Hildibrand for relic? Really?

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Not sure whether they were being actually serious about this or not, but either way it's bad form to require such an absurdly long questline to be completed before we can do this expansion’s relic. I don’t even think Ivalice is as time consuming, and at least acts as a skill check on the playerbase.

Just why?

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Just Why not ?


It's not as if the stories of the relics of ARR, HW, SB, ShB are of any interest.

Looking for relics forget with a rabbit, a zombie or a dog, it's about the same, it's going to be a big no-brainer farm for several patches.

Honestly my biggest worry now is that future Hildebrand quests in later expansions could end up stuck behind a relic grind. Hopefully it just branches off and I can ignore it when the grind wears out its welcome.

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Originally Posted by Naoki34

Just Why not ?


It's not as if the stories of the relics of ARR, HW, SB, ShB are of any interest.

Looking for relics forget with a rabbit, a zombie or a dog, it's about the same, it's going to be a big no-brainer farm for several patches.

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Story enjoyment is kind of subjective which I think is causing the issue here. I really liked getting the resolution to Eureka for example as it was just a dangling plot thread from ARR.

I think that is part of my issue, I know several people who will be heart-broken if this isn't Hildibrand styled story as nothing really indicates it won't be that and while I personally am not a huge fan of that I do question if that style of quest and story telling can carry a grind fest like a relic.

I wanted something like Bozja and Eureka to be honest. But I like Hildebrand so I don’t mind.

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Originally Posted by Graeham

I have read the views made by lackluster story writers guild on the forum and I think Hildebrand is no good for the relic. The weakness is the story. Good stories have suspense and drama like a Game of the Thrones and Heavensward. People do not like Hildebrand because they make it too much like slice of life anime when it needs dark fantasy genre.

Hildebrand feels weak because of many death fake outs. Every time Nashu hits with explosion, you think is this it at last? But no he is still alive. The other problem is the story bias. Hildebrand is the gentleman of light. What about the gentleman of dark? We only hear one bias view because of bad localization of french story to japanese.

I am also mad about a video clip I see. Hildebrand fires missle at the earth to genocide the people. But Nashu does not question this. I can not support a viewpoint that is evil unless it is done in dark fantasy story like Cersei.

We must take back story. Players must now rewrite the Hildebrand story to change the direction and make it good again like it was when Maehiro was writer.

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I honestly can't tell if that's genuine or sarcasm. xD I had a good laugh nonetheless.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Honestly my biggest worry now is that future Hildebrand quests in later expansions could end up stuck behind a relic grind. Hopefully it just branches off and I can ignore it when the grind wears out its welcome.

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It will likely branch off and unlock another separate quest line the way a lot of content does (same as how MSQ will unlock a massive amount of + quests that you're not forced to do). You probably wont need to do the Relic to do the future Hildebrand quests and there will just be a new NPC with a + mark over their head if you choose not to do the relic. I believe the relic is just going to be Hildebrand adjacent / just an unlock requirement. Only Godbert really got mentioned since hes a master goldsmith. We might see Hildebrand since he's his son but I doubt he's directly related the way his father is.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

I hope hildy weapons are from the weapon design contest because those looked amazing.

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didn't the weapon design contest have 2 winners each ? like 1 serious 1 joke weapon ? cause if so that could actually work out quite well.

start the story, do a quest or two, get handed a set of knife and fork and wonder where you went wrong in life. do another 2-3 quests and let gerold+godberd reforge the shit out of it and hand you an awesome pair of daggers. now i'm not 100% sure how much all of these weapons lend themselves to getting different kind of "glow/aura upgrades" so that could be a problem, but as long as they can find "aura designs" that work well with that this would actually a pretty good idea on how to implement both sets of winners in a way that makes canonical sense.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Not sure whether they were being actually serious about this or not, but either way it's bad form to require such an absurdly long questline to be completed before we can do this expansion’s relic. I don’t even think Ivalice is as time consuming, and at least acts as a skill check on the playerbase.

Just why?

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Because yoshi is a troll. And hate the players. So it go like "you demanding more of this quest we was clear we don't want to do? Here have it but now all forced to play it". Same for islands thingy. Like they give each player a map that is bigger that any houses plot? But they say they can't just add more there? What it's at this point if not trolling.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

What are you talking about, this thread is the new battlefield, really.

Jokes apart, does not having an instanced area automatically make a relic better? Cause by that logic ARR and HW relics are the best to date, and yet they're not famous for being fun to do.

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I'm looking at the progression over the years. I've worked on each one, though I've only ever finished all of ShB and one HW. I see them learning from past series. It's still a grind, but it's not as painful as the last. They make it more accessible each time. I don't doubt there will be FATEs and raids involved, but they probably won't be a specific FATE or a savage raid. One might have to go through Bozja though. It seems like they want to keep that relevant for some time and not have it end up like Diadem.

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

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I think that's what i love the most about all of this : the meme :D