Post Your Complete Garuda Weapon Set!

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Originally Posted by viion

Think you missed the point of jelly

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It isn't something to spread on toast? Drat.

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learn a calender or something lol.

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I'm pretty sure I got the chronological order right, 27 comes before 29 comes before 30. All 3 are in the same time zone (PDT).

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Originally Posted by Raikki

It isn't something to spread on toast? Drat.

I'm pretty sure I got the chronological order right, 27 comes before 29 comes before 30. All 3 are in the same time zone (PDT).

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Here is some help for you!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_holiday

May make it clearer XD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...Workers%27_Day

Therefore, no idea what your dates mean? I dont play unless I have time, May 1st was a holiday, thus i have time to stay up night before =D can finally kill some Garuda, which I did!

Your dates mean nothing, you just want to use it against me, I guess you're just immature like that. If you want to "Win the internet" you can has it! lol.

Also, you're jelly of the blm people, otherwise idk why you're sticking your nose so far down it, why do you care so much about how others play? do you care so much when someone doesnt use same skill bar as you? Dont think so. Must be another reason why you passionately hate people doing the blm burn, what could it be, that you cant do it? That no one invites you? That you have no weapons? That your jelly?

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Originally Posted by viion

Here is some help for you!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_holiday

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Pfft... a full time job doesn't affect my ability to get server #1 on all new contents. Though GF aggro occasionally gets in the way.

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Originally Posted by viion

Here is some help for you!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_holiday

May make it clearer XD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...Workers%27_Day

Therefore, no idea what your dates mean? I dont play unless I have time, May 1st was a holiday, thus i have time to stay up night before =D can finally kill some Garuda, which I did!

Your dates mean nothing, you just want to use it against me, I guess you're just immature like that. If you want to "Win the internet" you can has it! lol.

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There was a Friday night and all weekend before that. What's your point? (and what's meowy supposed to be "jelly" of?)

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Originally Posted by viion

Here is some help for you!!
Therefore, no idea what your dates mean? I dont play unless I have time, May 1st was a holiday, thus i have time to stay up night before =D can finally kill some Garuda, which I did!

Your dates mean nothing, you just want to use it against me, I guess you're just immature like that. If you want to "Win the internet" you can has it! lol.

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I hate to actually believe that you need this spelled out for you, but those dates simply show that your completion time is suspiciously AFTER the black mage burn that you're so fond of became public.

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Originally Posted by Raikki

There was a Friday night and all weekend before that. What's your point? (and what's meowy supposed to be "jelly" of?)

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Was busy working weekend, ya know, site n all XD Plus doing some levelling, check my timeline =D

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Originally Posted by viion

Also, you're jelly of the blm people, otherwise idk why you're sticking your nose so far down it, why do you care so much about how others play? do you care so much when someone doesnt use same skill bar as you? Dont think so. Must be another reason why you passionately hate people doing the blm burn, what could it be, that you cant do it? That no one invites you? That you have no weapons? That your jelly?

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Originally Posted by Raikki

http://i.imgur.com/9bv7q.jpg

38 kills (all normal kills, no burn). 4 headdresses gifted. 5 unique from drops, 2 purchased with headdresses.

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There you go

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Originally Posted by Ragz

There you go

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Still doesnt prove anything, people who got full 50 before PL were super jelly of PLers, same principles here, i smell jelly lol

Actually, coming to think of it, it might be an ego issue, you have all these weapons, but its nothing special now, because everyone is doing it either by legit or mana burn. Just like levelling is nothing special, made people who did it a different way feel un-special.

Do you not feel special? :(

Is that why you are so against it (even tho its getting fix's so moot?) that you have to erage around to enforce your super skills to the community and try to recover some of that lost ego?

awwhh, could be it actually.

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Originally Posted by viion

Still doesnt prove anything, people who got full 50 before PL were super jelly of PLers, same principles here, i smell jelly lol

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Nah, we just trolling since we have nothing to do after pwning Garuda too much.

It is a little sad 3 of you in the LS had to come onto here and attack me lol, bring some more its a little fun because i can picture the LS chat and the rage.

