Dev's You better answer!

I'm guessing they're running low on testers & only have a few hundred left to send out. So they want more people to apply.

Just because you need to have an active account to apply, doesn't mean they are only allowed to choose from active accounts. I don't know where people get that conclusion.

Your applications put your names on a list of players that provided information in order to help SE choose testers. If they needed to test a certain graphics card, for example, they can check all of the applications. This makes your chances of getting in slightly higher. This, however, does not mean that they are restricted to that list.

And how arrogant are people to believe that they are by obligation prioritized over others? Of course there is admiration and respect for those who stuck around, and SE can award those players for the support... but by no means are they obligated to provide you any more than they provide everyone else. Please stop being so self-entitled, guys... it's making our community seem childish. We got our Legacy rewards, dalamud horns, white raven earrings, special events, and even a free chocobo! Yet you still demand more?

By all means, despair over not getting into alpha and celebrate when you do get in, but don't presume you know exactly how the selection process works because that is completely up to SE.

The way I see it now is: Also make some ppl who's not really interested doing alpha to have false hope, then ruin their day. :p

I am really sorry for ppl who really expecting invites. But making others who's not really hoping that much having false hopes is just plain wrong. That email in my inbox is the prove. And it's not because I can't unsubscribe. :p

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Originally Posted by BobbinT

The way I see it now is: Also make some ppl who's not really interested doing alpha to have false hope, then ruin their day. :p

I am really sorry for ppl who really expecting invites. But making others who's not really hoping that much having false hopes is just plain wrong. That email in my inbox is the prove. And it's not because I can't unsubscribe. :p

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I think your making a mountain out of a mole hill ( looking to deep into this)

Alpha ends in a week? News to me. Will beta begin right afta?

Sorry to say, your input is not more valid then theirs.

Those players that quit 1.0 pre 1.20 are as valid candidates as you that played everyday until the world ended.

Those "old" players can give feedback about the current version in ways that you will not, because they will based on their feedback to the reasons why they quit in the first place. By having those players, SE, or mainly the ARR team, can now avoid and make sure they do not repeat the same mistakes the original team made and cause the players to leave.

You may not feel this is fair, but it is important for the current ARR team to avoid the mines the original team laid.

jc

buuhuu ; ; ... im not even gonna say wait for beta , 2012 almost over few months and the game is released, jeez some ppl need hobbies or something..


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Originally Posted by MrKupo

Just because you need to have an active account to apply, doesn't mean they are only allowed to choose from active accounts. I don't know where people get that conclusion.

Your applications put your names on a list of players that provided information in order to help SE choose testers. If they needed to test a certain graphics card, for example, they can check all of the applications. This makes your chances of getting in slightly higher. This, however, does not mean that they are restricted to that list.

And how arrogant are people to believe that they are by obligation prioritized over others? Of course there is admiration and respect for those who stuck around, and SE can award those players for the support... but by no means are they obligated to provide you any more than they provide everyone else. Please stop being so self-entitled, guys... it's making our community seem childish. We got our Legacy rewards, dalamud horns, white raven earrings, special events, and even a free chocobo! Yet you still demand more?

By all means, despair over not getting into alpha and celebrate when you do get in, but don't presume you know exactly how the selection process works because that is completely up to SE.

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If you dont have active account, you should not be able to APPLY at all.

- if SE is letting inactive accounts to apply. they should remove "Must have an active FF XIV account" from the requirements

-if inactive account able to apply, when it is not SE intention, they should give confirmation of this oversight.

-if SE is inviting inactive account without having them to applying in the alpha registration page, its up to them, but be prepared that some people will objection this.

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Originally Posted by Aion

If you dont have active account, you should not be able to APPLY at all.

- if SE is letting inactive accounts to apply. they should remove "Must have an active FF XIV account" from the requirements

-if inactive account able to apply, when it is not SE intention, they should give confirmation of this oversight.

-if SE is inviting inactive account without having them to applying in the alpha registration page, its up to them, but be prepared that some people will objection this.

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Goodness. I can confirm you will get an error message stating you must have an active FFXIV account if you try to apply with one that isn't. To reiterate what MrKupo said, even if you can only apply with an active account, it doesn't mean nor imply that SE will only send invites to active FFXIV players. They can very well choose other players who did not apply but have played FFXIV before. As a matter of fact someone I know got an invitation but never applied. Edit: or at least they don't remember applying.

And btw, what's your definition of "active" account? "Active" doesn't only mean something's being used, it can also mean that it's "working". I haven't played FFXI in ages and to my knowledge, my FFXI account still works even if I don't use it. I can log on, pay up and continue playing whenever I want. That doesn't sound very inactive to me. It would be inactive if I decided to delete it.

