SE is always SE... Rage inside... :/

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

Oh my thread is back again.

Anyway i want to remember to all, that i'm not complanining about the fact that i didn't receive the invite
(ill try the alpha anyway ... :P ) but becaus IMHO it's just wrong to give the access to people that played a few of hours.

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Yeah we believe you. You would have made this thread even if you got into alpha right?

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Originally Posted by Thebard

Yeah we believe you. You would have made this thread even if you got into alpha right?

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Well to be honest maybe not. Or at least not asap as i did..

But after hearing that many people with inactive account, that just registred the game without even logging in 1 time got the invite, well i think yes then.

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

Oh my thread is back again.

Anyway i want to remember to all, that i'm not complanining about the fact that i didn't receive the invite
(ill try the alpha anyway ... :P ) but becaus IMHO it's just wrong to give the access to people that played a few of hours.

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Oh? Would you preferred 10 hours? 40? Must have cleared Ifrit 20 times?

"Who is worthy!?"

Why wiuld it be needed to play an old game a certain amount of time to test and sit around for a new one at SE's request?

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Oh? Would you preferred 10 hours? 40? Must have cleared Ifrit 20 times?

"Who is worthy!?"

Why wiuld it be needed to play an old game a certain amount of time to test and sit around for a new one at SE's request?

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For a few hours i mean ppl that logged in 1 time, said: ok this game is sh*t.
Then after an apply (with inactive account . . .) they can log over, who paid and enjoyed this game..

This is simply not right IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

For a few hours i mean ppl that logged in 1 time, said: ok this game is sh*t.
Then after an apply (with inactive account . . .) they can log over, who paid and enjoyed this game..

This is simply not right IMHO.

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They are also a much larger crowd than your adherents. Besides, if the testers do not show up, SE asks for more. If they do, can you honestly say they aren't interested?

But it was shit....

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Originally Posted by Xikeroth

I for one am not bothered at all that I didn't get into the alpha. I'm patient and I have other things I can do with my time. Now I would LOVE to get into the alpha that would make my day getting that email. I am a fan after all. I hope for the beta test personally I can test for my PC and my PS3 if needed, its no problem either way.

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I was with you, following along, pretty much through your whole post up to this point.

So, after bashing fans for several paragraphs, calling them blind defenders who will slam anyone who so much as utters one word of criticism at a game... you turn around and declare that you would love an invite, in part, because you're a fan. So, based on the rest of your post, you - by your own say so - shouldn't get an invite.

Are you being deliberately ironic there, or just mind-bogglingly contradictory?

And by the by, your generalizations about "fans being unable to give helpful feedback" is completely unfair.

I consider myself a SE and FFXIV fan, and that's why I would be in there testing. I would be in there providing bug reports and other feedback to help the game improve. Because, as a I fan, I want to see the game be rock solid and ready when it launches.

Are there people who only want invites so they get to "play the game and see the changes early?". Yep. And I suspect they will be the ones in the alpha/beta forums (assuming they have them again) complaining about "lack of content" and "not enough to do", insisting that SE needs to "open up more of the game so they can progress more", and regarding the game like everything they're seeing is "final" - like they did for 1.0 and in other games' alpha/beta tests. No matter how much you explain what Alpha/Beta is for, to some people, it is and will always be "a free trial".

However, I also know that there was a number of people who were providing helpful and useful feedback - as fans - in Alpha/Beta for 1.0, and I have no doubt they'd be doing so again.

So... careful with the generalizations, and use smaller strokes when describing a group of people.

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

For a few hours i mean ppl that logged in 1 time, said: ok this game is sh*t.
Then after an apply (with inactive account . . .) they can log over, who paid and enjoyed this game..

This is simply not right IMHO.

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C'mon this is only Alpha. Let them laugh. They may play Alpha for a few weeks now but they can only jump around in Gridania and give their feedback to the game, which is as I hope not too bad -.-'

But as the game finally releases you can laugh at them, because you got legacy and only have to pay 9.99 € and they need to pay the full price and don't have a cool legacy chocobo :D

I hope we can join in Beta, sure - I want to help them testing too but we were not lucky enough.

...2-3 months till Beta :P man I can't wait...

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Originally Posted by Thebard

Yeah we believe you. You would have made this thread even if you got into alpha right?

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lolsogood.

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

I'm not whining because i didn't receive the alpha invitation, but a lot of my friend that have quit the game AFTER THE FIRST MONTH FROM THE RELEASE GOT IT! And me (and others of course) supporting the game and paying for the crappy 1.0, didn't receive it.

Only who had an active FFXIV account was supposed to get the invitation right?

Now tell me dear SE, for the love of god WHY??? :mad:

It was a kind of application site bug? If this was wanted? Just need clarification about this.

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I feel your pain, it is very unfair....

I also see people not following the NDA and people that could care less about testing...seriously, all they wanted to do was to try out jumping lol