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Originally Posted by viion

Do you not feel special? :(

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LOL you don't get it do you...

We don't care about what others people do after it's already been done 1000 times, there is nothing special about that at all. When you get server #1, that's special. Even if n00bs don't abuse exploits, they just wait for SE to nerf it for them anyway like they did with DH and Ifrit and Moogle and every other "new content". So you can burn your heart content and that has no affect on what we achieved. But don't go pretend that something Yoshi P said was an exploit to be a legitimate way of doing things, because it's simply not true.

Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls: The Thread.

Come on guys, just let it die.

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Originally Posted by viion

It is a little sad 3 of you in the LS had to come onto here and attack me lol, bring some more its a little fun because i can picture the LS chat and the rage.

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Oh, we don't troll on forum when we play, course we'd spend time play instead. we only trolling because we stuck at work and can't play.

Have to be entertained while sit through all these meetings.

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Originally Posted by Ragz

LOL you don't get it do you...

We don't care about what others people do after it's already been done 1000 times, there is nothing special about that at all. When you get server #1, that's special. Even if n00bs don't abuse exploits, they just wait for SE to nerf it for them anyway like they did with DH and Ifrit and Moogle and every other "new content". So you can burn your heart content and that has no affect on what we achieved. But don't go pretend that something Yoshi P said was an exploit to be a legitimate way of doing things, because it's simply not true.

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But you dont get it, my opinion of it, is that it is not an exploit, that is my opinion. I dont care what Yoshi says.

So I will defend my opinions. People go all day long saying PL IS WRONG, but Yoshi put it in, said its fine and that is what he wants, but nope people still bitch that it is WRONG!

Now before you get confused because it is likely you will.., im not comparing PL to this, I am showing that people have opinions and they express that regardless of what the "Producer" says. You just realising that now?

And it seems you really do care, if you're putting so much effort into attacking me and this thread. I care a bit because I see it sad that strategies like this are dying, i also find it sad that the testing team didn't realise this would happen.

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Originally Posted by viion

But you dont get it, my opinion of it, is that it is not an exploit, that is my opinion. I dont care what Yoshi says.

So I will defend my opinions. People go all day long saying PL IS WRONG, but Yoshi put it in, said its fine and that is what he wants, but nope people still bitch that it is WRONG!

Now before you get confused because it is likely you will.., im not comparing PL to this, I am showing that people have opinions and they express that regardless of what the "Producer" says. You just realising that now?

And it seems you really do care, if you're putting so much effort into attacking me and this thread. I care a bit because I see it sad that strategies like this are dying, i also find it sad that the testing team didn't realise this would happen.

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It's my opinion that taxes are optional. I don't care what "the man" says.

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Originally Posted by viion

But you dont get it, my opinion of it, is that it is not an exploit, that is my opinion. I dont care what Yoshi says.

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Eh.... I'd care what the head of development thinks if I was you... I mean... that's how thousands of people got banned in FFXI.

I care about it slightly more than the meeting I'm stuck in, but not as much as the lunch I would leave for in 30 minutes. So start the countdown.

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Originally Posted by viion

A license to exploit with no risk is more the reason.

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Originally Posted by viion

my opinion of it, is that it is not an exploit

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You've gotta keep your trolling consistent, otherwise we know you're just yanking our chain.

edit: it's been fun, gotta quit before it gets too stale. hope we can do this again some day~

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Originally Posted by Ragz

Eh.... I'd care what the head of development thinks if I was you... I mean... that's how thousands of people got banned in FFXI.

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But he said no one will be banned for this because they made the mistake.

:S so what is your point?

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Originally Posted by Raikki

You've gotta keep your trolling consistent, otherwise we know you're just yanking our chain.

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Read the thread, its about other people. And other people say it is exploiting, that is why everyone is doing it.

/headonwall.


Finding quotes, making shit up, ms painting pics together, "yeh i dont care", it shows!

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Originally Posted by viion

But he said no one will be banned for this because they made the mistake.

