Servers are full. Grats JP/GMT players. NA = Screwed.

Yeah, I'm one of the people that's up set. Why are all the damn servers full already?! This has to be a mistake of some kind maybe? I need my second char on the same sever and now that's not gonna happen.

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Originally Posted by Mrfox0707

Yeah, I'm one of the people that's up set. Why are all the damn servers full already?! This has to be a mistake of some kind maybe? I need my second char on the same sever and now that's not gonna happen.

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i dont think its a mistake, i think its going exactly as the original peramters they set say its supposed to go

but nothing is going to prevent them from opening up more spots so that the servers will allow more transfers, not like we dont have almost 3 weeks to do it still...

Because people chose giving inactive priority over active so there is no where to switch to.

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Originally Posted by MakiMakaa

It's only fair we get to choose first since we pay more =D

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>.<

That is exactly what option 4 would have given us. And everyone moaned and cried against it.

Yet one of the arguments everyone was making was 'oh what about the poor players who went on vacation and they come back and find they are on another server. QQQQQ'

So happy victory! You have won the battle for the inactives and those on a month long vacation! Enjoy!

Sadly some people didn't make it to the servers they wanted to go to maybe in the near future they will add more servers and it will help some and also more people will join which is healthy for any game. On a good note we have 9/10 servers full of people and will probably grow on 2.0 launch.

Whitney Houston is dead! :O

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Originally Posted by Andvari

I wanted on Gungnir... but now I have 0 choice.. :angryface: :mad:

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we only have room for so much awesome on gungnir, if they allowed everyone to come here that wanted they there would surely be an awesome overload leading to what could end up being an apocalyptic event and no one wants that.

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

There are several reasons I can come up with why SE is keeping the slot numbers limited:

1) Servers are simply full and more people might cause lag >>> SE should not open any additional slots

2) Servers are not full, but to make sure every server got enough people they are limiting certain servers to even the numbers a bit >>> SE should not open any additional slots

3) Servers are mainly full because of inactive people: Kick them and make paying/active players a priority. After this round of merge is over they could give the inactive people the chance to transfer (without having to activate their account). Too bad if their server is full.

Just my opinion, SE has the insight and the knowledge to make their own decisions. We can give input or feedback, but we should stop crying about every single fart.

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why would we give input and opinions when you say SE shouldn't take them into consideration

So everyone cried about how its unfair to inactives blah blah blah. And now the servers are clogged with inactive accounts people are crying they cant get in?

LOL!

I just feel its lame NA players got no chance what so ever to get to pick a different world. I hope a few more spots are opened up. I would also like to see a dev post on this. :P

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

why would we give input and opinions when you say SE shouldn't take them into consideration

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I quote: "Just my opinion, SE has the insight and the knowledge to make their own decisions. We can give input or feedback, but we should stop crying about every single fart."

There is a different between giving input/feedback and crying/demanding changes. They should take input/feedback and think about it, but not just implement it because the community said so. The community only sees the "now" while the developers can see the "future". Community is selfish, while the developers act for the greater good of things.

It is really no rocket science.

What if everyone who wants to switch servers just switched to Ragnarok temporarily. I mean, lets say 20 people wanna switch from gugnir to balmung, and 20 people wanna switch from balmung to gugnir. They can't do this because they are each taking up that space. But, switching to Ragnarok would free up that space in each world. Just a thought though...I dunno how well it would work and it's kind of impossible to truly coordinate.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

inactives have nothing to do with anything, if we had option 1 the inactives would still be on the servers and would still be inactive.

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You really do not get it do you?

If we would have gone with the original planning SE had this would not have happened! If we did it their way all inactive players would have been randomly placed on server AFTER every single active player picked a server.

You reply shows EXACTLY why SE should not blindly listen to a crying/whining community.

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

I quote: "Just my opinion, SE has the insight and the knowledge to make their own decisions. We can give input or feedback, but we should stop crying about every single fart."

There is a different between giving input/feedback and crying/demanding changes. They should take input/feedback and think about it, but not just implement it because the community said so. The community only sees the "now" while the developers can see the "future". Community is selfish, while the developers act for the greater good of things.

It is really no rocket science.

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here is another one of your quotes

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He means that my point 3, was the original plan of SE (option 4). Community made SE change to option 2+4 combination and now people are whining because they did not think about the end result of it, exactly like you stated.

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we cant make SE do anything, they changed based on opinions and feedback.

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

You really do not get it do you?

If we would have gone with the original planning SE had this would not have happened! If we did it their way all inactive players would have been randomly placed on server AFTER every single active player picked a server.

You reply shows EXACTLY why SE should not blindly listen to a crying/whining community.

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^ this exactly

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

here is another one of your quotes



we cant make SE do anything, they changed based on opinions and feedback.