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Originally Posted by VitoScaletta

Alpha ends in a week? News to me. Will beta begin right afta?

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in Letter from the Producer Live, Yoshi-P says around the end of January is when they were planning to start beta.

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Originally Posted by Miliant

As a matter of fact someone I know got an invitation but never applied.

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lol why then make an application site at all?
they're sending blind invites to people without knowing their PC specs, playtimes, MMO experience etc.?

it's getting better and better.

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Originally Posted by Miliant

Goodness. I can confirm you will get an error message stating you must have an active FFXIV account if you try to apply with one that isn't. To reiterate what MrKupo said, even if you can only apply with an active account, it doesn't mean nor imply that SE will only send invites to active FFXIV players. They can very well choose other players who did not apply but have played FFXIV before. As a matter of fact someone I know got an invitation but never applied. Edit: or at least they don't remember applying.

And btw, what's your definition of "active" account? "Active" doesn't only mean something's being used, it can also mean that it's "working". I haven't played FFXI in ages and to my knowledge, my FFXI account still works even if I don't use it. I can log on, pay up and continue playing whenever I want. That doesn't sound very inactive to me. It would be inactive if I decided to delete it.

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hmmm?? if they didnt apply, then it confirms that SE did blind invite.lol.. if they did apply, Im fine with it, but are you sure they do it with active FF XIV account?

this is not matter of who deserve who isnt. But consistency of the system.

But I give benefit of doubt to SE, because they KNOWN as not-so-good company at managing accounts. lol

Lol People are still complaining about this common now we all want to play "patience" please

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Originally Posted by Phe

lol why then make an application site at all?
they're sending blind invites to people without knowing their PC specs, playtimes, MMO experience etc.?

it's getting better and better.

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If that is true, then I'm willing to bet SE didn't even use that application site, and just randomly chose people that currently have or ever have had a FFXIV account as a candidate for alpha. Either way, true or not, this whole thing just has a "stink" about it, lol.

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Originally Posted by mikoto_qc

Application requirements:
- Must currently have an active FINAL FANTASY XIV account

So inactive accounts obviously do not fulfill the requirements for alpha.
Still they're getting invites.

And i dont got invites when Alpha close in a week.............
My friends got his account innactive since December 2011 but he got invites on the 1rst N/A waves.......what the *****

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reading comprehension lacking.

sorry to say this but SE never said they wont invite active accounts. like you quoted all they said is that you need an active account but active does not mean playing ffxiv but haveing an account and ffxiv registred at on time.

besides SE can invite whoever they want.

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Originally Posted by GinTama

reading comprehension lacking.

sorry to say this but SE never said they wont invite active accounts. like you quoted all they said is that you need an active account but active does not mean playing ffxiv but haveing an account and ffxiv registred at on time.

besides SE can invite whoever they want.

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Don't say that 'round these here parts. You're likely to get lynched and burned at the stake.

To be perfectly honest I never applied for alpha and will probably never play beta. I know I'm not productive as a tester, and as a player I'd rather wait until everything is actually ready to be played.

This OP is complete bullshit. I'm in alpha no one there is on an inactive account. This is in NO way the RIGHT way to get the devs attention. How incredibly disrespectful.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

To be perfectly honest I never applied for alpha and will probably never play beta. I know I'm not productive as a tester, and as a player I'd rather wait until everything is actually ready to be played.

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Expect an invite to alpha then in the next wave, lol ;)

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Originally Posted by Rex

This OP is complete bullshit. I'm in alpha no one there is on an inactive account. This is in NO way the RIGHT way to get the devs attention. How incredibly disrespectful.

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nice try.
yes Sir, obviously someone who is actually playing alpha has an active account.
that does not mean they had an active FFXIV account when they applied.

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Originally Posted by Rex

This OP is complete bullshit. I'm in alpha no one there is on an inactive account. This is in NO way the RIGHT way to get the devs attention. How incredibly disrespectful.

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quick! report him so he gets kicked and take his place! >:D

Lol it's pretty impressive you've managed to make friends with a whole alpha server to know this ^^
Wish I was that cool.

Quick question to everyone QQ for a alpha invite .. u guys want a INVITE SOOO BAD to this game to help the DEV make the game better OR just to play it FOR fun ? Because i have a (Friend) that is in ALPHA and there nothing much to do . i rather get invite to beta than this anyday but that just me ..

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

Sorry, but it doesn't make sense to have only active FFXIV accounts gain access to the applications. None at all.

The game isn't just for you. They didn't redevelop the whole thing simply for you. This was for the global MMO market. So, how on earth would it make sense to lock it to only those masochists who stuck around? Hmm?

