I realized none of the FFXIV races appeal to me, anyone else?

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

The only animation that is "disrecpectuf" is the female midlander run animation. Why they gotta swing their arms that way? XD

Anyway, most women irl have hips/butts bigger than their heads, if they didn't, childbirth would be rather difficult.
Cats rub their faces against one another, and sniff each other's butts, so I am not sure if rubbing horns would be any worse :P

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I don't know where you live to see girls with asses bigger than their heads... Maybe in some lost dimension of Super Mario Bros.

Bringing up the behavior of cats in real life, I don't know... I prefer that to having psoriasis and crawling up the walls. But to each his own.

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Originally Posted by Omymy

Bringing up the behavior of cats in real life, I don't know... I prefer that to having psoriasis and crawling up the walls. But to each his own.

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1. Climbing up walls is totally cool, like Spiderman and
2. My father-in-law has psoriasis, it looks nothing like Au Ra scales, and what you said is a bit douchey to those that do have it.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

1. Climbing up walls is totally cool, like Spiderman and
2. My father-in-law has psoriasis, it looks nothing like Au Ra scales, and what you said is a bit douchey to those that do have it.

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My cat-in-law sniffs butts so i find your commentary kinda douchey, teehee.

I love Viera, even with the so far limited hair options. My one peeve is how stiff the ears are. They should twitch and move, maybe flop. I'd love to see an option where one ear is bent and one is up, too. But otherwise, Viera are gorgeous, elegant and I love their emotes.

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Originally Posted by Omymy

My cat-in-law sniffs butts so i find your commentary kinda douchey, teehee.

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The only race that really appeals to me in a way the others don't is Viera, but they're unfinished/limited and seemingly likely to stay that way... so it's back to cycling between cat and au ra for me. I do like them, but something always has me wanting to change things up after a few months. Maybe residual altaholism... Playing the same character for too long starts to feel boring for me, whether I can swap classes at will or not.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

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Gosh I would kill a man for a male elezen face that doesn't look drawn in like their breakfast is Pepsi and a cig

Or ya know, that crazy baby face.

So I started playing just last year and had a similar issue. I was on the trial account and couldn’t make an Au Ra... but when I saw them in-game I was totally in love with them.

I don’t find the females to be too cute, tbh. I mean they are cute but they still look like they could rip you a new one. They don’t look all that young though. I never got teenage vibes from them and I’m a bit surprised that other people make that comment. They are just short women.

Anyway, I picked up ARR + HW when it was free prior to ShB launching. Made an Xaela male right away and I’ve never once considered changing him.

And since I never use headgear in games, even when there isn’t an issue with the helm, I just don’t like it. So the horn clipping was never an issue for me. I also think I chose an unpopular horn style and skin tone, so I look very unique compared to most other Xaela males.

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Originally Posted by Omymy

They're deformed. Their asses are bigger than their heads, that look lost in the void like soulless beings, that is... To show affection they rub their horns. It's aberrant.

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They are petite, feminine; very pretty. They make for great glamours, but admittedly head 1 at least is really.. off.. if you don't use specific hairs. That's why you usually see me with the same hair on au ra..

it took me a little while to figure out what i really wanted and it took some time for the pros and cons to really sink in for me

elezen -
+tall
+good variety of faces
+thin but not too thin

-stiff animations
-lanky kong limbs don't look good in glams that expose the arm/legs
-tiny pea head not properly proportioned to the rest of the body (irl most adult humans are about 7.5 or 8 heads tall)
-most helmets look bad with elezen ears

au'ra
+tall
+good variety of faces
+athletic build


-horns tied to face
-hair clips with horns
-animations on males make them look like they're running with a load of shit in their pants
-tails clip with some glams

midlander -
+stock race, pretty hard to screw one of these up, can be short or tall

-stiff animations
-male highlanders have no eyebrows still

miqote
+more or less humans with cat ears and tails
+decent height
/decent animations

-hard to make one that doesnt look light in the loafers
-tails clip through clothes

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Originally Posted by grinkdaboy

elezen -
-tiny pea head not properly proportioned to the rest of the body (irl most adult humans are about 7.5 or 8 heads tall)

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I know everyone likes to complain about Elezen head proportions, but I think the reason for it is that if you made them in "human-like" proportion to their bodies, their heads would then be proportionately larger than that of an average-height race if you had them in a scene together.

The "humans are eight heads tall" rule doesn't count for Elezen because they are intended to look taller than humans. If you just scaled them up and kept human proportions then it wouldn't have the same effect.

(One of my alts is a female Roegadyn and they're more or less in that boat - quite human-proportioned and not especially tall-looking when seen on their own, but put them next to an average human and they're big - whereas Elezen inherently look tall and thin.)

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

They are petite, feminine; very pretty. They make for great glamours, but admittedly head 1 at least is really.. off.. if you don't use specific hairs. That's why you usually see me with the same hair on au ra..

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Petite its an okay thing, femenine... Nah, more fragile than other thing. Thats why female au ra tanks seems so goofy for me.

