I appreciate Square Enix supporting LGBT rights in FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by HollowedDoll

Nice try, Alex Jones.

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I just don't like 'em putting rainbow color aether in the lava that turn the freakin' frogs gay!

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Originally Posted by Vinupra-Rosa

And... this simply proves my point that most straight folks simply won't see the coded messages.

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The problem with this thinking is a person can imagine or fabricate whatever they want and when people call them out they can say, "oh, it's a coded message... you wouldn't understand." Or maybe it's just not there and your explanation is baseless.

Maybe SOE is referring to God's covenant to us in Genesis. What, you don't see that? Oh, you wouldn't understand. It's a coded Judeo-Christian message.

Ah shit here we go again.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Personally, as a gay guy, I'm not a fan of reading into relationships as canon unless they are explicitly mentioned as such. Anything less can simply be read into as half hearted pandering - and in addition, I'd rather see gay relationships established between adult characters rather than underage characters. I'm not inclined to obsess over the idea of a pair of teenage girls potentially getting together.

I don't see Ryne and Gaia as a couple, at any rate. They only knew each other for a very short period of time and it's already a stretch that they'd be such good friends - let alone in a relationship.

I think it would have been great to see each of them put to the sword so that Lohgrif and Mitron could be together instead. A pair of quasi-immortal beings who saw their entire world crumble around them but pushed in defiance to try and get back together is far more engaging to me than a pair of bratty teenagers whose deepest memory is splitting a biscuit in two.

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Yeah I loved the romance aspect between Lohgrif and Mitron and was upset when they didn't utilize it fully.
I loved that they went down the road of morally grey if not outright black on what a person is willing to inflict upon others to get back their other half.
And then it got generalized by the entire community as "Just let her go you creep!"

That would've been such a better ending, actual consequences to the main characters. Instead they put all that stuff on the side character dwarfs.

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Originally Posted by Vinupra-Rosa

"They're totally gay" and "They're not gay" are both valid ways to take what has been presented to us in the game, and it's best for people in either camp to just... let the other camp be. In this thread, the 'main camp' would be the people who do see the gay in the writing. No need to invalidate them with "oh you're just reaching, it's these OTHER reasons".

So leave it at that.

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You aren't doing this yourself. There are plenty of folks who have just been "I didn't read it the same way. Here's how I interpreted it" but you are SO SURE you are right that you're actively attacking and insulting those people instead of "letting the other camp be". Might want to take your own advice there.

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Originally Posted by Vinupra-Rosa

The solid facts are that there are very specific events, framed in very specific ways that very strongly hint at LGBT romance. But nothing is outright confirmed, so people are free to understand it that way, OR they can elect to ignore it.

"They're totally gay" and "They're not gay" are both valid ways to take what has been presented to us in the game, and it's best for people in either camp to just... let the other camp be. In this thread, the 'main camp' would be the people who do see the gay in the writing. No need to invalidate them with "oh you're just reaching, it's these OTHER reasons".

So leave it at that.

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To the contrary, the majority of people in this thread don't think they're in a relationship and the fence sitters think they're qeer-baiting.
Now maybe the opposition was louder which is possible or you can go count every post and add them up and I would be pleasantly surprised if the majority in this thread thought they were bi/gay/a couple.
You'll also probably want to count the views & replies and compare them to the likes on certain polarizing comments.

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I think it would have been great to see each of them put to the sword so that Lohgrif and Mitron could be together instead. A pair of quasi-immortal beings who saw their entire world crumble around them but pushed in defiance to try and get back together is far more engaging to me than a pair of bratty teenagers whose deepest memory is splitting a biscuit in two.

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See, I wouldn't have liked that part because Mitron had no care what the person that Lohgrif had become wanted or what her new life might mean to her. I thought they had a fitting ending with that almost certainty that they would meet again. I also like to think that while Gaia valued whatever relationship she had with Ryne, that she broke free to be her own person for herself. I lean towards more friendship than romantic because for me it kind of cheapens her choice if she only did it because she liked someone else rather than self-care for herself.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

See, I wouldn't have liked that part because Mitron had no care what the person that Lohgrif had become wanted or what her new life might mean to her.

