1.22a Patch Notes

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Hmm thought PLD buff, DRG buff and WAR nerf was this patch

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So did I. Didn't see any mention of class/job adjustments for this patch.

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Originally Posted by Firon

I'm still looking for this quote that he said he would tell us how the weps are progressing cause in the last letter he states that the other 2 hamlets will be in 1.22a and that was it.

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You have to go back a month and a half, because the quote is from the letter at the end of March. It says in his road map there that there is a "high likelihood of a 1.22a release" and then he says at the end of that letter that there's "a chance that job-specific weapons might have to be delayed to 1.22a or later... I'll be sure to keep you in the know on the coming progress." Fast forward an entire month and a half, two patches, and another letter from the producer, and through all of that not a mention is ever made of a decision for job-exclusive weapons to be delayed past 1.22a.

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Originally Posted by Firon

I'm still looking for this quote that he said he would tell us how the weps are progressing cause in the last letter he states that the other 2 hamlets will be in 1.22a and that was it.




Pretty sure that right there says what was coming 1.22a but I might be reading it wrong.

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I believe that this concerned the progress of Hamlet Defense only since it was delayed from Ver 1.21 where it was initially planned for. I looked through the Community Rep posts and found no mention of a delay. Yoshida clearly stated that we would be able to see the Imperial Stronghold being built but could not enter. I can only imagine that the news concerning AF weapons fell through the cracks due to Yoshida's busy travel schedule prior to E2. Happens.

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Originally Posted by Firon

I'm still looking for this quote that he said he would tell us how the weps are progressing cause in the last letter he states that the other 2 hamlets will be in 1.22a and that was it.

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It's already been posted earlier in the thread

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Originally Posted by Yoshida

Now, I’d like to make an extra mention regarding the job-exclusive weapons listed among the updates. As you can see, there’s a chance that it’ll take until patch 1.22a or later. We’re in the middle of finalizing cost estimation, and so dates are still up in the air. I’ll be sure to keep you in the know on our progress in coming letters.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...803-26-2012%29

I guess you could say that him not mentioning the AF weapons in the last letter was a hint at us not getting them in 1.22a, but that would be a very vage way of letting us know.

PLD DRG and WAR stuff are 1.22b. Weapons and castrum just didnt make the cut

on a side note, I wonder what the key item "on the properties of beastmen" is for?

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Originally Posted by Req

The unfortunate thing is there are some amazing items that come from hamlet defense for gatherers and crafters, they are just incredibly time consuming to get, and you are still at the mercy of the RNG even if you do put forth the effort.

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not to mention 3 x hamlets will make it harder to get them past the first rank

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Originally Posted by Volsung

PLD DRG and WAR stuff are 1.22b. Weapons and castrum just didnt make the cut

on a side note, I wonder what the key item "on the properties of beastmen" is for?

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probably tells you what elements they are strong/weak to

Lame..where is the weapons?...

No job adjustments either...

Okay then. :/

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Originally Posted by Krausus

not to mention 3 x hamlets will make it harder to get them past the first rank

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One of the forum reps confirmed that adjustments are already being made with the release of the new Hamlets in order to balance the requirements for advancing the beastmen ranks, so that shouldn't be a problem.

Shouldn't.

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Originally Posted by Raymeo

One of the forum reps confirmed that adjustments are already being made with the release of the new Hamlets in order to balance the requirements for advancing the beastmen ranks, so that shouldn't be a problem.

Shouldn't.

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not in patch notes so unless ninjad in.....

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Originally Posted by Genome

Wait a tick, you have to supply 2500+ stacks of spruce branches (or whatever) to be top 20? Is that even possible?

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Ya I forgot to mention for those who prolly haven't had a chance to supply a Hamlet, the way it works is when you turn in 10 pieces of a gathered material you obtain 1k points, +1 10=10k points, 1 militia crafted item is 1k points and a +1 of a crafted is 10k points. But ya XD it's not that unbelievable of a number but still obtaining 25 stacks of a specific item isn't easy lol. Basically to reach 250k which I made up as the average minimum that may be needed to hit Top 20 you would need either 25 stacks of NQ materials, 2 and a half stacks of HQ materials, 250 NQ synths or 25 HQ synths.

For a better perspective on time needed to obtain 250k, let's say it takes about half an hour to cut 6 trees, so you can cut 12 trees an hour, half the time you can obtain spruce branches, so let's say you obtain an average of 5 a cut with a potential of 10 +1.
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240 branches or 2 stacks and 42 left over. Now to obtain 25 stacks you'd have to spend about 10hrs gathering but of course that can be reduced by obtaining +1 of said material. But still to obtain 25 stacks and spend 10hrs gathering just to make use of it in a 25hr period just so you can hit the top 20 and make use of it for 25hrs is quite a heavy cost XD.

On the crafting side with recent changes you can synth maybe 50 items using hast hands every half hour, maybe more so for crafting they could reach the 250k point in about 2hrs and 30 minutes of non-stop hasty hand synthing. However a majority of crafters will most likely take the HQ route in an attempt to reduce the amount they need since the point value is worth 10x more.