The alpha is a version that it's main purpose is stress tests. However, for an alpha, it's in pretty damn good shape and in even greater shape than 1.0's alpha, beta, and release combine. Why would it be a bad thing to kill two bird's with one stone and do stress testing as well as attempting to prove that FFXIV's rebirth is legit to naysayers?

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Don't be bringing logic into these forums!!!

I have a feeling that Square is monitoring peoples posts and threads. Everyone that keeps posting up negative threads like "Devs You Better Answer" is definitely NOT getting into Alpha. Since they don't want people going into Alpha, which is not what the complete game is going to look like, and then posting up more negative threads about the game, which is honostly not what the game needs after the last launch :\

Oh my... so much Hostility!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZWpYb2CSNc

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Originally Posted by Locket

This whole thread "Dev's You better answer!" is rude so don't say anything about rude ^^

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Welcome to the Forums! *Business Smile face* :D

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Originally Posted by Abriael

No, I'm not, but I don't make it my business to demolish a language while write a confrontational and useless post that adds nothing to the discussion and serves the sole purpose to antagonize people that have a right to be frustrated.

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I guess everyone can make simple grammar/spelling mistakes while writing useless posts that add nothing to discussions. :(

And no offense, but LOL @ your "right to be frustrated".

Abriael is like SE's Forum Police force.. annnnnd I'm hungry.. Going to eat a Donut ;)..

He love's his DONUTS!!!!!! LMAO

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Abriael is like SE's Forum Police force.. annnnnd I'm hungry.. Going to eat a Donut ;)..

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haha this thread is awesome....

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Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru

And no offense, but LOL @ your "right to be frustrated".

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Paying customers that are clearly told something and then that something is not honored, have a right to be disappointed and frustrated. The extent of that disappointment and frustration can vary between individuals, but I see nothing wrong with it.

Company: "Only our paying customers are entitled to this product/service."

Paying customer: "Yay!"

*Company delivers product/service to people that aren't paying customers, while leaving out a large number of paying customers.

Paying customer: "WTF?!"

I would say frustration and disappointment are entirely justified, but hey, you're entitled to your own opinion.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Paying customers that are clearly told something and then that something is not honored, have a right to be disappointed and frustrated. The extent of that disappointment and frustration can vary between individuals, but I see nothing wrong with it.

Company: "Only our paying customers are entitled to this product/service."

Paying customer: "Yay!"

*Company delivers product/service to people that aren't paying customers, while leaving out a large number of paying customers.

Paying customer: "WTF?!"

I would say frustration and disappointment are entirely justified, but hey, you're entitled to your own opinion.

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He never said ever that current players had first come first serve he said a long time ago that he wanted people who don't play the game to give feed back and we had a thread just like this with people crying in it.

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Originally Posted by Firon

He never said ever that current players had first come first serve he said a long time ago that he wanted people who don't play the game to give feed back and we had a thread just like this with people crying in it.

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"- Must currently have an active FINAL FANTASY XIV account"

Not sure what part of it you do not understand. I would paraphrase for your sake, but I'm not really sure how to make it clearer than that.

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Originally Posted by Rex

This OP is complete bullshit. I'm in alpha no one there is on an inactive account. This is in NO way the RIGHT way to get the devs attention. How incredibly disrespectful.

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My husband got invited in the last wave (not 12/12), he hasn't had an active account for months. :x

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Originally Posted by Nix

My husband got invited in the last wave (not 12/12), he hasn't had an active account for months. :x

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just wondering...are people like this just getting random invites? as in they didn't go in and apply manually?

Nix said her husband DID apply.

We theorized in the other thread that it could have been when the devs made all the accounts active so they could log in for the final event on the 11th. It could have been here that the inactives got the short window to apply and have their applications submitted. An oversight on SE's part.

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Originally Posted by Vilhem

Nix said her husband DID apply.

We theorized in the other thread that it could have been when the devs made all the accounts active so they could log in for the final event on the 11th. It could have been here that the inactives got the short window to apply and have their applications submitted. An oversight on SE's part.

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They havent confirm anything on this, while, is it that hard to admit it?

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Originally Posted by Aion

They havent confirm anything on this, while, is it that hard to admit it?

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Don't ask me lol. Maybe they don't feel they need to? I can't answer for them. But it's the only explanation possible for how inactive accounts were able to apply to be Alpha testers.

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Originally Posted by Vilhem

Don't ask me lol. Maybe they don't feel they need to? I can't answer for them. But it's the only explanation possible for how inactive accounts were able to apply to be Alpha testers.

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yeah, I pretty much agree with this.

My husband did physically apply for the alpha ; ;, I really think vil's theory is true. I can't say exactly when my husband applied because he has forgotten (bloody men).