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They had made a promise to always be together. The sundering is what split loghrif in the first place and made her forget. In reality, you can argue gaia is selfish for not thinking about Loghrif herself felt and that she might want to be with mitron. She was the one getting in the way of 2 people. Mitron and Loghrif were simply more casualties in the sundering created by Hydaelyn. But i still think that ending was much better than what we got, where she gives false hope of “maybe we can be together again in the future,” but then promptly forgets all about him just showing how flawed they are. Also find it hard to believe Loghrif would leave mitron over some coffee biscuits and knowing some random girl for a couple weeks at most.

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They had made a promise to always be together. The sundering is what split loghrif in the first place and made her forget. In reality, you can argue gaia is selfish for not thinking about Loghrif herself felt and that she might want to be with mitron. She was the one getting in the way of 2 people. Mitron and Loghrif were simply more casualties in the sundering created by Hydaelyn. But i still think that ending was much better than what we got, where she gives false hope of “maybe we can be together again in the future,” but then promptly forgets all about him just showing how flawed they are. Also find it hard to believe Loghrif would leave mitron over some coffee biscuits and knowing some random girl for a couple weeks at most.

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So are we just puppets of whatever Azem might have desired in the past?

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

So are we just puppets of whatever Azem might have desired in the past?

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That's actually why the storyline is so interesting and why it's even harder understand why people believe that Gaia and Ryne are a couple.
Gaia on an individual level is dealing with a madman who she doesn't remember trying to destroy everything her current self holds dear, herself included in his attempts to get back a previous version/reincarnation of herself.
Now that alone is conviction enough to defend yourself and warrant some self improvement but people prefer the alternative which is "She give me biscuit, I go now to flick bean!"

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So are we just puppets of whatever Azem might have desired in the past?

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Well that’s the moral dilemma. It’s really all about perspective which even the devs agree on. To Mitron, he made a promise to Loghrif and vice versa, to always be together. Gaia is essential an amnesiac version of Loghrif so of course he would try to restore her memories and erase the ones he deemed as fake and coping. Gaia lived at the expense of Mitron and Loghrif’s happiness. That’s the tragedy of it all really. Honestly it’s why i kind of dislike Ryne’s involvement in that story period. It would’ve been much nicer if we got more insight on Mitron himself along with Loghrif rather than Ryne and her coffee biscuit/shopping shenanigans. Anyways though on topic, that’s why i find it so weird when people say they’re together or whatever. Even Gaia expressed that, however flawed the idea itself may be, her and Mitron would most likely find each other again. So she’s at least acknowledging those feelings. For me i see Ryne and Gaia’s relationship no more than simply a friendship of two girls around the same age. It’s even mentioned early on that Ryne didn’t really know anyone around her own age besides the twins, so Gaia was probably a refreshing sight.

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If hypothetically one day say Yoshi-P says that yes, the relationship between Ryne and Gaia is indeed romantic in nature, does it really change any lore of FFXIV in any way or making it "murky"? Will it make any story beats we see during, before, or after Eden storyline become suddenly incoherent, because of that one change? In what why do you suggest that one change will make the lore/story incoherent?

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Few thousand years old female who helped to kill her boyfriend and few millions but has body of a teen now shipped with kid with oracle powers and magical combat prowess. Seems right and dandy.

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Few thousand years old female who helped to kill her boyfriend and few millions but has body of a teen now shipped with kid with oracle powers and magical combat prowess. Seems right and dandy.

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Don’t forget the part where said kid with oracle powers has a fight where she strips naked and has a dragon run all over her body….yeah…

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Don’t forget the part where said kid with oracle powers has a fight where she strips naked and has a dragon run all over her body….yeah…

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I havent played shiva since forever but,yeah iforgot
Still, shipping few thousands years old ex genocide architect with a child oracle who hates said genocide architects is quite fun

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That's actually why the storyline is so interesting and why it's even harder understand why people believe that Gaia and Ryne are a couple.
Gaia on an individual level is dealing with a madman who she doesn't remember trying to destroy everything her current self holds dear, herself included in his attempts to get back a previous version/reincarnation of herself.
Now that alone is conviction enough to defend yourself and warrant some self improvement but people prefer the alternative which is "She give me biscuit, I go now to flick bean!"

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Completely agree. Gaia/Lohgrif choosing it for self-improvement is a much more interesting story for me than her doing it just for some other person.