In that essence a synth could take 1-3 mins depending on how things go and including downtime in between. So with a minute per synth that 60 synths an hour which is all ended up being HQ could take 4hrs and change. At the max 3 mins a synth you're only getting 20 synth done an hour in that sense it would take you 12hrs if it all turned out to be HQ. Of course you can speed up the point process by purchasing HQ materials but when point values are reduced to 0 people aren't as willing to spend the cash if something were to come up and they couldn't take advantage of having Top 20 during that Hamlet phase.
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But ya the way Hamlet is designed atm pretty much gives it a death sentence, it'll work while people want to get stuff, but once the loot dries up people will ignore the event. Unlike Ifrit/Garuda/Moogle which can be done at any time, Hamlet can only be done if proper preparations are made, well done in the sense that if you want the best chances at obtaining loot you should supply said hamlet XD.

I just hope they can make the changes quickly since the way Hamlet stands now it's gonna die out quickly XD.

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Originally Posted by Airget

Ya I forgot to mention for those who prolly haven't had a chance to supply a Hamlet, the way it works is when you turn in 10 pieces of a gathered material you obtain 1k points, +1 10=10k points, 1 militia crafted item is 1k points and a +1 of a crafted is 10k points. But ya XD it's not that unbelievable of a number but still obtaining 25 stacks of a specific item isn't easy lol. Basically to reach 250k which I made up as the average minimum that may be needed to hit Top 20 you would need either 25 stacks of NQ materials, 2 and a half stacks of HQ materials, 250 NQ synths or 25 HQ synths.

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Ohh ok. 25 stacks is a lot for sure but a LS could combine the efforts of a few people to get one person top 20 but still, thats a lot of work. I think it took me 1.5 hr to get 1 stack which have been sitting in my inventory. From everything I hear hamlets aren't worth doing so to me, this patch is a big yawn. Had so much hope for hamlet defense but doesn't even seem like its worth doing except to get your anima back.

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

Lame..where is the weapons?...

No job adjustments either...

Okay then. :/

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Job adjustments always have been slated for 1.22b

AF weaps were not guaranteed for 1.22a.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

not in patch notes so unless ninjad in.....

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We will be adjusting the rating settings based on the fact that we will have one for each city-state. However, once these are released we would like to look into easing the ratings after we hear everyone’s feedback and take a look at the situation.

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Originally Posted by Mister-Wonderful

Job adjustments always have been slated for 1.22b

AF weaps were not guaranteed for 1.22a.

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what I gather from that post is that they want to "ease" it based on feedback slowly, very slowly.

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Originally Posted by Mister-Wonderful

Job adjustments always have been slated for 1.22b

AF weaps were not guaranteed for 1.22a.

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Good thing you cleared that up. So people can realize that it is just as hard to get level 2 until they change it after they get feedback!



i.e. No changes to Hamlet besides the bug fixes and adding more places to do Hamlet. No increase in drop rate or rate of ranking up.

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Originally Posted by SniperRifle

Did somebody say...

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...9UYoZLPlGkotyo

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No way we'd ever beat him. The key to getting past that battle would be to spam /grovel immediately upon entering and hope for the best.

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Originally Posted by Mister-Wonderful

Job adjustments always have been slated for 1.22b

AF weaps were not guaranteed for 1.22a.

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/10char

Hi All,

While I was looking forward to AF Weapons as well, I think it just gives more time for people to "appreciate" (or just collect) the new set of Garuda Weapons which are still very new to the game.

I would've liked to see some key adjustments to Hamlet Defense, but realize with Golden Week there probably isn't enough turnaround time yet.

This bug fix though is quite sad to hear (and probably the reason why my friend (and other Top 20 Provisioners received nothing for beating Hamlet). OUCH.

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An issue with hamlet defense wherein players were not being recognized as top-twenty provisioners.

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It still doesn't solve the key issues with Hamlet Defense, but it's a start for those that are Top 20 at least (so sad they had to waste their time the previous 3 rounds).

Put this in the meme thread, but thought I would express myself in this one also.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/20219919.jpg

Poo poo patch! I'm glad they put the hamlet defense (only for the anima supply turn-ins, could care less about the boring battle) in LL and Than though. I was sick of running through the cesspool Black Shroud.

Yay, I'm good, I didn't expect nothing and nothing is what we got, woohoo! I'm good =)

Edit: At least there are fixes and such and we are taking another small step forward with this patch. I'm just desperately waiting for content to sink my teeth into.

And all I wanted was a pre-nerf'd War for the Imperial Stronghold.
Guess it was never meant to be.

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Originally Posted by Matsume

so where do the crawlers cocoons come from?

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Coerthas harvesting.

Seals are from Hamlets

I'm seeing a lot of hatred for the inclusion of class specific gear, especially since the community has done nothing but whine whenever someone brings up the suggestion of abolishing classes so Square Enix can focus on balancing Jobs better. So you want classes to remain, despite the fact they aren't Final Fantasy enough for you (leading to the creation of the Job system) nor do you want them to have armor tailored for them like Jobs have JSE. It seems like complaining just for the sake of complaining.

