Party finder shenanigans. O9S. FC mate taught me Chaos some weeks back so hey let's actually try doing it weekly. I joined a "clear for one" and killed it in 5 pulls since some people kept messing up. Last week I pugged it for two hours. TWO. HOURS. People were so bad and I think out of like 100 pulls (or whatever it was) I was only responsible for maybe 2 of them due to fatigue.
Then this week I join a party and clear in one pull.
I... I was so happy. Only had one death in that one pull and it was a BLM who stood out of position slightly on tsunami donuts.
Edit: Forgot to mention the bad week was over the course of 3 different parties.
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12-11-2018, 05:45 PMMesarthim
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12-11-2018, 05:46 PMMetalSnakeXI1Diversion can only do so much if the tank can't keep their aggro up.Quote:
Originally Posted by xkazh
Even if u have diversion up,if the tank keeps losing aggro you'll get targeted soon even if you're not next on the aggro list
But yeah I do know the feeling I admit xD.Cuz on O11 Normal a few days ago Omega burned my ass with Mustard Bomb twice because the tank couldn't aggro him properly
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12-11-2018, 06:52 PMAdrenKaelPrecisely I mean doing nothing BUT chatting. Nothing wrong with chatting with your FC/Linkshell etc. But when you're all but AFK for over 3/4 of the dungeon it's annoying and disrespectful. I wonder how people would feel if the tank did that or the healer? The group wouldn't get very far would it? "Hang on a sec I gotta let my FC mate know I love his new outfit go ahead on without me for the next 15 minutes." "But you're the tank" "Meh, the healer can tank it"Quote:
Originally Posted by SineNomine
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12-11-2018, 07:18 PMSturmChurroWhen I go AFK, I just follow someone to pretend I'm playing. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrenKael
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12-11-2018, 07:20 PMJohnSpawnVFXWhich is an obvious sign you're not playing. Better to just ask them if they can wait for a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
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12-11-2018, 08:50 PMDreggit
What a weird timeout period. As most others. I also wait until the last minute to do a bunch of weeklies and choice things in the challenge log.
Well, this week, I did o12n and interestingly got a party full of mentors and 2 new players.
Now, when I am in a duty where 6/8 people are mentors, you'd expect, at the very least, some degree of competence. O12n isn't exactly the hardest duty either as most mechanics are fairly straight forward; especially after doing it once.
Somehow. The majority of the players did not know to stack on the female or to move away from the male as they spawn in. There was even 1 mentor that just stood inside Fs cross fire attack. Like why? I felt bad for the healers.
We did clear after 1 wipe but even phase 2 was weird. I took F as I normally do. But for whatever reason it seemed like myself and 1 other dps were at F and everyone else was at M. The split ended up being M 0% F 74% on Ms death. Thankfully, the healers were solid and were able to stay ahead of the raid wide damage -
12-11-2018, 10:17 PMKuukyo
Has anyone having a lot of trouble at Castrum Abania? I don't see that dungeon that hard, but the only reasons I never get into it are either I'm undergeared, or some teammates are new and/or undergeared. Nothing much to say at the first boss; the second boss is kinda struggling when you explain how the element circles work but your teammates still don't understand, and the final boss is noctorious when the healer doesn't know what they should be doing when time goes on.
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12-12-2018, 03:46 AMMetalSnakeXI1Besides a healer leaving us once and me and another lalafell saying "Give us some candy dad" to the tank xD(it was a weird day let me tell ya)........not really.Once you get the magic circles mechanic for the clown magitek soldier everything is smooth sailing from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuukyo
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12-12-2018, 03:52 AMMoroMurasakiDid Expert one time with a Highlander friend and a couple who's alts were Lalas. The number of "We will turn this party around Listen to your father!" style jokes was astounding.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetalSnakeXI1
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12-12-2018, 03:54 AMMetalSnakeXI1Now THAT is a party I'd love to be a part of.Having a party of 3 lalas is always an endless joy of memes for me xDQuote:
Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki
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12-12-2018, 03:56 AMChaoticCrimsonI will say that doing that last boss as a new/inexperienced healer can be pretty rough, especially when you have DPS that repeatedly stand in stupid. I now dread trying to use my WHM for Leveling Roulette bonuses because there's usually a 90% chance I end up at this dungeon. It's not super hard, but man do some people make you work. Having the ilvl synced down doesn't help either. Granted, I'll admit I'm not all that confident as a healer yet, so that's just me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuukyo
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12-12-2018, 06:55 AMTheMightyMollusk
My newest pet peeve: People who pull enemies out of ground AoEs. Whether I'm on ninja or summoner, at least 7 out of 10 times, nobody remembers the things they should stand in. And no, it's not because they're dodging something else. Even after being told that that's mine, people keep moving out of it. Then I stop bothering and someone else complains that I'm not using it!