It is disheartening that people still think they're "just" friends.

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"She give me biscuit, I go now to flick bean!"

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The way the "anti-lgbt people" are so quick to reduce everything LGBT people are down to sex acts is really disturbing. That's literally all you think about, isn't it?

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Okay, I have to clear up some misconceptions people have about the Ryne/Gaia story. While *yes* it was decidedly crafted in a manner so subtle that it can be passed off as platonic by those who don't care or don't look closely, it is pretty obviously a queer story. Let me point to two things breaking down authorial intent:

1) The soft confirmation: E12:

The final Eden fight has us reliving multiple memories between specifically Gaia and Ryne in an attempt to save her memories and self-identity. There are many ways to lampshade this as "the power of friendship," but when you pull back and look at stuff like the Tsukuyomi fight, several things emerge that make this kind of odd if that was what they were going for.

a) The Tsukuyomi fight uses a multifaceted approach to displaying its themes, running through Tsuyu's parents, brother, Zenos, and total strangers. Gaia's memories are specifically limited to her interactions with Ryne. If power of close friendship were the theme, they could have made it less focused on a singular person. Gaia is *fixated* on Ryne.
b) The memories the Eden fight takes you through are...pretty mundane and boring. Like...not very interesting scenes to watch or have replay (like grabbing coffee). They just aren't exciting from a "friendship" storytelling perspective. But if you view them as romantic scenes, suddenly they become more significant as not only more intimate, but memories that a person with romantic feelings would tend to focus on more.
c) The Tsukuyomi fight carries some pretty serious themes of abuse and trauma. Eden fight themes seem pretty lightweight (borderline insipid) by comparison when viewed through just a "friendship" lense. But make it a coming out story between for a woman with a history of self-identity issues and man problems (to find sanctuary in a relationship with a woman with a parallel history)...that's about on par with Tsuyu's story.

You couuuuuld still view this as just one of those really deep connections between platonic friends. But I would argue that:

a) The events we follow between the two friends are really, really boring writing for a video game if it is *just* about friendship.
b) Gaia is kind of hard to be friends with. The basis for their friendship is pretty thin unless you infer some element of physical attraction.
c) Again, the way Gaia's memories are written are oddly skewed to be *fixated* on Ryne to a degree more than friendship.
d) (Similarly, if we view all this from Ryne's perspective, she spends a LOT of time trying to bend over backwards and develop a relationship with Gaia, despite Gaia being kind of a bench and disinterested. I'm sure a lot of this is Ryne projecting her own insecurities and need for connection and trying to save people. But regardless of motivation, she does seem to develop a similar level of obsession.)

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2) The Hard Confirmation: FF8 Ending:

I think many people trying to completely shut down this interpretation (aside from the low-key homophobes) either have not played through and appreciated FF8 in its entirety (easily the most ambitious and thematically rich writing in the entire series, even if it didn't always stick the landing) or simply completely missed the very clear parallels. The ending of the Eden raids is a shot for shot recreation of the FF8 ending where Squall realizes he loves Rinoa. There is absolutely no reason for the devs to do something so specific without intending to draw clear romantic parallels. Gaia is very clearly walking a stand-in for Squall, and Ryne is practically named the same as Rinoa. To anyone arguing that they are underage: Squall and Rinoa are both 17 in FF8 and their relationship is fairly chaste, just like Gaia's and Ryne's. It's young love.

The way I see it, the Eden raids are designed to be a sort of puzzle-box. You spend so much time watching this pretty underwhelming and frankly perplexing friendship between two people who seem pretty incompatible as friends, as well as the memory flashbacks. Wondering why and how this "friendship" is even working and why the writers are spending so much time on it. And then the final scene acts as the "aha!" moment (not just for the viewer, but for Gaia as well), where everything before is recontextualized and you realize that we were watching the beginnings of a relationship. It wasn't just coffee (which, I still hold if it was only coffee, probably the most useless plot arc in the whole game), it was a date.

And yeah, the plausible deniability remains for conservatives to ignore it. But I think this is one of the queerest stories a video game could tell without spelling it out for the viewer. I personally think it is possibly one of the most brilliant things the game has done, as good as the main SHB story and imo just a tad better than the fantastic Werlyt arc. Not only as a matter of very subtle writing, but for writing a queer couple realistically, making it about the little interactions and building toward common goals rather than hyperromanticizing or hypersexualizing it.

