Why do casual players seem entitled to cosmetic items added in game?

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Originally Posted by Aidorouge

Depending on who you ask though, Field Operations are "midcore" content, and as someone who peeked into Eureka after unlocking it, I could tell it was beyond me and skipped it.

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Good thing I'm not asking anyone then. They are easily casual content.

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Originally Posted by Aidorouge

Depending on who you ask though, Field Operations are "midcore" content, and as someone who peeked into Eureka after unlocking it, I could tell it was beyond me and skipped it.

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Eureka is basically wandering trash mobs and FATEs. Mechanically, it's the same as ye olde overworld map, except elemental affinities matter and different kinds of trash aggro on different kinds of mechanics -- which, if anything, makes Eureka more Final Fantasy-like than MSQ combat.

That's as casual as casual can be short of removing combat entirely. The one bit that isn't is an optional raid that unlocks after the main story concludes, and the process has you click through like three or four, "So, you do understand that this raid is challenging, yes?" dialogs.

What did you actually see in your "peek" that you think is beyond you?

Yeah, Eureka/Bozja are definitely casual content. It doesn't really require you to understand your job or game mechanics in any real depth and there's no prep, organisation or co-ordination required. It does require a bit of time to get through the zones but that's kind of the point. You aren't supposed to finish them in a day.

The CEs and instances in Bozja are roughly alliance raid difficulty, so you might die a few times at those depending how you generally do with that kind of content but you just get a raise from someone and it's no big deal.

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Originally Posted by Collin_Sky

Ain't it the truth. I know more hardcore raiders who have completed casual content like Island Sanctuary than casual players who have even thought about entering an extreme in its current expansion.
Hardcore players overwhelmingly do any and all content the devs give them and generally appreciate all aspects of the game more.

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I'm not sure if that's the case or not, but the one aspect of the game they clearly do not appreciate are the players.

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

I'm not sure if that's the case or not, but the one aspect of the game they clearly do not appreciate are the players.

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Hardcore players are a binary. They either log in 30 seconds before raid, expect someone in their static to give them food and pots, say "see you next week" and then log out before even leaving the instance, or they have 30k+ achievement points. There is no in between.

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

Hardcore players are a binary. They either log in 30 seconds before raid, expect someone in their static to give them food and pots, say "see you next week" and then log out before even leaving the instance, or they have 30k+ achievement points. There is no in between.

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Yes, and I shouldn't make sweeping statements suggesting they are all the same, apologies. While I frequently disagree with you in detail, you argue your points well and in good faith.

Contrast that with this thread which is clearly created to invite a subset of hardcore players to unload their tired, predictable insults on the bulk of the playerbase.

If any, I personally see Field Operation as "Casual content but with potential to be midcore'ish". They're relatively easy to 'clear' down to the last quest, but that's where the casual line starts to blurr into: you're certainly not required to gear up your elemental+2, getting physeos weapon stats roll, optimizing LAs setups, farming fragments to be sold to make bazillion gil, grinding the 3 rays, etc.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

If any, I personally see Field Operation as "Casual content but with potential to be midcore'ish". They're relatively easy to 'clear' down to the last quest, but that's where the casual line starts to blurr into: you're certainly not required to gear up your elemental+2, getting physeos weapon stats roll, optimizing LAs setups, farming fragments to be sold to make bazillion gil, grinding the 3 rays, etc.

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To be fair parsing BA by getting someone to heal-slut you while you chain DE which isn’t really within the purview of what you’d really consider “eureka” itself

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

I'm not sure if that's the case or not, but the one aspect of the game they clearly do not appreciate are the players.

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Sure don't.

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Originally Posted by NamiRocket

The term is vocal minority. There is no majority here, just the loudest cross section of players, which is a definite minority within the community. It's not vocal majority. That's not a thing people say.

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No, no. The term I used is vocal majority it's fine if you disagree but you don't get to dictate what my point is, it is my point, and I am making it. I have seen the term used a fair amount, just because NamiRocket doesn't use the term doesn't mean nobody does, every, anywhere, at all.