lazy, sure. Others have a right to call you out on it and potentially kick you if they want.

I personally don't even care in roulettes, but I'll continue to DPS as a healer myself, because I try to be considerate of others.

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Originally Posted by TamurilRains

If it takes that long without a healer DPSing then I'm sorry but your DPS is bad :D

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LOL this is fun but true

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Originally Posted by Chukkaque

If you don't like randoms in DF, form your own party.

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I hate this argument.

It isn't about having an issue with random people, it's about having an issue with lazy people.

Moreover, the argument can go both ways. Want to have your own long expert roulette filled with people playing sub-optimally? Form your own party.

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Originally Posted by Fyce

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Lol, it was pretty amusing.

PotD, however, is a completely different ballpark. You don't que as a role for it. Therefore tanking and healing literally don't matter. It would be more accurate to say PotD is basically like grouping with 3 others in open world (that place those healer damage spells were designed for ^_~). You might try to help keep each other alive but, you really don't have to. I treat it as if I'm solo personally. There just happen to be 3 others nearby working towards the same thing lol.

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Originally Posted by Arkdra

I expect healers to do something with most of their gcd's, same as I would a dps or tank. This claim that healing is all the work a healer needs to do is spurious because it can require so little of your actual attention depending on what content you are doing.

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And here we go "it depends on the content" thanks so much for saying that! So now we have established that a healer DPSing is only circumstantial, what if said content is too much for the healer to cleric stance swap and they feel more comfortable healing? Seriously folks, this whole thing can be easily fixed. Make your own group and don't use the DF if you're going to be so picky about how others play!

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Originally Posted by kattzkitti

Just because you have healer jobs leveled, that doesn't make you a healer. Anyone who advocates healer dps being mandatory is no healer, period. You might mostly play on healer jobs, but you're a DPS player because you can't think of anything other than min/maxing DPS and shoving your demands on others.

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Because someone has a different mindset to you, you are just going to ignore the literal facts, If I queue as a healer I am a healer, mindset has nothing to do with what ROLE I perform within the party, and people advocating healer DPS isn't about being a healer or DPS in the way you play it's about people being lazy, if you are not always casting you are not always contributing (no fight in this entire game requires you to back to back healer for every global cooldown) and if you are not always contributing you are not equal to the 3/7 other party members.