Fatigue <can I have it?>

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Exactamundo,

Rokien, if you wanna suggest that SE should bring back fatigue (or a fatigue-like system), then man up and do it. Don't say, "Well, since nobody likes it, we can make it optional. Please don't flame me." It's that mentality that led SE to give us three different options for targetting, none of which actually work.

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I'm pretty sure I've stated before I would like the system back. I don't need to man up about anything.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Why though, you guys can have your faster elveling, while the people who want it slowed down get theirs, what's wrong with that? it's a choice.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Thanks Reiheart!~
But you don't have to use it though... lol

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Ya, exactly there is an option to level faster, why not slower?

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MAN UP. Making it optional is ridiculous, because nobody will use it. Stop defending the idea of toggling it because you can't think of a good enough reason it should be made permanent for all players.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

People, I LIKE PLAYING WITH OTHER PEOPLE! THAT'S WHY I PLAY A MMO!

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So in other words you want to force a massive amount of people to play your way?

Because even with a toggle option, it's been stated that few would likely play that way. So if there aren't enough like-minded people to level slower with now, why force it on everyone else?

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Wow, wish I was there for that~ lol

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Yeah, it would've been more fun. XD

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Originally Posted by Dragon

Yeah, it would've been more fun. XD

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Your idea was way better than this one.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Your idea was way better than this one.

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I don't care if they get rid of levels. They way it is now, they should

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Your idea was way better than this one.

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/bow

My ideas are always better! :D

Uhhh, no. they're getting rid of the final bit of gathering fatigue in 2.0, why bring any of that back?
"It helps stabilize the market." It's also a hindrance to individual playstyles. Some days I don't want to go out and level, so I put on a movie or some netflix and I craft, if I hit some crafting "fatigue" barrier. I'd probably log off and play something else.

Square-Enix does not need to give players reasons to play other games when it's game is improving but it's future is still "questionable".

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Originally Posted by Dragon

/bow

My ideas are always better! :D

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Hmmm, someone needs to make a thread. Get rid of leveling but add guild marks back.

I really think that would be an awesome system.

They managed to do it right in Chrono Cross.

But translating that to an online game would be challenging.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

They managed to do it right in Chrono Cross.

But translating that to an online game would be challenging.

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not with guild marks, guild marks would work very well if there was no levels.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Hmmm, someone needs to make a thread. Get rid of leveling but add guild marks back.

I really think that would be an awesome system.

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Yay, some more RNG hiderance to character progression, how awesome! That would also go over like a lead balloon. You are just full of awesome suggestions, dude.

/sarcasm

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Yay, some more RNG hiderance to character progression, how awesome! That would also go over like a lead balloon. You are just full of awesome suggestions, dude.

/sarcasm

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Where did I even say rng?

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Where did I even say rng?

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When you mentioned guild marks. Yes, guildmarks were rng based. How was the number of marks determined for your reward? An RNG, that's how. It just happened to do it's number generation before you ever grabbed the leve from the counter.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

When you mentioned guild marks. Yes, guildmarks were rng based. How was the number of marks determined for your reward? An RNG, that's how. It just happened to do it's number generation before you ever grabbed the leve from the counter.

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............. you people are soo closed minded when it comes to things.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

............. you people are soo closed minded when it comes to things.

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Quite the opposite, you are so short sighted that you're not seeing the whole picture. I'm not here to shit on your parade, I'm here to inject some reality into your flawed logic.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

............. you people are soo closed minded when it comes to things.

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I'm sorry, but you're being the narrow minded one. You're not looking at how your "ideas" are going to impact the game as a whole. All you do is "Gee this would be nice, but we can make it optional so you don't have to flame me. But yea, I don't care how it affects the rest of the game."

You put absolutely ZERO thought into how this affects the other players you claim to wish to play with.

^ - ^ No thank you. I don't want that kind of virus a part of the code, not even as an option!

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Originally Posted by Rokien

omg..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abE09-tqhoM

I don't see a problem with this, but, I want it on all the time, not till I get x amount of exp, so it's not really Fatigue.

Also, I liked the fatigue system.

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Why should you be punished for having more time? That is what a fatigue system is and usually only implemented in games at the launch and removed later because it is kind of a counter measure to combat people from reaching cap too fast especially when there is very little to no end game content. It didn't work well before and it wouldn't work well now. Especially when they have said so many times they want level from 1-50 to be fast, so why are you beating a dead horse?

Also, you only have two classes at 50. For as long as you've been playing, you could conceivably have all 50's. Hell, I'm extremely lazy when it comes to leveling other jobs and I have three.

So if you're not even all that serious about leveling anything, why even bother making a post about something to affect EXP?

Get off furoms dude, this is a definate NO!

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Originally Posted by Alerith

Also, you only have two classes at 50. For as long as you've been playing, you could conceivably have all 50's. Hell, I'm extremely lazy when it comes to leveling other jobs and I have three.

So if you're not even all that serious about leveling anything, why even bother making a post about something to affect EXP?

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It's called being prepared for 2.0 so I can experience leveling in 2.0. Why would I wanna get all 50s? I leveled the classes that I wanted to level.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

People, I LIKE PLAYING WITH OTHER PEOPLE! THAT'S WHY I PLAY A MMO!

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Well you have to learn to respect what others want in order to play with them, we asked them to remove fatigue system several months ago, so you like to have a leash for leveling? well go ask your mom to turn off your computer once you reach 2hrs played, let us have the freedom to play as many hours as we want.

Or go whip yourself

The only payoff that could necessitate a toggle like this would be converting a percentage of your EXP into a Grand Company seals or increased spiritbond for sub-50 classes/jobs. That will give the crazies the option of a slower leveling rate and everyone else a slightly interesting tradeoff for reduced EXP.

Otherwise, what you're suggesting is akin to a McDonalds employee asking his supervisor for smaller wages so that he can work longer hours to make the same amount amount of money.

As a side note, if I were that supervisor, I would insta-term the employee before terming myself, then commit myself to an asylum out of the fear that I contracted a frighteningly contagious form of stupid.

Hell no, instead make leveling slower and stuff not harder but longer to get

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Fatigue <can I have it?>

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HELL NO!!!

one system im happy thats gone.

Roriken, why are you throwing up random ideas in multiple threads when you have one particular goal in mind?

You could have saved everyone the trouble of going to three threads to smack you three different times verbally and just made one thread stating "I want to extend the average playtime, how do we do so?" And listed your 3 ideas in that one thread?

Fatigue system is a no go. It was canned for a reason. If there is anything we can extend the lenght of time on perhaps is the length it takes to spirit bind, and only that by slightly as people use XP parties as a means to spiritbind and make meteria or multi-melds.

Hello,

This thread's ratio of Constructive vs. Non-Constructive posts has hit a poor balance, so I'm going to be locking this for now.

I understand that some people may see threads unnecessary or inflammatory by their nature, but the only acceptable avenues for this are to either ignore the thread, add the poster to your ignore list, or reporting the thread to the moderator. Taking it upon yourself to post aggressive or inappropriate comments only runs the risk of backlash when it comes time to moderate the thread.

Thank you for your understanding.

~Baudle