Post Your Healing Horror Stories.

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Originally Posted by PArcher

I find tanking easier than healing, especially after the patch. You may need a *little* more gear as a tank in certain things (Titan HM is the big one), but outside of Coil and EX Primals, Full DL and Relic is enough for just about everything (even Ultima...which, incidentally, requires more gear as a Healer...)

WAR just need to use a little Overpower spam (Unchained + Berserk + Overpower spam = never losing aggro) in the beginning of a trash pull, and maybe throwing BB at a secondary target occasionally or Flash or Overpower; PLD Flash spam and the RoH at a secondary or Flash more.
For bosses...unless the DPS or Heals are REALLY overgeared, they just need to use their aggro combo (with Storm's Path occasionally for WAR) and they're gold.

The only time its really "harder" to tank is when you have AoE-happy DPS, or heals overhealing too much or using AoE heals too much.

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While it is true that healing is a bit harder thanks to the fact that you need to control 8 lives instead of 2 (which translates to the entire party instead of just you and the enemy), being a tank requires that you know the instance at hand and can lead the party while performing necessary maneuvers in the process. For example, in Garuda HM as a tank you need to make sure Garuda doesn't slipstream inside during the Calm phase. Generally, healing is all about spamming cure magics and not much else. What I'm saying is, healing is harder, but doesn't really tax your brain

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Originally Posted by Raestloz

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Have you solo-healed Titan HM yet in a PUG? Or even just healed Ultima in a PUG with non-dodging DPS...there's a reason I'm tanking that fight and not healing it anymore

And no, tanks don't have to know the instance any more than DPS or heals do. A tank can be perfect, but if a Heal or DPS pulls extra mobs because they don't know a trigger or see the coming mob, is it really the tank's fault? Haukke N is a good one where you see DPS/Heals pulling things and causing wipes a LOT. I've also seen a lot more wipes caused by heals who don't know a dungeon than tanks who don't.

Also, for Garuda HM...people should NOT be standing near Garuda during a sisters phase at all...its their fault if they get stunned at those times. You see where she spawns and where she's going, and there's plenty of room to avoid her attacks. The only thing tanks really need to know with that fight is where to pull her during movement phases.

Ok... new low level story.

I level WHM to 50 first and got a relic and now I'm leveling black mage because.. you know... mage...

So on my BLM I put PHYSICK in the same spot I used to have Cure I on my keyboard, and I join a duty finder. And old habits die hard... if someone gets to half health I instinctively heal them. I can't help it. I guess I could take the power off my keyboard but I've been hitting that key and healing for so long....

So anyways, at the end of the SUCCESFUL duty (did I mention SUCCESSFUL with no wipes and everything bad died in good time) the WHM mage curses me out and yells at me in ALL CAPS saying that I need to stop healing and that healing is his job.

So I guess I should've just let people die? I mean if everygthing is healed I have no problems with healers doing some DPS, so if people are about to die shouldn't the DPS do some heals? (In four person instances, I know Primal fights are different) I sometimes hate the duty finder....

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Originally Posted by Zendy

And old habits die hard... if someone gets to half health I instinctively heal them.

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I can relate so much to it, when I'm on dps classes I always have to force myself not to heal and dps instead <.< I have the full bars crisis.

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Originally Posted by Zendy

So anyways, at the end of the SUCCESFUL duty (did I mention SUCCESSFUL with no wipes and everything bad died in good time) the WHM mage curses me out and yells at me in ALL CAPS saying that I need to stop healing and that healing is his job.

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Ouch thats a bit harsh of the whm =/ did you say anything back? i can relate though when i was my Arcanist i always ended up healing party members too, the healer always leaves them to super low hp before they heal them >..< i can understand that they were just trying to save mp though and trying not to waste their heals. but still that was a bit of an over reaction from your whm =/

Fun healing story here. Or horrifying, rather, and I wasn't even a healer role.