Miqo girls are way better in all aspects tho.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I know everyone likes to complain about Elezen head proportions, but I think the reason for it is that if you made them in "human-like" proportion to their bodies, their heads would then be proportionately larger than that of an average-height race if you had them in a scene together.

The "humans are eight heads tall" rule doesn't count for Elezen because they are intended to look taller than humans. If you just scaled them up and kept human proportions then it wouldn't have the same effect.

(One of my alts is a female Roegadyn and they're more or less in that boat - quite human-proportioned and not especially tall-looking when seen on their own, but put them next to an average human and they're big - whereas Elezen inherently look tall and thin.)

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so what you're saying is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGRv8Zu1fU8

This is one area where my detachment to main characters in games actually helps me - I'm more the observer type in the real world.

Because I never see myself as the actual warrior of light - and by extension playable characters nothing more than interesting vessels that carry out my ruminations - I can play any race with very little care for appearances and glam.

I guess it's something.

I'm in the same boat. I'm unhappy with all the female character models (and I'm female myself) so I lean more towards male character models.

My issue is I can't stay on one race for a long time, though I don't like Hrothgar. I'm an au'ra ATM, and hope to stay this way for a while.

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Originally Posted by grinkdaboy

so what you're saying is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGRv8Zu1fU8

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I don't like to follow YouTube links if people don't say what it is they're linking.

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Originally Posted by Frosthaven

This is one area where my detachment to main characters in games actually helps me - I'm more the observer type in the real world.

Because I never see myself as the actual warrior of light - and by extension playable characters nothing more than interesting vessels that carry out my ruminations - I can play any race with very little care for appearances and glam.

I guess it's something.

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Detachment isn't quite the right word, I think (I do get emotionally attached!), and I do spend a lot of time playing around with their outfits, but I do see the characters I play as "not me" and as separate characters. I'm used to playing games with pre-set characters that you just take up the role of, and this is no different except I'm having to invent the details of their personalities.

I think this might be why I'm not bothered by the "lack of options" that people see in the character creator - yes there could be some additional things we get to choose, but there is more than enough freedom to come up with a range of interesting character designs. I'm not usually trying to create something in such detail that I need more options, I just put the character together then work out who they are from there.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Detachment isn't quite the right word, I think (I do get emotionally attached!), and I do spend a lot of time playing around with their outfits, but I do see the characters I play as "not me" and as separate characters. I'm used to playing games with pre-set characters that you just take up the role of, and this is no different except I'm having to invent the details of their personalities.

I think this might be why I'm not bothered by the "lack of options" that people see in the character creator - yes there could be some additional things we get to choose, but there is more than enough freedom to come up with a range of interesting character designs. I'm not usually trying to create something in such detail that I need more options, I just put the character together then work out who they are from there.

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That's a pretty good re-framing, as I too adore the characters and the story. Thanks for the expanded thought!

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

The only animation that is "disrecpectuf" is the female midlander run animation. Why they gotta swing their arms that way? XD

Anyway, most women irl have hips/butts bigger than their heads, if they didn't, childbirth would be rather difficult.
Cats rub their faces against one another, and sniff each other's butts, so I am not sure if rubbing horns would be any worse :P

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The female midlander run is great stop hating it. D:

The only big let-downs for me when it comes to the races are:

a) The Duskwight. Dark elves have been my MMO/RPG go-to since Everquest, and while I tried to love my Duskwight, the proportions were all wrong so I had to abandon her :(
b) I kinda wish that the Miqo'Te had remained a female-only race, as originally intended. But I have my Viera now, so this is no longer an issue (male Miqo'te creepers in the MSQ notwithstanding).

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I don't like to follow YouTube links if people don't say what it is they're linking.

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basically what i mean to be saying with that youtube link (which i assure you is completely and totally work safe) is that it looks bad on purpose and there's steps you can take to sort of diminish it but in the end it's still bad

I decided on race mainly based on what class I plan to be. I kind of settled on focusing Dark Knight, Paladin and Summoner. I think Elezen are one of the few classes that make for a appropriate looking caster and an imposing tank because of their height (in the right armor).

Other classes I felt could work are Hyur and Miqote. Hyur is kind of basic and boring, though, and Miqote are too short and too popular; seeing them everywhere makes me want to be one less.

I'm quite happy with my Miqo'te. And as much as they are popular, I actually never saw the exact copy of my character. Maybe it is so due to the fact males are not as popular as females, and Moon Keeper males are even less popular. I do see characters with same face model of course, but some face options are always different. And well... it goes more to the customization issue than to the race itself anyway.

If male Miqo'te were not a thing, I would probably play either Mindlander or Lalafell. Overall I'm okay with races we have, even though I'm not a fan of their decision on one-gender races.

