Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

As a Cat person....yes :3
And you know if you were a Lupin, it might be worse XD

I bet alot of Good Boy and Nose Boops would ensue

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Fair enough!

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Originally Posted by ChocoPuni

I disagree. If anything, Hrothgar should be removed entirely.

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Nahh
Game should have a non human looking option for a playable race

Remove rabbits
Acquire hats and fluffy females.

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Originally Posted by ChocoPuni

I disagree. If anything, Hrothgar should be removed entirely.

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If either race were to be removed, it should be Viera. They really bring nothing new to the game that we don't already have in some other form. Luckily that's never going to be on the table.

This whole thread can be summarized with "I don't want to be the furry, I want to HUG the furry."

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Originally Posted by FawkesWyznfarr

This whole thread can be summarized with "I don't want to be the furry, I want to HUG the furry."

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If we get good looking, tough and sexy Hrothgar Females....Im buying that Fantasia and Im making my Fursona in a heartbeat.

I just hope, if they get added, we will have a bald option. It was said before in this thread about Khajiit in ESO having unique "mane" versions of hair, but I have grown so attached to the sleek panther lady look over the years.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

I just hope, if they get added, we will have a bald option. It was said before in this thread about Khajiit in ESO having unique "mane" versions of hair, but I have grown so attached to the sleek panther lady look over the years.

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Assuming they're based off the same felines as the males (lion, lynx, coeurl, actual Ronso) it'd be safe to say face 1 could be bald. To be frank I would've liked a bald option for males too, sometimes less is more

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Originally Posted by Allegor

sometimes less is more

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Amen to that

Bunny boys would look so awesome, I can totally get behind that! I don't normally play any male character but I admit to starting a completely new character to play as Hrothgar, I can't imagine them female but I bet they would look great with a female variant.

Male viera are just Elezens with rabbit ears what do you mean they'll be awesome?

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Originally Posted by FawkesWyznfarr

Male viera are just Elezens with rabbit ears what do you mean they'll be awesome?

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every race is basically human with something special. after all you are basically playing just a human with scales :rolleyes:
elezen with bunny ears done right can be awesome - yes! just like female viera are female elezen done right ;) (even with all their restrictions they are still more popular than female elezen)

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Originally Posted by Fukuro

every race is basically human with with something special. after all you are basically playing just a human with scales :rolleyes:
elezen with bunny ears done right can be awesome - yes! just like female viera are female elezen done right ;) (even with all their restrictions they are still more popular than female elezen)

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I literally picked Viera because I can't stand Elezen's tiny head, but really wanted to be a tall elf.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

I just hope, if they get added, we will have a bald option. It was said before in this thread about Khajiit in ESO having unique "mane" versions of hair, but I have grown so attached to the sleek panther lady look over the years.

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Would be nice to have options with hairstyles ( bald etc ) like they do in eso with Khajiit, just really hope they don't link hairstyle and face together. Like with Male Hrothgar.

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Originally Posted by White_Wolf_X

Would be nice to have options with hairstyles ( bald etc ) like they do in eso with Khajiit, just really hope they don't link hairstyle and face together. Like with Male Hrothgar.

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I think it'd be pretty unfair if they didn't.

Lady lions please!!! I would love for Square to give us fierce ladies much like WoW tried with the lady Worgen. Maybe if we got them, we'd get more customization options cause heaven forbid Square not give proper hair and face customization to the ladies lol

Can we get female lupin instead? :)

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Originally Posted by Kazwako

Bunny boys would look so awesome, I can totally get behind that! I don't normally play any male character but I admit to starting a completely new character to play as Hrothgar, I can't imagine them female but I bet they would look great with a female variant.

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Look at female Ronso from FFX with maybe a little finessing. I think the females would look really nice, lioness vibes.

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Originally Posted by HollyJollyPaca

Lady lions please!!! I would love for Square to give us fierce ladies much like WoW tried with the lady Worgen. Maybe if we got them, we'd get more customization options cause heaven forbid Square not give proper hair and face customization to the ladies lol

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You should know firsthand that they absolutely have no qualms about releasing a limited race, even if they are ladies. :p

I really, really wanna see femhroth in Zadnor. Even as a statue. Just a little tease of what they have in mind for how they would be modeled. I don’t think they will because they know we’d go feral but it’s so weird to have the story revolve around Hrothgar homeland and the queen and see nothing but a highly stylized mosaic of the females.