:S so what is your point?

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That you should care about what he said. If you really don't care what he says, why do you care if they going to ban or not?

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Originally Posted by Ragz

That you should care about what he said. If you really don't care what he says, why do you care if they going to ban or not?

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Huh i dont care that they are not going to ban or not, when did I say I care about that?

Infact you brought up the whole Ban issue here. There is no "Ban" element regarding Garuda, which this conversation is all about, you ok mate? :/

Dont mind if you want to argue with me but at least keep to the topic.

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Originally Posted by viion

Huh i dont care that they are not going to ban or not, when did I say I care about that?

Infact you brought up the whole Ban issue here. There is no "Ban" element regarding Garuda, which this conversation is all about, you ok mate? :/

Dont mind if you want to argue with me but at least keep to the topic.

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Just point out that it kinda important to care what the developers say, otherwise you might miss something important.

What I really don't care about is keeping to the topic though, since I'm just killing time.
Not to mention non of your last 20 post has anything to do with the topic.

Lets see the 7/7 Ifrit 7/7 Moogle!

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Originally Posted by leomax

Lets see the 7/7 Ifrit 7/7 Moogle!

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I'd show you but I already converted half of them into materias...

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Originally Posted by Ragz

Just point out that it kinda important to care what the developers say, otherwise you might miss something important.

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Its important to read what they say, caring is another thing.

Seems to me like a similar thing happened for Moogles, some thought it was ok to use the death exploit, some thought a victory should be earned. This is no different. Some people wouldn't mind trampling their own grandma for a win. More power to you, but some like to do things the honest way that they were designed to be played. This is a player's forum and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I can assure you of this, we don't waste time talking about how some people are getting cheesy wins, we have more important things to talk about, like Kevin Costner and his vegan leanings......

ITT: Players cry at BG for stacking 3 BLM for world first kill then stack more BLMs cos they can't kill her with 3. OH GOD THE IRONY HAH.

ITT: Players blatantly admit to exploiting a game mechanic (and it IS an exploit otherwise they would not be patching it) because it's easier/faster to get consistent wins.

ITT: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx...1xxfo1_250.gif

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Originally Posted by Richard_BG

ITT: Players cry at BG for stacking 3 BLM for world first kill then stack more BLMs cos they can't kill her with 3. OH GOD THE IRONY HAH.

ITT: Players blatantly admit to exploiting a game mechanic (and it IS an exploit otherwise they would not be patching it) because it's easier/faster to get consistent wins.

ITT: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx...1xxfo1_250.gif

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I still fail to see how it is an exploit. This is a fault of phase 1 mechanics and Garuda's AI being very lax when it comes to performing the steps leading up to Aerial Blast. Even you guys (along with most "standard setups") abuse the mechanic by using it to skip Phase 2 and get her as close to death as possible for phase 3. They're patching cause they didn't forsee players actually able to take her down so low/kill before she was able to Aerial Blast.

if it wasn't an exploit, and it just boiled down to player ingenuity taking battle content designers by surprise, yoshi would have just commented on how surprised they were by player strategy.

however, what actually happened was yoshi himself acknowledged a design flaw in garuda's AI in calculating HP before using aerial blast. we can prove this two easy ways: first, there's no way to skip astral flow in moogle or ifrit fights. second, we can see examples of garuda's calculation of remaining HP influencing battle mechanics both in pushing her down fast enough that she skips second plumes phase and goes straight to the third, and in pushing her down fast enough that she skips phase 2 after aerial blast. perhaps you haven't experienced the latter since you're blm burning it ;)

the fact that being successful with blm burn strategy requires working around her HP calculation check for 2nd plumes so that you can skip an obviously required element of the fight (aerial blast) is exploitative, no matter how you slice it.

i'm pretty sure that they have never in the history of this game hotfixed content just to make it more difficult. considering how many casual players play ffxiv, doing something like that would cause a shitstorm.

contagion bug @ ifrit? exploit. hotfixed.
DoL wrist flick stunlock @ ifrit? exploit. hotfixed.
die/reraise hate reset strat @ moogle? exploit. hotfixed.

and now, there's this. so.