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12-12-2018, 07:53 AMMixt
Weekly O11s.
Delta Cannon happens.
And the healers do nothing, the party gets petrified from not being healed up to full. Wipe.
Everyone is like "Wut?"
Facedesk.
Why is this a thing that happens? -
12-12-2018, 08:32 AMHeliantheae
Got World of Darkness today. The other tanks were both DRK and one had Grit on, so I figured he was tanking. We got to Angra Mainyu and he just stood there for a minute. No countdown or anything. Guess he didn't want to tank, I popped Shield and pulled and he was a couple of steps behind me and then he started grabbing hate. Aggro wars is my second biggest pet peeve in this game, so I let him have it. Next set of adds went smooth. Five-headed Dragon, again he just stood around. This time, someone else pulled. Another pet peeve of mine, but I can't blame them. So again I put on Shield and pulled. Again he was trying to grab hate. Again I let him have it, but the dragon was going all over the place. So I kept on Shield and provoked held the five headed Dragon the entire fight. He seemed to have got the hint, because he pulled Cerberus and Cloud of Darkness without standing around.
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12-12-2018, 08:58 AMAoshaMy static's Bard has mostly been hoping for a way to be self-sufficient with the piercing resist debuff. Something to put in place of a Heavy Shot when there's a need to reapply it. This would keep the Dragoon synergy going (since with a 'goon the Bard can just skip applying the piercing debuff and get more Heavy Shots in), but would stop Bard from being as DRG-reliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by HyoMinPark
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12-12-2018, 09:05 AMAosha
Went into a Susanoo ex group for Wondrous Tails. Main tank was a Paladin in Shield Oath. Off-tank was ...A Dark Knight in Grit? Just Grit? But no Darkside?
After having it pointed out for them a few times, we finally got one tank out of tank stance after sword dropper phase.
The Paladin, not the Dark Knight.
The Paladin swapped to Sword Oath and kept tanking. The Dark Knight stayed in pure Grit. Didn't do anything to try to take aggro, even during tank busters. Just Soul Eatering away in Grit.
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12-12-2018, 11:34 AMkupokage
Protip for healers in Arboretum HM:
If I'm (a DPS) clearly heading towards the lever in the last room, don't sprint just to pass me in order to pull it and we both end up interacting at the same time. You do realize the tank is dragging two rooms worth of mobs behind him/her yea? Maybe you should heal instead of pulling the lever. That's BList worthy. Soo annoying. -
12-12-2018, 11:57 AMBerteaux_BraumegainOh so THAT'S why I keep seeing the Gradual Petrification status disappear right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mixt
I was wondering what that was about. -
12-12-2018, 12:14 PMSeddrinth
Weekly normal alphascape. DPS dies 6 times, probably did less damage than the healers and tanks. Rolls 98 and wins the loot.
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12-12-2018, 12:26 PMMesarthimIf that's all it takes for you to BL someone then clearly something else is afoot. I could argue that the healer should be the one to pull the lever (spoiler, I've tanked and healed the dungeon a lot) and the dps should do what they do best, dps. If one of the dps was lousy that'd be another thing. Technically if the tank is still alive the healer hasn't failed at their job.Quote:
Originally Posted by kupokage
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12-12-2018, 12:39 PMMetalSnakeXI1Me as a ninja in a nutshell......that Duton gets wasted so many timesQuote:
Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk
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12-12-2018, 12:39 PMKhorchiLong time reader, first time poster. Hopefully you enjoy these few
So although I have only been a part of the game for the last few months, I have relatively enjoyed the game about 99% of the time.
