New Jobs Gated Behind Completion of 2.0 Story?

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Originally Posted by Bluevann

Most of new players (including my friend, who I have mentioned seveal times in this thread) have pre-ordered the bundle. They're not going to get it till June.

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They have enough time to get there. If they pre-ordered you should be able to do early access with them and help them level. Unless you don't care about your friends. as much as you preech

I think they may be setting themselves up for an exclusive mature community.

Harken back to FF11, the expansions only required a very brief dipping into a prior storyline or not at all.
The benefit of that is that even as the game matured there were always fresh faces doing past content.

If you have an expansion reliant on doing 100+ quests as a prerequisite, the newer people will leave out of frustration from queue times or dead empty zones.
Then when patch days come along, people rush to do the new dungeons and trials because they know after a fortnight the queues become impossibly long.

Then because we are left with a matured playerbase, our demands on the development team result in too many demands and expectations which the devs can't satisfy.

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Originally Posted by Perogwin

Those are the Snippets I was talking about - I am talking the non team story content like meeting the Sylphs the first time, or unraveling the mess in the Central Highlands with a different set of power.

Never Mind.....not even sure why I am trying to explain it to people who just don't get my meaning.

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I get your meaning just fine, what I don't get is the need people seem to have to make all sorts of characters just to level another job and why the devs would need to cater to that.

A Friend of mine also Just joined the game, this is his 3rd day and hes already 35. PLEASE explain how you don't have enough time to hit 50. What people are spouting is not true. This game gives CATERS to new people.
The truth is you guys probably just don't want to take the time to help the new player level and just want to zoom through content. So your friend is coming into the game. Go level astrologian and help him. ENCOURAGE him that this class is awesome so lets get to 50 faster and level as a group.

I don't understand your complaints.

Don't you want to be an awesome senapi?

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I also don't want you saying oh, I'll be 30 so I won't be able to help him. BS Do fates, it won't hinder EXP and you can queue as healer to get him in dungeons Asap.
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Originally Posted by Aeyis

You learned nothing from guildhests? I take it then you ignored everything the hest NPCs tell you? Because the guildhests help you with a lot of the tactics you will actually need to use in dungeons.

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What... none of the guildhests are anything like the strategies in dungeons, they are closer to solo quests in the main storyline then anything else. They teach you absolutely nothing about dungeons or raids.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

Plenty of reasons have been given. Just because you choose to ignore them does not make them invalid.

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Excuses are invalid. Whenever some one has to pick and choose words from a large paragraph, split them out to make a point then they have no point at all. They are simply taking words out of context and using them against you.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

Older games? Older games rarely gave any explaination.

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Wrong, Older games teach you how to do things before you use them and teaches you how to use them. For example, Megaman, Zelda.

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

They have enough time to get there. If they pre-ordered you should be able to do early access with them and help them level. Unless you don't care about your friends. as much as you preech

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So many free insults, thank you very much.

I'd help him if he decided to rush through the MSQ, but thing is, he doesn't. Both he and I like the story a lot, so much that I intend to make an alt to redo it with him. His plea (and mine), was that we'd be able to do it as MAC and DRK. He never bought ARR before because it had no great sword job, and preferred to stay in XI instead. Now that he knows of DRK, he's very ready to make the jump. But sadly, the way the HW jobs are set up now, he'll be forced to do the MSQ as a class he does not like. Can you really blame players with these feelings? I think not.

My friend also watched all the cutscenes. I ran each dungeon with him and let him watch it. You really are not making sense to me. Just level in the same area.

If He doesn't like any of the classes now what makes you so absolutely positive hes going to "LOVE" the new classes.

Also DRK in XI is different from the DRK in FFXIV. Ones a dd, ones a tank.

Also your friend should be happy to level another job to 50, at least he'll have good cross -class skills to pull over when he does level dark.
At 30 Usually everyone has some job at 15 for this.

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

My friend also watched all the cutscenes. I ran each dungeon with him and let him watch it. You really are not making sense to me. Just level in the same area.

If He doesn't like any of the classes now what makes you so absolutely positive hes going to "LOVE" the new classes.

Also DRK in XI is different from the DRK in FFXIV. Ones a dd, ones a tank.

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He likes the great sword aspect of it, not the role itself. He's always played RPGs only because he is a great sword enthusiast. He doesn't need anything else to decide he loves a class.

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Originally Posted by Bluevann

He likes the great sword aspect of it, not the role itself. He's always played RPGs only because he is a great sword enthusiast. He doesn't need anything else to decide he loves a class.

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This is one part of the game I dislike, I wish for glamoured weapons that can be used for every class. For example Maces for Paladin/Gladiator, Hammers and Mauls, Greatswords for Warriors. Such like that.

Katana's for Ninja, ect ect...