I really just hope its not gonna be a ''human female with animal ears'' . It would only be cool if it was actually true to the race.

Gonna shamelessly quote myself just to once again express how much I am against waifufication. We know how fond they are with the 'monster male, sexy/cute human lady' tropes, even more so than in the west.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

What I hope we get

https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets...jpg?1503494004
https://66.media.tumblr.com/852ae403...a4218cb1f8.png

What I dread we may end up getting

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...e=image%2Fjpeg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/z1brXUif0fc/maxresdefault.jpg

While female Ronso have been shown, and male Hrothgar are very clearly anthropomorphic lions, rather than humans with feline features like Miqo, I still very much dread Hrothgals may be waifufied to appeal to a broader audience.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Gonna shamelessly quote myself just to once again express how much I am against waifufication. We know how fond they are with the 'monster male, sexy/cute human lady' tropes, even more so than in the west.

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If remember correctly, they threw out a pretty beastly looking face design for male hroth because it was “too similar to miqote” so I think even if they were to “waifu” them I don’t think they’d be quite that bad, since they may as well be miqos at that point, on that very bottom pic. Especially since they can’t do digitigrade feet.

If I had to guess, I think they’ll use a slightly upscaled highlander body with a beastly head, if they repurpose models again. Really love the look of the top two here.

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Originally Posted by BunniEclair

If remember correctly, they threw out a pretty beastly looking face design for male hroth because it was “too similar to miqote” so I think even if they were to “waifu” them I don’t think they’d be quite that bad, since they may as well be miqos at that point, on that very bottom pic. Especially since they can’t do digitigrade feet.

If I had to guess, I think they’ll use a slightly upscaled highlander body with a beastly head, if they repurpose models again. Really love the look of the top two here.

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The whole thing kind of reminds me of the release of the Alpha Female Worgen build. It was just as beastly as the male, but sleeker/smaller. People threw a fit about it both being too feminine and not feminine enough. They ended up cobbling together a really horrible model (in 4 months) and it took Blizzard 8 or so years to give us that original concept.

I guess having lived through that is why I have such a violent, kneejerk reaction to people who want a f hrothgar to be "cute and feminine cat waifu". To quote Blizzard on this, "You think you want it, but you don't."

I also agree, the top two examples in Allegor's post are divine (also I spy those ESO Khajiit face markings and costumes, so I am very biased in liking them.)

Oof yeah, I remember that, they went from perfectly fine wolf ladies to angry chihuahuas with make up, then back to proper wolf ladies, albeit a bit more...furryesque lol (which fits the game's cartoony style so I ain't complaining there)

https://i.imgur.com/fF8Vf.jpg
https://i.redd.it/550cbgqm40w11.png

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Oof yeah, I remember that, they went from perfectly fine wolf ladies to angry chihuahuas with make up, then back to proper wolf ladies, albeit a bit more...furryesque lol (which fits the game's cartoony style so I ain't complaining there)

https://i.imgur.com/fF8Vf.jpg
https://i.redd.it/550cbgqm40w11.png

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To be fair, some of the new face markings really sleek out the face more than others. It's still worlds better than that.. abomination..

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Gonna shamelessly quote myself just to once again express how much I am against waifufication. We know how fond they are with the 'monster male, sexy/cute human lady' tropes, even more so than in the west.

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Gonna give this an unneeded bump, because I 100% share this fear.

TBH my concern is that they’ll just stick a lion head on a Femroe body and call it a day. Hrothgar males dodge this by their hunched stance and fantastic emotes to play up the big wild cat angle, but Bozja’s story has hinted that female Hrothgar have the big cat features on their heads but the artistic take wasn’t too far from Femroe otherwise.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fi...hildr_wall.png

Note the Femroe on the right verses the rest being confirmed Hrothgar women.

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Originally Posted by BunniEclair

You should know firsthand that they absolutely have no qualms about releasing a limited race, even if they are ladies. :p

I really, really wanna see femhroth in Zadnor. Even as a statue. Just a little tease of what they have in mind for how they would be modeled. I don’t think they will because they know we’d go feral but it’s so weird to have the story revolve around Hrothgar homeland and the queen and see nothing but a highly stylized mosaic of the females.

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LOL I was thinking more of maybe they'd separate faces from hair finally if they released lady hroths. Maybe. As you said, first hand experience XD

Maybe....maybe the artwork is some teasing to what could come? High hopes, I have too much of it.

