Disadvantage for male characters

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Originally Posted by Kling-Klang

The male equivalent of those clothes was unlocked for females as well, so I don't really understand your point. Doesn't help that it's a lot of dresses which look stupid on most male characters, meanwhile the unlocked male stuff looks good on female characters.
The only converted outfit I can think of right now is the gold saucer bunny outfit, and that one is a disappointment imo since I expected it to be something made for male only as an equal and not a female outfit unlocked for males.

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Yeah I know some people enjoy female version on males, but I was expecting a sexy outfit that compliments the more masculine features… not just a copy paste of an outfit that was clearly designed with a female body type in mind.

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Originally Posted by Vatom

or Tidus

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It's because they can't make a Leviabeetus glam to go with the Tidus one. We're SoL on this count.

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Originally Posted by Fukuro

Yeah I know some people enjoy female version on males, but I was expecting a sexy outfit that compliments the more masculine features… not just a copy paste of an outfit that was clearly designed with a female body type in mind.

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People be like

https://i.gifer.com/origin/93/936cb6...9ddd083495.gif

I think a lot of male players would prefer gear that actually looks good on their characters, rather than the female gear fitted to them just to make a statement.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I think a lot of male players would prefer gear that actually looks good on their characters, rather than the female gear fitted to them just to make a statement.

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Of course, yes. Some stuff shouldn't be genderrestricted, like the version of the pants/trousers from the gold saucer fashion report. Things like this should be 2 items, or include an option 'which' version should be displayed. But in general it's no solution just to adjust all the skirts und dresses and throw them on the male characters. Everyone knows, that this does not look so good, even if there are of course people who enjoy it. (That's totally fine, too) . :3 But most players just want fancy glam, that really suits the character model. And I really hope, that the dev team can solve that problem.

What’s funny too is on something like the Rydia tomestone healer glam, it wasn’t even really adjusted for male characters. They just said “yeah here’s a female character glam for the guys and they can go ahead and cross dress.” Gee….thanks?

We can say the same thing about fending and melee gear always being designed for male characters.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

What’s funny too is on something like the Rydia tomestone healer glam, it wasn’t even really adjusted for male characters. They just said “yeah here’s a female character glam for the guys and they can go ahead and cross dress.” Gee….thanks?

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Well, that's what they do with all the male character cosplay sets on female characters. No adaptations, just the exact same thing.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Well, that's what they do with all the male character cosplay sets on female characters. No adaptations, just the exact same thing.

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Funny thing is that outfit does change between male and female, turning into a rather low cut tank top instead of an M shaped corset(?). The key difference though is that it's obvious when an outfit is "meant" to be worn by someone with boobs

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Originally Posted by Allegor

The key difference though is that it's obvious when an outfit is "meant" to be worn by someone with boobs

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I know, but that's a curiosity of fashion as a whole, rather than gear design in this game.

Why is it that clothing designed for a male body, refitted for female, still looks good while clothing designed for a female body and fitted to male looks like it is lacking the shape that the clothing was designed for?

Does this hold true across cultures and different dress styles, or is it a quirk of our specific approach to clothing?

I dunno about advantage, after all guys at least aren't having body parts removed. Some of the older gear gives my poor girls double mastectomies and more then a few of the newer ones give reductions, and before anyone gives a smart remark about "slider to max" only my fem Roe is, all others are low middle.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I know, but that's a curiosity of fashion as a whole, rather than gear design in this game.

Why is it that clothing designed for a male body, refitted for female, still looks good while clothing designed for a female body and fitted to male looks like it is lacking the shape that the clothing was designed for?

Does this hold true across cultures and different dress styles, or is it a quirk of our specific approach to clothing?

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Well, I can speak only for myself, but imo it's not so much that clothes are specifically made for men/women (ok, they kinda are, but let's leave social and gender norms aside for the sake of the argument), it's that they're made for a silhouette that just happens to favor one sex over the other more often than not. Some men look good in womens clothing, but that's because they have the "appropriate" body shape to pull it off, doesn't mean that any guy can - and most certainly don't. The opposite is largely untrue because male outfits don't have any "highlights" to take into consideration and can be worn by just about anyone.

I guess, to put it shortly, it's easier to add an accent to a design - boobs, in this case - than it is to taking away what's supposed to be there.

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Originally Posted by Hysterior

Aren't there way more female characters than males in this game?

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Around 45% males/55% females according to LuckyBancho and FF14Census statistics, slightly varies. Which... isn't a big difference at all, honestly. To put it simply, in FF14 male characters are in fact popular, compared to many other MMO games where the distortion is often more noticeable (used to be worse in here too, but gradually shifted over the years).

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Originally Posted by Halivel

Around 45% males/55% females according to LuckyBancho and FF14Census statistics, slightly varies. Which... isn't a big difference at all, honestly. To put it simply, in FF14 male characters are in fact popular, compared to many other MMO games where the distortion is often more noticeable (used to be worse in here too, but gradually shifted over the years).

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Yep, which is why i’m concerned why they’re still continuing to place heavy bias in favor of female characters. At this point and after the whole yoshi p pvp blm ordeal, it really does seem like he’s just being biased because he plays a female character.

Every Male model sans Roe is just the F variant without boobs. So guys in this game will always look worse than girls because they have no distinct features or body types.


This Ken Doll Syndrome carries over to gear as well, most sets that aren't bulky just look awful on guys, whereas girls look good in bulky/revealing armor because their bodies have natural attractive curves/features that are prominent no matter what you put on.


It was an intentional design choice though, so I wouldn't expect it to change anytime soon. There's no point to catering to male characters in this game.

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Originally Posted by Euphares

Every Male model sans Roe is just the F variant without boobs. So guys in this game will always look worse than girls because they have no distinct features or body types.


This Ken Doll Syndrome carries over to gear as well, most sets that aren't bulky just look awful on guys, whereas girls look good in bulky/revealing armor because their bodies have natural attractive curves/features that are prominent no matter what you put on.


It was an intentional design choice though, so I wouldn't expect it to change anytime soon. There's no point to catering to male characters in this game.

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Dam your right about that

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Originally Posted by Euphares

Every Male model sans Roe is just the F variant without boobs. So guys in this game will always look worse than girls because they have no distinct features or body types.


This Ken Doll Syndrome carries over to gear as well, most sets that aren't bulky just look awful on guys, whereas girls look good in bulky/revealing armor because their bodies have natural attractive curves/features that are prominent no matter what you put on.


It was an intentional design choice though, so I wouldn't expect it to change anytime soon. There's no point to catering to male characters in this game.

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ayep.
see: hrothgar just being roes without the ability to wear hats.

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Originally Posted by Heavenchild

Is it only me, or do you guys also feel like, that male characters are a little bit in disadvantage in this game?

In my opionen the female sets often look more well designed. But what I mean today is..., that there is again new glam in the Mogshop and again it is just something new for the girls. Last time they gave us the Ryne set for girls. Now Lyse, and again, if you play a male character, there is nothing for you. Just can make a face like this, when looking in the shop ò.ó
xD

Maybe it's just me. But I feel very often in disadvantage with a male character. How do you feel about this? :)

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I feel like a lot of male people play female characters. So of course a lot of glamour is going to be focused on females.