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Originally Posted by Kikosho

I still fail to see how it is an exploit. This is a fault of phase 1 mechanics and Garuda's AI being very lax when it comes to performing the steps leading up to Aerial Blast. Even you guys (along with most "standard setups") abuse the mechanic by using it to skip Phase 2 and get her as close to death as possible for phase 3. They're patching cause they didn't forsee players actually able to take her down so low/kill before she was able to Aerial Blast.

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Skipping phase 2 is not skipping Aerial Blast. Every bug/exploit in any MMO is usually attributed to the fact that it was poorly designed by the dev team or poorly tested by the QA team. I fail to see your point as the same thing happened on Moogle. Exploitation of a poorly designed bug is still exploitation. They're patching it because it's not intended to completely negate a pivotal mechanic in her fight - which makes it ridiculously easy.

http://i.imgur.com/ibtWt.png

equating skipping 2nd plumes and/or skipping phase 2 with skipping aerial blast is... ridiculous.

she pops out far more plumes for 3rd plumes, so giving you 2nd plumes no matter what would be retarded if the HP check for astral flow was actually working as intended, as it would mean you get a break by burning her fast and end up dealing with less plumes, which means less damage to pillars and less damage taken for aerial blast.

for the same reason, forcing phase 2 after aerial blast makes no sense either since phase 3 (with 3 random mechanics) is longer and much, much harder. once again, this would give you a major break for burning her fast as it would shorten the amount of time you spend in phase 3.

two of the three HP checks in the fight are working as intended, to retain as much difficulty for the encounter as possible. the third HP check (astral flow) isn't working as intended, has been addressed by devs and yoshi, and is getting hotfixed so it will work correctly.

finishing a fight without knowledge of bugged mechanics can be chalked completely up to dev error. working around knowledge of bugged mechanics to change the desired outcome of the fight, however, is 100% exploiting. yes, the exploit exists due to developer error- but once they acknowledge the error and intent to fix it, by continuing to use strategy/mechanics to take advantage of this error is completely on the players.

and while they've said no one will be banned for it, it's pretty delusional to try to defend the exploit and/or convince yourself it's not.

Imho, I feel like the Garuda Contest should start when they patch it on May 10th... I just find it a little unfair.. for those who actually thought the time was much higher than that.. and the only reason people won WAS because of the Exploit...

That's just how I feel about it anyways..

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Imho, I feel like the Garuda Contest should start when they patch it on May 10th... I just find it a little unfair.. for those who actually thought the time was much higher than that.. and the only reason people won WAS because of the Exploit...

That's just how I feel about it anyways..

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Um no.. BG's kill wasn't with BLM burn skipping astral flow.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Imho, I feel like the Garuda Contest should start when they patch it on May 10th... I just find it a little unfair.. for those who actually thought the time was much higher than that.. and the only reason people won WAS because of the Exploit...

That's just how I feel about it anyways..

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People started using BLM burn only a few days ago, 2-3 days after patch... Garuda was defeated in the 1st 7 hours... With no "exploit" for the first few days, no idea what you talking about lol

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

Um no.. BG's kill wasn't with BLM burn skipping astral flow.

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Just stating how I feel is all. /end

lol people still whining about BLM burn?

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Originally Posted by Isaaru

lol people still whining about BLM burn?

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lol hello exploiter

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Just stating how I feel is all. /end

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your feelings are flat out wrong then. lol

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Originally Posted by Richard_BG

your feelings are flat out wrong then. lol

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Your feelings are flat out wrong too then. lol

Feelings are not always right or wrong, just stating how I feel about the whole situation, like your entitled to your feelings.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Your feelings are flat out wrong too then. lol

Feelings are not always right or wrong, just stating how I feel about the whole situation, like your entitled to your feelings.

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just pointing out that you stating that we only won the first time was due to an exploit is false. entitlement to feelings about a situation has nothing to do with facts.

If I feel like gravity doesn't exist hard enough, the apple won't fall from the tree.