I want to be a female Elezen. Problem is, They just lack details and look like mannequins that have yet to be air-brushed. There is no natural flush/ freckles/ real detail to them. Several of the faces they have have no nostril detailing, as if it was forgotten entirely. You can only apply 1 type of face paint- you either do eye shadow or blush or freckles- you cannot do all 3 for some really strange reason. Miqo'te atleast some some sort of detailing. Lalafells are so small, you can barely see their detailing. Fem Roe's have such masculine/ frat-boy emotes- I hate it. Why is it because of their size, they have to have masculine emotes? Female Au Ra VS Male Au Ra: 1st off, why is there such a huge gap in size difference? Why do female Au Ra look like Skyrim Skeevers? Why do male Au RA look like Keanu Reeves on a screen with bad resolution? Why can't we change their horns? Female & male Hyur are similar as far as lack of detailing AND WHERE IS THE CHEST HAIR? WHAT BOUT HIGHLANDER EYEBROWS?
Viera have the most aesthetic facial detailing out of all of the races but their lack of being able to wear hats is a huge negative. Hrothgar look like the Dollar Store brand of FFX's Ronso. I can understand why all of the races are unappealing, there is such a lack of beauty to the characters we play VS the NPC's who get to have styles & unique looks of their own.

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Originally Posted by purgatori

The only big let-downs for me when it comes to the races are:

a) The Duskwight. Dark elves have been my MMO/RPG go-to since Everquest, and while I tried to love my Duskwight, the proportions were all wrong so I had to abandon her :(
b) I kinda wish that the Miqo'Te had remained a female-only race, as originally intended. But I have my Viera now, so this is no longer an issue (male Miqo'te creepers in the MSQ notwithstanding).

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I agree with You, and I liked my Lineage II Elves.

I know that some people enjoy Elezen as they are now, but those people are in minority for a good reason

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Originally Posted by purgatori

The only big let-downs for me when it comes to the races are:

a) The Duskwight. Dark elves have been my MMO/RPG go-to since Everquest, and while I tried to love my Duskwight, the proportions were all wrong so I had to abandon her :(
b) I kinda wish that the Miqo'Te had remained a female-only race, as originally intended. But I have my Viera now, so this is no longer an issue (male Miqo'te creepers in the MSQ notwithstanding).

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i look forward to seeing you squirm when male viera are eventually added

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Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams

Solution: Give us more customization options.

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I don't understand why SE doesn't put more focus on expanding character creation. If they released four new base-faces for all races, SE would make a fortune overnight on Fantasia purchases. They are not cheap at all.

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Originally Posted by Alaeacus

I don't understand why SE doesn't put more focus on expanding character creation. If they released four new base-faces for all races, SE would make a fortune overnight on Fantasia purchases. They are not cheap at all.

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They already make a fortune off fantasias by not doing anything - look at viera/hrothgar.

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Originally Posted by purgatori

I kinda wish that the Miqo'Te had remained a female-only race, as originally intended. But I have my Viera now, so this is no longer an issue (male Miqo'te creepers in the MSQ notwithstanding).

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What do you have against male miqo'te?

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

What do you have against male miqo'te?

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"Call me a jerk, but don't call all men a jerk because of me."

Male Miqo'te in this case.

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Originally Posted by grinkdaboy

i look forward to seeing you squirm when male viera are eventually added

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IF they get added.
But hey, who knows right?

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

What do you have against male miqo'te?

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I don't have anything I specifically dislike more about male Miqo'te. When I referred to "male Miqo'te" creepers, I had one specific Miqo'te in mind, but I wanted to avoid MSQ spoilers, so I didn't name him.

Though it looks like that list might have grown by one:

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Originally Posted by grinkdaboy

i look forward to seeing you squirm when male viera are eventually added

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Awww, do ya? It's nice to have dreams.

I see that the unfortunate trend continues - where certain posters playing female characters seek to limit the options for those of us who play male characters out of spite and/or bizarre personal hangups.

Hmm,

To me I really like Huyr, Elezen & Au'ra.

One thing that slightly annoys me is that there are so many catgirls running about (and quite some female au'ra too). I wish there was more diversity, especially femroe and male roes there need to be more off.

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Originally Posted by Fhaerron

Hmm,One thing that slightly annoys me is that there are so many catgirls running about

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Originally Posted by Fhaerron

Also, weak bait. I do however appreciate the effort.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I see that the unfortunate trend continues - where certain posters playing female characters seek to limit the options for those of us who play male characters out of spite and/or bizarre personal hangups.

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If only stubble got the same amount of attention as female centric issues!

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Originally Posted by Omymy

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Revenge of The Au Ra!

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Revenge of The Au Ra!

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Uhg... lizards.

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Originally Posted by purgatori

The only big let-downs for me when it comes to the races are:

a) The Duskwight. Dark elves have been my MMO/RPG go-to since Everquest, and while I tried to love my Duskwight, the proportions were all wrong so I had to abandon her :(
b) I kinda wish that the Miqo'Te had remained a female-only race, as originally intended. But I have my Viera now, so this is no longer an issue (male Miqo'te creepers in the MSQ notwithstanding).

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And some people wish they had never added female Viera, since they see them as boring plastic dolls with bunny ears that add little to the game roster.

Can't please everyone.

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Hope they never release male auras with bunny ears, i mean, male vieras.