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Originally Posted by Raymeo

Exactly, there was nothing said in the last letter. That's part of the problem. You have to go back a month and a half, because the quote is from the letter at the end of March. It says in his road map there that there is a "high likelihood of a 1.22a release" and then he says at the end of that letter that there's "a chance that job-specific weapons might have to be delayed to 1.22a or later... I'll be sure to keep you in the know on the coming progress." Fast forward an entire month and a half, two patches, and another letter from the producer, and through all of that not a single rep ever mentions a final decision for AF weapons being delayed to 1.22a, let alone that it's been put off past 1.22a now. That's how sloppy this is.

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Someone didn't read the last letter closely enough.

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In order to deliver the patch to you in time for Golden Week, I’m afraid we’ve had to postpone a number of things. These include job-exclusive weapons, chat log reforms, and other content I touched on last time.

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So they did mention that job-exclusive weapons would be delayed past 1.22. They just didn't tell us that they were delayed past 1.22a.

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Originally Posted by Isaveron

I'm seeing a lot of hatred for the inclusion of class specific gear, especially since the community has done nothing but whine whenever someone brings up the suggestion of abolishing classes so Square Enix can focus on balancing Jobs better. So you want classes to remain, despite the fact they aren't Final Fantasy enough for you (leading to the creation of the Job system) nor do you want them to have armor tailored for them like Jobs have JSE. It seems like complaining just for the sake of complaining.

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I think SE just needs to explain their thoughts behind classes at this point. Even in light parties jobs tend to be better than classes. Heck, even some jobs solo as well as their classes.

I think people are just confused about the role of classes in this game and why they need things like specific gear.

Argh! Cant find Hardened Sap. We gonna have to wait 17 hours to see if Hamlet NPCs are selling?

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Originally Posted by lshumaker

Someone didn't read the last letter closely enough.



So they did mention that job-exclusive weapons would be delayed past 1.22. They just didn't tell us that they were delayed past 1.22a.

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Oh! You got me, haha. Thanks for the correction! Fixing previous post.

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Originally Posted by Raymeo

Oh! You got me, haha. Thanks for the correction! Fixing previous post.

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No problem.

I do wish that they would've told us to not expect AF weapons in 1.22a. Oh well. They've been working hard as it is anyways.

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Originally Posted by Picoman

Argh! Cant find Hardened Sap. We gonna have to wait 17 hours to see if Hamlet NPCs are selling?

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Yea found it at Ale Port

Hmmm... anyone tried Garuda after patch yet?

And does the Live Seventh Umbral event still going on?

suprana is now supARna and the action bar is a few steps backwards. h'mmm... can't skip any phases anymore meaning we have to deal with instant-cast mistral shriek which is always fun.

Yes- Suparna is in fact the correct spelling! Chirada and Suparna are both alternate names for Garuda.

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[dev1406] Parties with one or more members synthesizing, gathering, mounted, seated, or in active mode can no longer commence content such as instanced raids, primal battles, and hamlet defense.

Oh and no job weapons.

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That's it. Worst patch game. Unsubscribing. Uninstalling. Wiping Hard drive. Throwing my computer out the window. Setting fire to the remains. Burring the ash. Building an apartment complex over the ashes. Demolishing apartment complex with dynamite. Flooding crater. Separate greater lake area from earth. Launch it into the sun. 1000 years of darkness.

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Originally Posted by Holyomen

Imperial Stronghold

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I have a theory on this....

its going to be in patch 1.23....

and the raid/fight for that patch...is gonna be INSIDE it, so youll have to fight your way to the entrance to do the fight :D

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Originally Posted by Gramul

That's it. Worst patch game. Unsubscribing. Uninstalling. Wiping Hard drive. Throwing my computer out the window. Setting fire to the remains. Burring the ash. Building an apartment complex over the ashes. Demolishing apartment complex with dynamite. Flooding crater. Separate greater lake area from earth. Launch it into the sun. 1000 years of darkness.

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still laughing. ;-)

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Originally Posted by Gramul

That's it. Worst patch game. Unsubscribing. Uninstalling. Wiping Hard drive. Throwing my computer out the window. Setting fire to the remains. Burring the ash. Building an apartment complex over the ashes. Demolishing apartment complex with dynamite. Flooding crater. Separate greater lake area from earth. Launch it into the sun. 1000 years of darkness.

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Haha, I was wondering about that too. In the middle of crafting I understand, but you can no longer enter an instance if you have a party member sitting down or mounted? Whaaaa-

Geez people.. they werent in their offices for a week, for holidays, they return..push the mini patch out a couple days later and you act like it should be another grand patch. Let's not get too carried with way irrational ideals, shall we? Bunch of spoiled children is what this looks like.

http://www.potsc.com/wp-content/uplo...03/whining.jpg