Things haven't been as great in the last few weeks though. Here are the 3 stories that I have from the last 14 days alone.
1. Lvl 70 RDM in o9. (2 weeks ago)
I really like the o9 fight. Its not too complicated once you get it down.
The bad thing about this fight however was the tanks who were on my server.
Run is going smoothly up until the point where soft enrage starts. At this point, somehow (I still don't know fully), the AST dies. In trying to rez the AST, the WHM dies. At this point, AoE hits and half the party wipes. Its just me and both tanks (thank you vercure).
The Main Tank takes a tankbuster and dies at the same time I rez the AST with swiftcast.
I then make the decision to heal the Off Tank. I'm hoping that the AST tries to LB3... but I realise we are about 98% of the way through the 3rd LB bar. The Off Tank then dies because he used Living Dead and, me being a lowly RDM, can't heal him back to full health.
The AST then takes the aggro and dies within 3 seconds, but luckily, they have already rezzed the WHM. As I get the aggro, we hit LB3 and the WHM uses it. We all get up, we save the run and clear it after that.
The tanks then thank the WHM for rezzing the party. The WHM then thanks me for somehow staying alive and begin the process of saving the run. The tanks then ATTACK ME for not healing them fast enough and not rezzing them first.
Normally I would be venting my frustration at them but I had to answer the front door. I came back probably 45 secs later to see that the tanks AND the AST were both attacking me with the WHM defending me and saying that if it wasn't for me, we would have wiped and repeated the last 10 mins. The tanks then argue that it would have been better to wipe. I am dumbfounded at the level of idiocy at the tanks where I just ask "Am I being blamed and attacked for saving the run?", at which point the torrent of abuse rode my way. I'm not going to repeat what they said in chat, but I wouldn't be surprised if they received some form of warning from the people who reported them. These people are on my server and makes me VERY VERY GLAD that I'll be moving when the Crystal comes around.
2. Lvl 70 RDM in o11. (last week)
About 3 days and a name change later, I felt more comfortable doing weekly content as "not everyone is an idiot". Decide to go with my mentor (MNK) into o11.
It seemed as though that NO ONE outside of myself, my mentor and the off tank had ANY IDEA how to do o11, but everyone had completed it. In fact, almost everyone had at least 2 or 3 pieces of Alphascape gear.
I have never rage quit a fight before this. It's not that we wiped a few times. We wiped SEVEN TIMES.
I'll start with saying that the Main Tank decided to tank Omega in the corner... THE CORNER of the arena. Off tank wasn't having that and stole the aggro and tanked him properly.
We wiped 3 times during the "Force Quit" phase with the Level Checker because people would talk into the blue areas. Even with LB3, we only got past that stage twice.
We wiped twice during the OPENING starboard/larboard thanks to the healers NOT MOVING during them. It felt like these people were intentionally trying to wipe the party into a rage quit.
After the sixth wipe, the tank AND my mentor explained very clearly and very nicely, what to do in every single move of the fight. 4 and a half mins later, another wipe. The tank quit whilst muttering "Bunch of noobs" as he left.
Although I don't condone that sort of behaviour, I could not disagree.
3. Lvl 60 WHM in Dzemael Darkhold (today)
Now I admit that I am a bit of a scrub when it comes to other classes outside of RDM and SAM. I like having a rotation but I also like the chaos that comes with being the sole responsible person to keep the party alive.
I had only JUST levelled up my WHM to 60. I put the glamour on and felt pretty proud and confident enough so I queue myself up and dive into a levelling roulette.
I start every single fight as a WHM saying to everyone that I'm still getting used to the abilities of the WHM and for everyone to please be patient if I overheal. This is the god honest truth because although I'm confident, if I go into somewhere that I've only cleared as a DPS, I'm nervous to do it as a Healer.