I understand if people get more from interpreting the story as a strong bond of friendship. I think creating spaces for very flamboyant platonic relationships is just as important as expanding LGBT recognition. But completely dismissing (and so caustically) what was pretty blatantly a queer-coded story I think speaks more to your level of literacy, empathy, and general level of social experience than whether the OP is trolling. Every day I see evidence that these forums are the gutters of the FF community.

Daddy Sev, out.

I think it is weird you are seeing an underage girl and a person who lost their memories as love interests. I saw them only as good friends.

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I think it is weird you are seeing an underage girl and a person who lost their memories as love interests. I saw them only as good friends.

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Did you even read?

Rinoa was underage in FF8. So was Squall. Chaste, young love. Next.

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Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse

Did you even read?

Rinoa was underage in FF8. So was Squall. Chaste, young love. Next.

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Doesn't change the fact that they're underage, even if both are ?

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Correct me if i’m wrong but the scene they mirrored was the ending scene of ff8 correct? Where squall was wondering around etc? At that point Squall already knew he loved Rinoa. He knew that by the time he went to rescue her from the sorceress memorial. In fact the first time he really accepts his feelings is after she’s been in the coma and he literally takes her body and carries her by himself. That’s when he realizes and accepts his love for her. Because we even have a scene after that where he admits he’d do anything for her should she turn evil etc etc.I really think people read far too much into this storyline in terms of the relationship and i say this as a gay person. I remember when two girls could hang out and go have sleepovers or go shopping together or paint each other’s nails without being labeled as “omg they must totally be in love.” The way i see it, they’re simply two good friends due to their similar circumstances and events they went through.

You're certainly welcome to interpret it that way... Severian is still right though.

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It is disheartening that people still think they're "just" friends.

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It's disheartening that you're necroing a bunch of old 'edgy' 'argumentative' threads just to re-ignite the flames. I know it's hard, but stop, breathe, and try again. Don't let the anxiety or obsession over these threads get the better of you.

If you cannot do that by yourself, ask for help. It's not healthy to be hanging on to silly things like discussion thread arguments for three months or more. In fact, it's decidedly un-healthy. Your doctor should be able to discuss this with you.

Have you had CBT? Perhaps look into it. It helped me not get stuck on internal 'loops' of obsession as much as I did before the classes. It's just silly/easy methods, too. Like when you're stuck on an obsessive loop, look around the room and name ten objects and the colors of those objects, out loud. Loop gone, at least temporarily. Some times permanently.

Good luck, I know the fight isn't easy.

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The way the "anti-lgbt people" are so quick to reduce everything LGBT people are down to sex acts is really disturbing. That's literally all you think about, isn't it?

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Have seen the parades? The case is easy to make when you have people dressed in fetish gear parading around in front of children.

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The giant rainbow rock amidst them fighting to be together through an entire story arc is, still, pretty on the head about it. Can't really get more direct than that, without them just straight up saying it. .

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it is a rock representing the colours of the 6 main elements.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Correct me if i’m wrong but the scene they mirrored was the ending scene of ff8 correct? Where squall was wondering around etc? At that point Squall already knew he loved Rinoa. He knew that by the time he went to rescue her from the sorceress memorial. In fact the first time he really accepts his feelings is after she’s been in the coma and he literally takes her body and carries her by himself. That’s when he realizes and accepts his love for her. Because we even have a scene after that where he admits he’d do anything for her should she turn evil etc etc.I really think people read far too much into this storyline in terms of the relationship and i say this as a gay person. I remember when two girls could hang out and go have sleepovers or go shopping together or paint each other’s nails without being labeled as “omg they must totally be in love.” The way i see it, they’re simply two good friends due to their similar circumstances and events they went through.

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I think there's more nuance to it than that. Squall is very stoic and mostly duty-motivated. For most of the game, he (outwardly) doesn't seem very reciprocating of Rinoa's interest; he just passively accepts her approaches. Even when he carries her and afterward, and pledges loyalty to protect her, that seems to be mostly or at least equally duty-driven. And that makes sense that he would rationalize his feelings as responsibility for others. While I think it is up to interpretation as to precisely when Squall realizes he has feelings for Rinoa, I think the ending makes the strongest case for his epiphany given that I believe it is the first time we really see evidence of walls being broken down. I personally think this may have been what the writers were going for with Squall's general personal/relationship arc and resolution. But it's not the clearest so I don't think either of our interpretations are totally invalid.