I hope they do waifu female hrothgar to some degree. I would like to see them slightly smaller and less bulky than the males. Keep the same beastly appearance but more feminine, elegance and beauty. I don't want to play a beast race where the females look similar to males.

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Originally Posted by MorionQ

TBH my concern is that they’ll just stick a lion head on a Femroe body and call it a day. Hrothgar males dodge this by their hunched stance and fantastic emotes to play up the big wild cat angle, but Bozja’s story has hinted that female Hrothgar have the big cat features on their heads but the artistic take wasn’t too far from Femroe otherwise.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fi...hildr_wall.png

Note the Femroe on the right verses the rest being confirmed Hrothgar women.

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I'd rather they didn't go with the hunched stance for either, to be honest. Playing an Undead on WoW for 15 years drove me insane with how much it ruined glamours.

I could see the females not having a hunch. Less body mass would allow for less of a need to, especially if they have less muscle than male hrothgar (who are walking brutes a bit).

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

male hrothgar (who are walking brutes a bit).

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I love their wrestler physique~

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

I'd rather they didn't go with the hunched stance for either, to be honest. Playing an Undead on WoW for 15 years drove me insane with how much it ruined glamours.

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Same, I hope they don’t hunch. I’d much rather them be regal and powerful lionesses who stand tall!

I hope they are "waifu-ified" just for the amount of rage threads that would result from it.

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

I hope they are "waifu-ified" just for the amount of rage threads that would result from it.

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This but like, a cat, then.

https://i.imgur.com/RAI2Wl.jpg

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

I hope they are "waifu-ified" just for the amount of rage threads that would result from it.

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Doubt it, it may be more of a "thanks, I hate it, but whatever" reaction. If it were the Viera though...

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

I could see the females not having a hunch. Less body mass would allow for less of a need to, especially if they have less muscle than male hrothgar (who are walking brutes a bit).

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You say that, but don't male Trolls in WoW have a hunch, and they are kind of lanky?

After clearing DRS to let off some steam. Seeing the lioness statues over and over again, wipe after wipe. Booping their snoots giving an INSANE buff:

https://i.imgur.com/UfcIE1t.png

I can only see and want female hrothgar to be in resemblance to the statue:
1. Unique animal head that is(and should be) a feature to the Hrothgar as a whole. You can give them a flatter face but it should be an option. Ronso/Khimari face on males is the widest but flattest face option. Heck, the illustration at the japan fanfest had an even flatter face to advertise the "beastly" race. Similar color scheme and theorized face sculpture to the females on the 2nd mural in a southern front CS.

https://i.imgur.com/a6hQuYH.jpg

2. Legit built physique. Give that creative freedom towards designing a physically built female character or push them into the realm of male hyper masculinity. And you'll have two routes, either the community lambasts it(TLOU 2) or it is tinkered with to still retain some element of "elegance" or significant hourglass form with the upper body still smaller than their hip and leg width. Yes, butch ladies sprouting up in anime are still safe and limiting designs for a strong female character. Even fantastic arts like this, which I adore(and good counter to the poor execution of Elezen and/or Roegadyn) are still a bit too safe to my liking in being on the same level or personality as Male Hrothgar:

https://i.imgur.com/s5H3GhT.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/cRwg13l.jpg?1

And any exception(fat, aging or non hourglass) would write those characters as a minor side character or dangerous villainess.

Looking at those muscle clad forearms and subtle definition of the Lioness statue just oozes stylistic potential for female hrothgar as battle ready queens or hearty buddies alongside their male counterparts. But the lackluster excuse of "we already tried that with female roegadyn" is acting in bad faith or arrogant dismissal of its execution. Is it an issue with how SE handles female race models in general? Absolutely. Can it be fixed with a graphical engine tune up for character creator? I think so which is why I don't think we'll see them or male viera in 6.0.

Hunch wise, I've been liking the visual lore building of Hrothgar with that hunch. Defending against multiple threats or living in the harshest of regional conditions have morphed them to keep a center of gravity and wide stance on near any terrain. It makes them drawing their axe significantly more seamless. If females have to have no hunch, I won't complain especially if we have poses that can give them some exaggerated slouches/hunches.

3. This continues on from 2 but their emotes should also play alongside or build up on the goofy and macho gestures of the males.

come on time to revive this thread, make sure they give us our female hrothgar is 7.0.

FEMALE HROTHGAR confirmed!!! we just need to be a bit more patient!!!