So before I have the chance to finish typing out my sentence about "i'm a scrub, please tolerate me", the tank just bolts. No Protect. Mega pulls everything. His health bar is see-sawing between high four figures and single digits even with me giving him regen and Cure II spam. The tank then tells me to use Medica II... in a level 46 dungeon. I have to kindly point out to him that you get Medica II at 50, so he tells me to keep up the regen instead... I know how to WHM. I'm not level 1.
At this stage, I'm very annoyed because the tank is still dying faster than a cockroach underneath a can of bug spray. I think 'it's a lvling dungeon, I don't care'.
At the point of the 2nd room just before the first boss, the tank then calls me out for overhealing. I get pissed off, so I decide to check his gear.
I then notice he has a Lvl 31 sword and a Lvl 40 shield. Almost everything else was between 27 and 37, mainly the lower end. I don't call him out for it, but I do say "so you'd rather me underheal you?" essentially trying to backhandedly tell him "I'm the reason you are still alive". He then tells me to focus on my DPS... AS A FREAKING WHM!
Now the worst thing to do would have been to let him die and let us wipe. But that is not who I am. I like to heal and get things done. So even though the tank doesn't know that the boss needs to be next to the purple crystals for us to damage it, we clear first boss.
Its only at this point, the tank reveals that this is his 1ST TIME tanking this dungeon. I get it, its the 1st time me healing this dungeon, let's just get through it!
We then enter the next area and I get a little tested as the tank pulls almost everything before the cave and then dies because he alt+tabbed out of the game to check on something. As much as I did the best I could to keep him alive, AoEs got the best of him. He apologised for that, so i'll give that to him. We wipe but it is to be expected at that stage. I shrug my shoulders and continue with the dungeon.
We get back to that stage, clear that area and make light work of the boss. The Lancer achieves level 62 and everyone sends congrats.
Wait... what?
Yes. I had to double take. A LEVEL 62 LANCER. The tank points it out to the Lancer who says "oh forgot to put on my soul stone". At this point I can hear the Red Mage screaming for this dungeon to end.
At the beginning of the 3rd area, I accidently press the wrong button on my controller and give the Tank regen before he pulls. I immediately apologise for it in the chat and heal myself as well as the tank.
The tank then tells me (a good minute and a half after I've apologised) "Don't regen before pull/before I gain threat". Now I would've been ok with him telling me this... If I hadn't already apologised for it. The RDM then goes into bat for me and says "If you get the aggro back before the healer gets full aggro, who cares? If you know how to keep the aggro and he's apologised for it then why does it matter?" The tank replies, "it does matter. I'd rather run up to a group and flash instead of chasing them down."
I already apologised... Sorry for making your work 4 seconds harder for you. GAH!
The rest of the dungeon was pretty much a breeze except for the main boss where the tank asks the Lancer to LB. The Lancer took about a minute to LB fully because (quote) "mb I was on the phone".
I could not rage quit that dungeon fast enough.
Sorry if you read the entire trilogy. That felt good to get out. -
12-12-2018, 12:45 PMMesarthim
You can edit your post to bypass the forum's pointless character limitation.
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12-12-2018, 01:01 PMKhorchiThanks :). Sorry, needed to get it all out and didn't know you could do that. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mesarthim
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12-12-2018, 01:20 PMMetalSnakeXI1Oh wow....I legit didn't know that happens cuz the healers top our health everytime and when I get a bad party they usually wipe at level checker of all things so I never died to Delta Cannon petrification xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Mixt
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12-12-2018, 01:34 PMSturmChurroDo people actually harass others if they are on the same server? I have never actually blacklisted someone, etc. if there is a bunch of toxicity going on in the party chat I never hear from them again once I'm out. Is it necessary for name changes/server transfers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Khorchi
Lol! You don't have to chase them down you can just throw your shield at them! :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Khorchi
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12-12-2018, 02:52 PMKhorchiHaha thank you :).Quote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
I haven't experienced server harassment before or since so I don't think its prevalent. But what they said to me and the WHM was enough for a blacklist, several screenshots and an email for reporting.