I actually think the parallel with Gaia is even stronger in that respect. Ryne is throwing herself at Gaia in the same nonserious way Rinoa did to Squall. Gaia is rebuffing and preoccupied with greater things just like Squall did. Neither couple really realizes they have a thing for each other for most of the story. It's only at the climax of their arc that the Squall/Gaia half realizes they have romantic feelings.

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Originally Posted by NatePride

it is a rock representing the colours of the 6 main elements.

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There is no reason why it can't be both.

And again, I am frankly stunned at how dense some people are on these forums. The crystal is pretty much the punctuation point at the end of a romantically-coded scene between two same-gendered people. It's like no one has ever heard of writing so deft as to weave several different stories/themes/symbols together in a way that conveys entirely new ideas. The juxtaposition is literally hitting you in the head with a hammer. I'm pretty sure they could have both hopped on a unicorn down a yellow brick road and people would still be asserting no homo.

ok mr catman, who is the sole authority on what constitutes as gay or not, let's ignore the multiple gay and lesbian people in this and the other thread that completely disagree with your viewpoint because we're just dense and don't understand it, please teach me more about my sexuality and how two friends who've basically just met each other are clearly very deeply in love with each other and not just getting to know each other

Tbh, i’m fine with people having their headcanon on certain story elements. Like if people want to headcanon that they’re a couple for whatever reason, that’s perfectly fine imo. The thing that gets to me is when people start saying it factually when there in all honesty is very little pointing in that direction. Like the crystal theme. Yes, a rainbow has lgbt inspiration, however they give a very real, 100% not shoe horned reason as to why it’s a rainbow in not only the eden questline, but also the msq in matoya’s dungeon. The lava in matoya’s dungeon is rainbow colored because of the aether and elements. This doesn’t mean Matoya is turning the frogs gay~ If these two were in a relationship i really don’t think they would beat around the bush. They’ve already come out with numerous examples of gay or bi couples and they just went out and said it. The couple in the wanderer’s palace questline comes to mind along with the girl at camp bronze lake. All in all i really don’t think from a canon perspective they’re together. I think if anything there’s more pointing to gaia’s underlying feelings for mitron shining through more than there is romantic feelings for ryne and even that’s pretty small. I understand people want representation but we have it in other ways and maybe in the future we’ll get more of it and i’m sure when that happens it will be explicitly stated. I’m just tired of this debate overall of these two poor girls lmao. They just wanna eat coffee biscuits in peace xD

So any rainbow is lgbt now ? Good to know.
Like lgbt own a natural phenoma now and you can't use it for anything that is not lgbt related.

There is another rather important point all the naysayers seem to be missing.

The ORDER of the colors on the crystal. They didn't have to be lined up exactly like the pride flag (and yes they are in the EXACT order. Not even reversed with violet on top). In fact, there were two BETTER ways to do it if we wanted to make a less conventional rainbow in-keeping with in-game lore:

Elemental wheel: violet-red-amber-cyan-blue-green (or some rotation of that)
Order restored (which I think should be the stronger argument): blue-amber-violet-red/green-cyan.

The fact that the game takes neither of these approaches certainly weakens the argument that it is *just* elemental crystal.

ALSO in this particular rainbow, we have a pretty significant band of yellow that doesn't correspond to any of the elements. So the design quite literally is pulling from more than just the six elements as defined by the game.

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The thing that gets to me is when people start saying it factually when there in all honesty is very little pointing in that direction. Like the crystal theme.

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This is really poor literary analysis, frankly. Nothing in Matoya's cave or the story surrounding it creates a context where a rainbow might mean something else.

The Eden raids craft two stories in parallel that both contextualize the crystal:

1) The restoration of the empty.
2) The development of Gaia and Ryne's relationship (friendship, romance, whatever it is).

Both are built up over time, and in particular the latter is absolutely at the forefront of contextualizing everything in that story arc. The rainbow crystal at the end pretty much acts as a stamp at the end of the story signaling completion. The fact that it is at the end of a same-sex relationship seems pretty on the nose to me as to what the devs were intending, and it proves to be very elegant writing.

