"Delubrum Reginae is soloable"

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Originally Posted by Avatre

Also, there is one more that you can get from Dalriada, it's the Deinonychus.

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Oh. Completely forgot this one because ... in my opinion its ugly :D

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

Oh. Completely forgot this one because ... in my opinion its ugly :D

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Agreed. The best ones from Bozja content are the construct, the bike, and Cerberus.

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

Oh. Completely forgot this one because ... in my opinion its ugly :D

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How dare you, that's my precious boy and the only mount I've ever ride with :mad:

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Originally Posted by Mika_Zahard

I heard something that RDM was listed as melee. Is that correct?

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I honestly wouldn't know since I haven't touched caster in DR. I could see weird shenanigans if you set your lost actions up right though, My brain is also saying that a lot of haste might help make it possible.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

Also, there is one more that you can get from Dalriada, it's the Deinonychus. The white raptor things in the north part of Zadnor, to the west along the northern most wall.

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I'm really disappointed, because this was the drop I was never able to get out of a Bozja instance.. I did A LOT of runs for it too. Too bad.

Late as heck, but I was able to get it done in a party of 7 the other day. We all had to use essences though. A buddy of mine managed to get it done in a party of 5, but he was in there for about an hour. I know, different worlds, but just wanted to share that you don't need a lot of people. I was straight up giving people who joined my groups fragments as well, just so they'd use essences because without those it legit becomes terrible. I know it's been a couple of months but I hope you were able to figure something out.

Around 2 weeks ago, I decided to run DR to play catchup on some unfinished weapons...
That's when I learned it puts you in automatically after 10mins. I've seen the occasional PF for it, just never knew it was this bad.

Ended up doing it with 2 FC members and it did take around 1-1:30 hours or so. 1war 1rpr 1whm
It was very boring due to our combo, all of us used essences & actions of course.

Needless to say, there is some merit to the message of the OP. Everyone & their mother knew bozja, relics, & especially DR was gonna be a hell to do later on once it became irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by Corrupted

Needless to say, there is some merit to the message of the OP. Everyone & their mother knew bozja, relics, & especially DR was gonna be a hell to do later on once it became irrelevant.

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Especially when Castrum became a bottleneck during the same expansion until they gave more reasons to do it. I can remember any number of threads here on the forums questioning "What's going to happen when it dies".

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I'm really disappointed, because this was the drop I was never able to get out of a Bozja instance.. I did A LOT of runs for it too. Too bad.

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Yeah it's so ridiculously low RNG that I had to buy it when Zadnor still a new content. Even I got both Lyon and Menenius Field Notes better than the mount. Glad I bought it because it reached like 100m on my server's mb now :eek:

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I'm really disappointed, because this was the drop I was never able to get out of a Bozja instance.. I did A LOT of runs for it too. Too bad.

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Dalriada should be doable these days. I'm leveling some alt jobs in Zadnor and I see the amaount of ppl joining this content.

One time I did a screenshot...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...42/unknown.png

... but I have seen bigger groups aswell.

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

Dalriada should be doable these days. I'm leveling some alt jobs in Zadnor and I see the amaount of ppl joining this content.

One time I did a screenshot...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...42/unknown.png

... but I have seen bigger groups aswell.

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Last time I did was with 9 people with half new to the raid. It went almost smooth for exception of the door section, it was a mess but other than that, cleared well.

Praise Deep Essence of the Beast + Lost Assassinate Monk, didn't even need Incense to get MT aggro.

For Dalriada, last time I did it we wereonly 4, and it went super easy even though the other two were first timers and had no essences and honors.
Honestly, CLL and DLR are much easier with less people cause it scales well and it with that HP it's almost impossible to die.

Very different from DR.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Correct me if i'm wrong but dont you also need a cleanse against the tankbuster doom at the last boss if you are going solo?

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you are COMPLETLY right, and i completly forgot about that mechanic while writing this...... so yes you need either "someone to res you" or "someone to dispell you" if you like playing the roullete lost reraise(iirc) is an option

"just use discord" is a really dumb solution that just shoves the problem under the rug. I shouldn't have to be forced to use discord to complete a relic (which is casual content). They need to make the Delubrum step have a better alternative because PFs do not fill consistently and you have to run it 5 times, each run of which could take an hour if you're with a small amount of people. Bozja relics are fucked and that's just how it is. Every other relic, including Eureka, you have agency over your own relic completion.

edit: forgot to mention, if you have a tiny amount of people attempting DR, you have to be much more focused, organized, and consistent in your play. nowhere ever before has this been something you have to do if you just want to finish a relic. I'm not going into a relic grind with there being a step that I have to go into with the same mindset as savage.

@ OP: .... Not sure what to tell you, I suppose play POTD and pray for the sub 1% chance drop rate on the Delubrum step item?

Mechanics make most of the ShB relic kit impossible or extremely awkward to solo or duo.

It needs to be looked at, but it's FFXIV gameplay content so expect not one finger to be lifted. If it isn't text in a box, acted by player emotes it isn't a priority.

