Fat Cat Coat & Pagaga’s Emote.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

This thing

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https://c.tenor.com/PXHmu0Ofp-sAAAAd...izabeth-ii.gif

...what amount? Would you please stop talking out of your arse for once...? Apart from situations people have pointed one thing and then got promptly ignored, this is what the general overview is for these races:

- Allocate time and resources to finish these races in the future. We're not expecting an overnight change, but at some point in the future.
"Define 'finish the race' please": certainly! I'm talking about how Hrothgars were promised unique hairstyles due to how their faces would not serve to accomodate their hairs. I'm talking about how we still have hairstyles locked to specific faces. If it's unatenable to make unique stuff, then form a selection of hairstyles that do fit us and aren't ports from hairstyles given to Vieras instead.
- Adjust more headgear to fit our heads. We understand, as we've said as much in other threads, that it would be a serious undertaking. But it's a natural undertaking once you've committed to implementing these races. We're not asking for things to fit us perfectly; Au Ra and Miqo'te don't have that, why would we? But they at least CAN wear headgear, so what seems to be the problem? "Clipping is an issue", yes, and we've made it abundantly clear in our threads that it's only YOUR paranoia at work there, Square Enix. It does not come from us. BOSSES in this game clip through their own models. We clip through animations in cutscenes all the time! Clipping is a part of the game, and while it would throw some people off to have garish clipping, it isn't a guarantee that it will be applied across every piece. Not to mention the double-standard set up when Miqo'te have stuff adjusted for their ears, yet Hrothgar and Viera can't have stuff adjusted for theirs.
- On that note, don't pick stuff blindly. Because Hrothgar feedback should not be lumped with Viera feedback, we're two different races and player groups.
- Don't cut out our racial traits. Au Ra horns clip through things. Miqo'te tails clip through things. It's fine for Viera ears to clip, we just pretend there are holes. We don't need justifications for everything: it's a 3D videogame with outdated graphics, it's fine.
- Please show transparency and don't resort to lies. Don't chop ears and tell us "it's too hard" after, when amateurs have done your job for you in a single week while streaming it. Especially when one of the things you had to do was flip a boolean value.

Everything else? Esoteric. Stuff like Viera feet, for example, would be great, but odds are Square's going to stick to that one 100%, and thus isn't feasible to ask for.
If anything, as you see there, no one is disrespecting the devs, if anything we understand that it takes work. But that's their job, not ours, and it's their commitment after deciding to go through with two new races. I'm not "speaking for the others". I'm saying what I see in those threads, often after loads of discussion on the topic.

It LOOKS like a lot, but actually read carefully for once in your life. A lot of it is interwoven, I just split ideas into their smaller components. None of which are "asking for too much". And when it IS too much, read again: WE'RE WILLING TO WAIT. We just want communication.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

I interacted in maybe one thread, said my piece and left. It's long forgotten. I can only keep track of so much. :)

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Then why are you here speaking like you know what you're talking about?

"slight error"? Your entire point is based on how we're nagging the devs. Have some respect.

Y'all act like we're whiny or disrespectful to the devs, but you're no better. Look at you! Grasping at straws just to make a point. And for what? Because you don't like us or something? Give me a break, there's far worse in these threads and not every feedback is a sign of hate. Just grow up please and go do something better than nagging people who haven't done a darn to deserve it.

That emote fits perfectly for lalafells XD

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

Hate to say it, but beggars can't be choosers. They didn't even want to make these races, but were pressured into it. Now, it's a slow process of getting all that to be compatible with gear.

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Also, Lalas are the ones with the broken animations.

https://i.imgur.com/A6T0Ud2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/sJY4Zbl.jpg

I didn't test all of the emotes (there are a lot), but this affects joy, dance, happy, examine self, huh, pantomime, spectacles, welcome, wave, moogle dance, and probably more.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

Hate to say it, but beggars can't be choosers. They didn't even want to make these races, but were pressured into it. Now, it's a slow process of getting all that to be compatible with gear.

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The thing is, no one told them to make both Hrothgar and Viera at the same time. The limitations both races have are obviously from this decision, otherwise the two races wouldn't have any issues.

Au'ra were made back in Heavensward. Both male and female with no problems whatsoever (besides their horrendous horn clipping, lol). The devs should done the same with either Hrothgar or Viera first. Releasing them separately with each new expansion. Which would have been Shadowbringers and then Endwalker.

This is a mistake of their own doing, pressure or not. And the devs have no one to blame but themselves for all the extra work they have to put into these two races now. Again, something that could have been resolved by releasing them separately with each new expansion, like they did with the Au'ra back in HW

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Originally Posted by Soge01

Au'ra were made back in Heavensward. Both male and female with no problems whatsoever (besides their horrendous horn clipping, lol). The devs should done the same with either Hrothgar or Viera first. Releasing them separately with each new expansion. Which would have been Shadowbringers and then Endwalker.

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I disagree. The mistake the devs made was not releasing both female Hrothgar and female Viera as playable options first, and then releasing the males as playable options later. One only has to look at the popularity of fem Viera compared to male Viera, and the outcry over the delay in getting fem Hrothgar, to realize this.

Your Au Ra example is indeed informative: the male and female models there are so different, they could have just as well been different races.

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Originally Posted by ronibosch

Something about the hood seems off. It looks unfinished, even. Also, separate gloves from the top would have made me consider buying it. C'est la vie.

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I'd say it's because the hood doesn't reach down to the chest piece like other hoods do.
(At least from the picture, not seen it in "action")

I'll obtain it at some future point the point at least the emote that does look funny.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

Ya got me. A slight error on a subject I frankly have little interest in. I interacted in maybe one thread, said my piece and left. It's long forgotten. I can only keep track of so much. :)

I know the announcement is out there in the LL section detailing their plans for the new races... It took them 3 years to get to this point. Don't expect any rush in progress. I think the separate hood was even made to accommodate said races.


I see AAA and small indie mentioned so much. I'm told I'm making excuses while people are making a ridiculous amount of requests and having super high expectations. Every place has their limits.

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"My super high expectations" for the races were for them to have comparable customization options to every other race in the game. Shocking. Insurmountable, even.

Now I don't even expect them to make anything look actually good on them lmao
Like what kind of asinine decision was cutting off Hrothgar ears in every hairstyle? I'm glad they fixed them, but both of these races have been a soup of bizarre design decisions from the start.

Every place has their limits, and SE apparently either lost sight of theirs or set the bar super low.

And I'm in the camp of I'm actually glad this hood cuts Viera ears off, if only because the double set of ears looks stupid (in the same way Miqo wearing the fox ear headband looks stupid, imo). I DO NOT like the increasing trend of cutting off racial features, to be clear, this is just one of the few cases where I'm more likely to actually use the hat because they did.

When it goes on sale for a less stupid price, ofc.

Probably in the minority here, but I love the hood. I'm having a blast making glams with it.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I'd prefer it, if instead of bundling everything together, like this new pricing model, they would instead sell pieces like this separately, of course it won't happen though. The only thing I'd want from this most recent set are the shorts.

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I'd prefer an ala cart purchase model as well.

Pun intended.

Deveryn waking up in the morning:

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

Ya got me. A slight error on a subject I frankly have little interest in.

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I'm ambivalent on the outfit (in the sense that I have nothing nice to say, so I won't say anything), but the emote should've been a Zadnor reward since it's ripped from a Zadnor npc. Its existence in the cash shop is sad and just shows that SE would rather make 7 dollars than give people reasons to actually go back to abandoned content that could use a revival.

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Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold

Deveryn waking up in the morning:

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ngl, mood.´

Especially on mondays.

...wait why did they make the gloves part of the jacket? And why didn't they make two versions of the jacket instead of the separate hood, so you could have an actual attached hood like some of the older "cannot equip headgear" robes? It comes with two versions of the pants so why not two versions of the jacket? It seems much more likely that people would want pawprint gloves to wear with other outfits more than they would want a weird unattached hood.

My main criticism with the jacket is how the "tail" seems to warp and stretch to an insane degree on male roes while they walk.
Way too distracting, but the rest of the set does work well with the winter sweater. Makes me feel extra comfy.