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how two friends who've basically just met each other are clearly very deeply in love with each other and not just getting to know each other

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There are many stages and forms of romance and many ways to tell that story. I never said they were deeply in love. So please continue to mischaracterize me just like you are the entire Eden raid.

Also, what is it with you people and lacking legibility? Capitalization and punctuation, please.

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ok mr catman, who is the sole authority on what constitutes as gay or not

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Also, I'm not the one saying what can and can't be gay. That would in fact be you.

I've been observing the ambiguity and subtely of the story and its various interpretations. You are the one insisting on a single interpretation that happens to be gay-exclusionary.

I think it‘s okay to have your own headcanon, but until it gets confirmed it‘s basically just that - fanfiction/headcanon.
I just don‘t know how to feel about people obsessing over it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Also, I'm not the one saying what can and can't be gay. That would in fact be you.

I've been observing the ambiguity and subtely of the story and its various interpretations. You are the one insisting on a single interpretation that happens to be gay-exclusionary.

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Lmao you're the one making assumptions based on what you believe, nothing more than that.

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There is another rather important point all the naysayers seem to be missing.

The ORDER of the colors on the crystal. They didn't have to be lined up exactly like the pride flag (and yes they are in the EXACT order. Not even reversed with violet on top). In fact, there were two BETTER ways to do it if we wanted to make a less conventional rainbow in-keeping with in-game lore:

Elemental wheel: violet-red-amber-cyan-blue-green (or some rotation of that)
Order restored (which I think should be the stronger argument): blue-amber-violet-red/green-cyan.

The fact that the game takes neither of these approaches certainly weakens the argument that it is *just* elemental crystal.

ALSO in this particular rainbow, we have a pretty significant band of yellow that doesn't correspond to any of the elements. So the design quite literally is pulling from more than just the six elements as defined by the game.



This is really poor literary analysis, frankly. Nothing in Matoya's cave or the story surrounding it creates a context where a rainbow might mean something else.

The Eden raids craft two stories in parallel that both contextualize the crystal:

1) The restoration of the empty.
2) The development of Gaia and Ryne's relationship (friendship, romance, whatever it is).

Both are built up over time, and in particular the latter is absolutely at the forefront of contextualizing everything in that story arc. The rainbow crystal at the end pretty much acts as a stamp at the end of the story signaling completion. The fact that it is at the end of a same-sex relationship seems pretty on the nose to me as to what the devs were intending, and it proves to be very elegant writing.



There are many stages and forms of romance and many ways to tell that story. I never said they were deeply in love. So please continue to mischaracterize me just like you are the entire Eden raid.

Also, what is it with you people and lacking legibility? Capitalization and punctuation, please.

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The order of the colors on the crystal is literally the colors of the spectrum from ultraviolet to red, seen through a prism, which existed LONG before the pride flag.

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So just queerbaiting. And look they even added a rainbow colored crystal. Thanks for the exploitation SE, real classy.

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You know ppl can be friends without being lovers or any romantic connections, right? Queerbaiting is a pretty terrible term made up, it makes yall sound like ppl in the 90s that called ppl gay for being the same sex and good friends

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The order of the colors on the crystal is literally the colors of the spectrum from ultraviolet to red, seen through a prism, which existed LONG before the pride flag.

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Completely missed the point.

The elements as they are arranged in XIV do not follow a prismatic rainbow. Not in any "order" they are presented in.

So the decision to line them up that way is not only arbitrary, but also somewhat *against* what the colors actually represent in game.

This is some cork board theory crafting.

"Hey i want to help my community to get more acceptance, let's insult the majority again and again until it works"
I've never get this mindset, you're the minority within a minority ( western world ) and you act all cocky about being right and how others are dumbs and useless.
Keep doing that i'm pretty sure you would change a lot of mentality that way ( No you wont, only increase any ressentful feelings one might have about the community you try to help, good job ? )
Hopefully ppl like you are not the lgbt standard which is full of wonderful ppl, but like everything it gots its bad apples.

In the end, did the rainbow-colored crystal add or subtract anything?
If they made it intentionally interpretable either way, that's fine. It means they let go of the story's "ownership" and transfer it to the reader.

This is called "death of the author" and means that no one interpretation is right.