My mentors and I already made up their mind that we were going to server transfer once Crystal comes up anyway. I've found that my server is slowly becoming more toxic and I'd rather move to a server that a lot of my friends are going to be on/already on anyway. :) -
12-12-2018, 03:01 PMYurenaiOh, you mean Ice Mage role-players =) They don't do much damage but the magic sure is pretty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
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12-12-2018, 05:55 PMMetalSnakeXI1The only sort of "harassment"(If I can even call that) I dealt with within the server I'm in was some guy on a linkshell I joined in who kept trashing me cuz I like Heavensward more than ARR and SB......cuz somehow having a preference means you hate the other ?I don't get itQuote:
Originally Posted by Khorchi
Anywho most cases of harassments for me usually comes from other servers,mostly from the "hardcore raiding" servers.
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12-12-2018, 10:42 PMDreggit
In had to leave a Thordan Ex farm last bight due to connection issues. I didn't want to cost them their farm as the tank when I'm seeing the fight progress every ten seconds. I felt bad but they were okay with it after I explained it. I dont even need the bird, i just want the card ;_;
In a triple triad update;
15 cards remain
5 dungeon cards
5 trial cards
3 Heaven on High cards
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12-13-2018, 07:23 AMUrsa_VonfiebrydThere's a lot of unseen bleed/vuln derp going on for that last boss. Its why I hate healing it. The tethers are annoying too. He does them right after he nails the tank with one or both and if you're timing is bad or yours doesnt get killed fast enough (because everyone is targeting the big ad with the accelerant) it grabs you and you cant do anything. So yeah. Its crappy for healers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuukyo
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12-13-2018, 01:53 PMDriskusI've both tanked and healed that dungeon numerous times and never seen a tank take enough damage to require much of anything other than OGCD heals to keep them up. If they're taking that much damage they're doing something horribly wrong. Also the DPS almost never go for the lever when I'm in there, so I end up doing it anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by kupokage
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12-13-2018, 01:58 PMBerteaux_BraumegainI hate the low drop rates on cards. I know RNG is necessary to keep the game going longer or whatever, but I've killed Penthesilea 18 times in Eureka and haven't gotten it once. Made worse by the fact that she's low priority compared to pretty much every other NM and her mobs aren't soloable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreggit
At least let me trade her flames for the card when I get a certain number. -
12-13-2018, 10:56 PMRymm
Healed an Expert Roulette yesterday (the Burn.) The run was quick and clean and I've no complaints about it. However the tank emoted "rubbing my tummy" at the end of the run, which was a new experience for me. :confused:
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12-14-2018, 12:01 AMDreggitWhen it comes to NPCs drop rates. I do not mind low drop rates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain
However, on duties, I do. To do 1 run for a card can be quite a large time commitment. Dungeons can take upwards of 30-35minutes (hopefully not though) for 1 chance at a card where as you can likely play an NPC about 45-65 times in that time if you have a really refined strategy. -
12-14-2018, 01:02 AMChaoticCrimsonIf I saw that emote it'd trigger my fight or flight instinct, and no I don't mean the PLD ability. O_OQuote:
Originally Posted by Rymm
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12-14-2018, 02:05 AMMoomba33I'm hoping they add her card to a npc like they did with the Louhi card last patch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain
I'm just missing her and Hiruko from Heaven on High gold sacks now. -
12-14-2018, 03:23 AMDreggitCongrats btw. Thordan yet still eludes me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moomba33
Got to love the HoH cards. RNG on RNG IS great.
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12-14-2018, 03:42 AMMoomba33Thanks. The Thordan card seems to have in incredibly low drop rate, was over 70 runs before I got mine. Hopefully the RNG will smile on you soon!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreggit
Yuuuup. I haven't tried in awhile since my last solo HoH run was killed by a DC.
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12-14-2018, 01:42 PMBerteaux_BraumegainYeah, I had more fun grinding that NPC in the Doman Enclave for Hien's card than I did running Qarn Hard a million times to get the mummy card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreggit