I just got an account warning for "grief tactics" and I literally have no idea why

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Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy

Bruh, I can type during ultimates and you have problems with Frontline?

"stop typing and play the game" - FFXIV is a MMO. Chatting IS THE GAME.

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Ultimates is a scripted game, you know what is coming next and if not your cactbot will tell you that....

PvP is far more fast paced if anything meaning you need to be on the mission and you are not knowing what is coming next....

So I am asking questions to the argument you bring up.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

PvP is far more fast paced if anything meaning you need to be on the mission and you are not knowing what is coming next....

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Because so much is happening when you're waiting for an uncontested crystal to spawn and when you're hitting that uncontested crystal for a good minute with no enemy in sight. You really gotta be on your toes when you die and respawn and autowalk back to your team there could be anyone waiting in the bush for you! You literally cannot type a single word there's always something happening!!! You're literally trolling if you say anything at all

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Originally Posted by Ajisaii

Because so much is happening when you're waiting for an uncontested crystal to spawn and when you're hitting that uncontested crystal for a good minute with no enemy in sight. You really gotta be on your toes when you die and respawn and autowalk back to your team there could be anyone waiting in the bush for you! You literally cannot type a single word there's always something happening!!! You're literally trolling if you say anything at all

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You need to look out 100% of the time, sitting idle by is not productive even if it is waiting fro a crystal, if you got something important to say in chat, make it related to what is going in the game, can be a chatterbox outside of any zone all the way one want to.... engaging other players is high priority and each time it is an unique experience in PvP, in PvE related content it is not, but probably still would be frowned upon if am a chatterbox doing ultimates, be it in text form or blabbering about 10 different things on a voIP disturbing the rest of the team when focus is gold.

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Originally Posted by Ajisaii

Because so much is happening when you're waiting for an uncontested crystal to spawn and when you're hitting that uncontested crystal for a good minute with no enemy in sight. You really gotta be on your toes when you die and respawn and autowalk back to your team there could be anyone waiting in the bush for you! You literally cannot type a single word there's always something happening!!! You're literally trolling if you say anything at all

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Uhm. The main reason you can't say anything at all in CC is because chat is disabled? If you're talking about Shatter, who gives a tinker's cuss, it's a PvE mode.

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Originally Posted by BayanKha

I guess this ain't the place for me then. Glad I only spent $60 before figuring that out.

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Don't worry, it's not the place for more than half of the playerbase, as SE has lost more than 1/2 of the player pop in just a single year alone. Many of them are longstanding vets and, take it from me as I've seen a lot of MMO's go in the toilet over the years, most don't come back. If you enjoy the game then keep playing, otherwise don't make the same mistake everyone else did and get invested in something that will never be good again.

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Originally Posted by Ajisaii

Because so much is happening when you're waiting for an uncontested crystal to spawn and when you're hitting that uncontested crystal for a good minute with no enemy in sight. You really gotta be on your toes when you die and respawn and autowalk back to your team there could be anyone waiting in the bush for you! You literally cannot type a single word there's always something happening!!! You're literally trolling if you say anything at all

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"Waiting for an uncontested crystal to spawn" gave me a good laugh. Sounds like you're not playing PvP for the v.

So what do we think, chat. Was OP 0/0/16 while making that joke about feeding to lose faster?

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

Uhm. The main reason you can't say anything at all in CC is because chat is disabled? If you're talking about Shatter, who gives a tinker's cuss, it's a PvE mode.

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Shatter is definately not PvE mode, it has an objective to kill the crystals, but you really need to smash up players a lot to win and you need your approach to be in a position so you not get stuck in a crossfire.

Most overwhelming wins in any Frontline, with a few exceptions of course, is by taking down the opponents and stealing points from them.

Seize and Danshig Naadam are different though, as the objectives there and being able to keep them can give victory being tipped the underdog of the 3 teams but you still need to do PvP and this more this better.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

You need to look out 100% of the time, sitting idle by is not productive even if it is waiting fro a crystal, if you got something important to say in chat, make it related to what is going in the game, can be a chatterbox outside of any zone all the way one want to.... engaging other players is high priority and each time it is an unique experience in PvP, in PvE related content it is not, but probably still would be frowned upon if am a chatterbox doing ultimates, be it in text form or blabbering about 10 different things on a voIP disturbing the rest of the team when focus is gold.

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You sound annoying to play with. Happy I don't waste my time PvPing in this game.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Shatter is definately not PvE mode, it has an objective to kill the crystals, but you really need to smash up players a lot to win and you need your approach to be in a position so you not get stuck in a crossfire.

Most overwhelming wins in any Frontline, with a few exceptions of course, is by taking down the opponents and stealing points from them.

Seize and Danshig Naadam are different though, as the objectives there and being able to keep them can give victory being tipped the underdog of the 3 teams but you still need to do PvP and this more this better.

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Sure, Shatter should have a significant PvP element, but many players seem unaware of this in practice.

So did he ever actually tell you guys what he said? I assume it was something along the lines of telling people to give up, let the other team win, etc which is against the rules.

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Originally Posted by Raim

So did he ever actually tell you guys what he said? I assume it was something along the lines of telling people to give up, let the other team win, etc which is against the rules.

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Originally Posted by BayanKha

The most offensive things I've ever said in Frontlines are "Who's ready to pretend to like PvP for 20 minutes" and "hey, if we pick one side to feed, we can end it faster". I can count on one hand the number of times I've even sworn, and I didn't today.

Another thing: the match finished less than 15 minutes before the GM pulled me in, so it had to have been something in chat, otherwise there was no way they could have caught it that fast. I'm starting to think they just didn't check at all, which is honestly just frightening.

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Don't joke about throwing and remember Poe's Law.

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Originally Posted by Llamalass

You sound annoying to play with. Happy I don't waste my time PvPing in this game.

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Quite the opposite, I am very insanely quiet, focused and suggesting to hit point A, B or C, if need to call out a given possible advantage.

Been doing the content too much as it is, I can only say and tell about stuff out from experience here, when it comes up and challenged for it, don't think bad of people sharing out of experience when maybe would be able to learn something about it and secondly it is important to respect peoples time playing the game if you join in for the content that is, it comes as normal courtesy, likewise I don't care how good or bad people are either as long as they try and maybe learn a thing or two, that is entirely a thing NOT to worry about either.

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

Sure, Shatter should have a significant PvP element, but many players seem unaware of this in practice.

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That part is getting better though, yes killing ice is important, but hey... if we can take some of the others out while doing it, this better, does not require all to be there 100% of the time as it is, depending on situation, if you can see the two other teams heavy engage each other take out the ice as quickly as possible and raid quickly after and so on and so forth. :D