I hit 44 with SMN and queued up for Darkhold. The PLD was not doing a good job tanking and before we even hit the first boss the WHM left. The PLD keeps going and I, having already sat through the queue twice because the first party all left at the first pull, stuck with it. I end up tanking a group of four mobs just spamming Physick on myself (Ifrit was out and didn't have time to switch to Titan even with Swiftcast). Then we go into the first boss and I'm pulling triple duty - DPS the boss and adds, keep the party alive, and tank the 2nd add that Titan can't hold. The fight lasts 10 minutes with the PLD and DPS only fighting the boss, but we pull through.

Shortly after a SCH joined, but because the PLD refused to use Flash, I'm still using Titan and doing heals/DPS. We did manage to win with less than 10 minutes on the clock, purely because the SCH and I healed the PLD through every single attack because he wouldn't dodge.

CT can be such a joy sometimes... I already had really cool CT pug runs and then again... there are runs like this:

At the first room of CT one of our tanks just rushed in and aggroed the whole room -.- We healers couldn't react fast enough to prevent him from dying. So I ressed him up. In the meantime our other tank had taken the aggro but he kept the lizard mob positioned in a way so that everyone got hit by its aoe...then he kept standing in the purple stuff...it was complete chaos and eventually everyone wiped. After that the first tank kept insulting us healers in alliance chat, saying how useless we were etc...x.x

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Originally Posted by PArcher

Have you solo-healed Titan HM yet in a PUG? Or even just healed Ultima in a PUG with non-dodging DPS...there's a reason I'm tanking that fight and not healing it anymore

And no, tanks don't have to know the instance any more than DPS or heals do. A tank can be perfect, but if a Heal or DPS pulls extra mobs because they don't know a trigger or see the coming mob, is it really the tank's fault? Haukke N is a good one where you see DPS/Heals pulling things and causing wipes a LOT. I've also seen a lot more wipes caused by heals who don't know a dungeon than tanks who don't.

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Hmmm. I suppose you're right. Tanking indeed becomes easier once you know what to do, but healing's weight is always the same, and with the latest contents damage is guaranteed, so healing is always important. And hard.

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Originally Posted by Chaori

CT can be such a joy sometimes... I already had really cool CT pug runs and then again... there are runs like this

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It seems to me most of the CT runs are ugly, especially if you DF even your own group. That's what happens when you put 24 strangers together and ask them to cooperate :/ Never seen such a high level of stupid and jerky at the same time.

Yesterday I ended up in a ridicolous one. Had worse as far as wipes go but this was mostly...ridicolous. Someone always went to attack bosses right away, without asking if groups were ready or waiting for people to be buffed (since everybody was dying all the time in stupid ways, even protect had to be casted at every battle) or hardly for everybody to reach the room and not be locked out. Adds not dealt with at all most of the time, or dragged on the healers, aggro all over the table and people spread all over the rooms instead of staying in groups, bosses turned towards people...and what made it so bad was that the ones causing the wipes were complaining the run was going too slow, and when someone complained about what was being done wrong was laughed at. It was like being in maternal school. CT went now from fun to wth <.<

Omg... I had the worst CT group yesterday, worse part is it was my first time in CT. So we got Alliance A,B,C; I'm in A party with a friend from my FC, so he's tanking, while I'm a Bard. So Right after we get in, you can see what's going on. So our group isn't told anything, so we just follow everyone. B, seems to be organized in some way, but C... ooh dear. So we get to the first part and instead of waiting for the people left behind in the beginning, C then goes right ahead and start attacking, more than half the raid is stuck on the other side of the wall, including my friend. So I try my best to stick it out, but I get killed because no one said anything, just attacked. C keeps getting killed, and B seemed to know what to do So I was Rezzed and kept helping. Soon the part was over and the wall comes down and we continue our way, then we go to the bone dragon... Once again... aggro from C, B goes in and tries to be organized, we are just trying to pull though. Soon loads of people start wiping and lots of healers died because the C moves aggros and twice I got killed by AOEs. I finally give up and just go and rez myself to the other side of the wall and join the others. You can start seeing lots of party members start leaving and insults start going around from other groups and C is just gone, no more party members. So we just raged and quit right then and there.

So next time we are def going with our FC, at least that would make thigns a bit easier.