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Originally Posted by ZeraSkiratea

you are COMPLETLY right, and i completly forgot about that mechanic while writing this...... so yes you need either "someone to res you" or "someone to dispell you" if you like playing the roullete lost reraise(iirc) is an option

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I was infact wrong apperently:

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

That tankbuster won't apply doom if there is no damage received. Couple that with the ridiculous echo scaling and possibly the essences, so long the targeted player is shielded for that part there's no need to cleanse it. GNB and PLD invuln will also negate the doom.

Or if people are generous enough, they can bring Lost Medikits that achieves just that however expensive/infrequently obtained they are.

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Originally Posted by localareanetwork

"just use discord" is a really dumb solution that just shoves the problem under the rug.

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That's true and according to the devs, it's a third-party tool, so technically against the ToS.

Utilize partifinder.

It is best to do with 4-6 person as it scales and you get super boosted.

Do not queue in.

This is the exact same advice EVERYONE gives to new players who need to do extreme trials. Not sure why would it be different for any other old content.

Cheers.

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Originally Posted by Shuuli

Utilize partifinder.

It is best to do with 4-6 person as it scales and you get super boosted.

Do not queue in.

This is the exact same advice EVERYONE gives to new players who need to do extreme trials. Not sure why would it be different for any other old content.

Cheers.

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Because EXes are not casual content. Relic grind on the other end is supposed to be yes grindy, but casual. You absolutely can't compare the two.

yes, it is soloable. whether its worth your time however is up to you. personally, there is no situation i would find it to be worth my time.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

Because EXes are not casual content. Relic grind on the other end is supposed to be yes grindy, but casual. You absolutely can't compare the two.

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Just because the relic is connect to Bozja content dosnt mean that the content is solely for the relic. You can complete Bozja for just the story and never actually pickup the relic quest, also you can gather relic parts outside of Bozja so the content dosnt need to be casual it just needs to be able to be completed and it is.

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Originally Posted by Baxcel

Just because the relic is connect to Bozja content dosnt mean that the content is solely for the relic. You can complete Bozja for just the story and never actually pickup the relic quest, also you can gather relic parts outside of Bozja so the content dosnt need to be casual it just needs to be able to be completed and it is.

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The content that the relic requires needs to be casual if they want to hold this up as the casual endgame weapon. And while you can get drops outside Bozja, the quest requires running DR at least once. It's the same sort of bottleneck that CLL was when it died even before ShB was over. BA was not ideal but at least acceptable to be relegated to Discord parties now because it's not an essential step. But they need to future proof content required by the relics so they can be done with the same ease now as ARR or HW relics.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

The content that the relic requires needs to be casual if they want to hold this up as the casual endgame weapon. And while you can get drops outside Bozja, the quest requires running DR at least once. It's the same sort of bottleneck that CLL was when it died even before ShB was over. BA was not ideal but at least acceptable to be relegated to Discord parties now because it's not an essential step. But they need to future proof content required by the relics so they can be done with the same ease now as ARR or HW relics.

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The content to get the material for the relic is casual, PoTD, LoA/ST/WoD and all the methods outside of Bozja. The content required to reach the next step and begin farming for the relic needs no such restriction, look back at Eureka and you have the relic work starting after completing the zone namely light farming in the zones. Similarly you begin farming the relic materials after completing steps in Bozja and DR is no exception. Could DR be a bit more optimized for smaller parties sure but as been shown in this thread it can be soloed and all you need is the single clear to start working on easier location albeit less effective methods.

Imagine looking at a 24 person raid being this empty and thinking things are going good. All that development time spent making flash in the pan content that's dead by the next expansion. Bravo.

I wonder if JP DC is experiencing a similar bottlenecks issue.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

I wonder if JP DC is experiencing a similar bottlenecks issue.

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it doesn't fill all the time, but there are hours when it does fill up.
Lots of people are still doing Bozja

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Originally Posted by Baxcel

Just because the relic is connect to Bozja content dosnt mean that the content is solely for the relic. You can complete Bozja for just the story and never actually pickup the relic quest, also you can gather relic parts outside of Bozja so the content dosnt need to be casual it just needs to be able to be completed and it is.

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Do you really consider PotD a valid farming method? The only way it is a farming method is by going for floor 200, and that's nothing casual. The drops on normal floors have such a low rate that it can barely be counted at all. DR is clearly where you're supposed to farm it, PotD is more a "getting some tiny additonal progress if you're doing it anyway". And I speak as someone who does a run of it every once in a while to attempt lucky, if it's in tails.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

Do you really consider PotD a valid farming method? The only way it is a farming method is by going for floor 200, and that's nothing casual. The drops on normal floors have such a low rate that it can barely be counted at all. DR is clearly where you're supposed to farm it, PotD is more a "getting some tiny additonal progress if you're doing it anyway". And I speak as someone who does a run of it every once in a while to attempt lucky, if it's in tails.

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The drop rate is pretty abysmal but it is still regular enough on even 51-60 that it can be grinded there. I've finished about 5 on that step now over the past 2 weeks of being in there a lot around daily items. Mostly because I hate DR. I'm sure part of it was that I was forced into the place instead of choosing to go there myself, but I just don't find the fights that fun. I did like the story, though. They do need to up the timeworn rate in POTD or offer a dungeon option like raw emotions. That would offset some of the pain of having a step with only two possibilities.