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and yet, if they didnt listen to us, people woulda raged for not listening to us

so yes, the community made this happen by overly demanding it


damned if you do, damned if you dont, people need to learn to take responsibility for what they chose instead of blaming everything else on other people like you seem to be doing

What is the community's fault?

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

and yet, if they didnt listen to us, people woulda raged for not listening to us

so yes, the community made this happen by overly demanding it


damned if you do, damned if you dont, people need to learn to take responsibility for what they chose instead of blaming everything else on other people like you seem to be doing

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im happy with the merger, im not complaining. If se can make it work to get more people on the servers they want great, if not, oh well, im right were i wanna be. I do feel bad for all the people that wanted to come to gungnir knowing it was the best server, it sucks they have to settle for less awesome servers.

SE should delete all accounts that have a year of inactivity..

Its not entirely the QQers fault. I also blame SE for listening to these idiots.

Ah well doesnt effect me.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

here is another one of your quotes



we cant make SE do anything, they changed based on opinions and feedback.

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Yes and I am saying they shouldn't have in this case. I am not saying we should not give feedback.

The community should at least be decent enough to accept that this was what the community itself wanted and not blame Square Enix about it again. They did a lot of things wrong, hell the game is still broken, but people are blaming them for every single thing lately.

This one is really for us ...

I'm sure a lot of the worlds were probably instantly full the second they looked at the numbers, so who's to say JP really had much of a choice either. It is sad that current active players may not be able to transfer where they want, but the community did choose it to be this way. I think it will all work out for the best though^^

Apparently not just NA got screwed, but the servers were full for everyone right at the start. JP has thread about the same thing.

Foxclon posted in there too, but it's just in response to someone asking if you need to do anything if you don't want to change servers.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

im happy with the merger, im not complaining. If se can make it work to get more people on the servers they want great, if not, oh well, im right were i wanna be. I do feel bad for all the people that wanted to come to gungnir knowing it was the best server, it sucks they have to settle for less awesome servers.

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i dont think people are stcuk with what we got now, i bet SE opens up more slots over time over the next few weeks

anyone who thinks this is the end all hours after they opened it up really isnt being reasonable or using their heads at all

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

Yes and I am saying they shouldn't have in this case. I am not saying we should not give feedback.

The community should at least be decent enough to accept that this was what the community itself wanted and not blame Square Enix about it again. They did a lot of things wrong, hell the game is still broken, but people are blaming them for every single thing lately.

This one is really for us ...

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well you have to realize that more people are probably happy with the way the mergers are now then upset, so where did they go wrong. Just cause a couple threads have people complaining doesnt mean everyone is mad. tons of people don't use the forums.

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i dont think people are stcuk with what we got now, i bet SE opens up more slots over time over the next few weeks

anyone who thinks this is the end all hours after they opened it up really isnt being reasonable or using their heads at all

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i agree

We, the forum community, complained about inactive accounts getting screwed in server merger. We got a plan were they were given priority. Congratulations, we got what we asked for; none of the inactive nonpaying accounts were harmed in this merger. Few to none of the active ones could move, but the inactive ones are safe.

at least now the inactives are evenly distributed amongst servers, had they gone with option 1 then they may have filled less populated server with more inactive accounts.

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

I quote: "Just my opinion, SE has the insight and the knowledge to make their own decisions. We can give input or feedback, but we should stop crying about every single fart."

There is a different between giving input/feedback and crying/demanding changes. They should take input/feedback and think about it, but not just implement it because the community said so. The community only sees the "now" while the developers can see the "future". Community is selfish, while the developers act for the greater good of things.

It is really no rocket science.

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if the developers could see the future then they should have seen this issue and taken steps to keep the servers from getting full within 2 hours. it's not the players fault for the method they wanted. it's the dev team's bad handling and implementation of that method.

thank goodness i am goin to my default server so i don't need to move.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

well you have to realize that more people are probably happy with the way the mergers are now then upset, so where did they go wrong. Just cause a couple threads have people complaining doesnt mean everyone is mad. tons of people don't use the forums.





i agree

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The problem is the people who are complaining are the ones that wanted it like this LOL LOL LOL LOL

Again, what is the community's fault?

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Originally Posted by Thanos

The problem is the people who are complaining are the ones that wanted it like this LOL LOL LOL LOL

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how do you know that, did you write now everyone's name before to see who wanted it which way.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

Again, what is the community's fault?

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they wanted this option, and they were given what they wanted

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

they wanted this option, and they were given what they wanted

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The option of being locked out from other servers? I'm not trying to be coy in the slightest - I just haven't payed attention to the transfer thing other then the whole supposed "EU" server thing.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

Again, what is the community's fault?

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it's the community's fault for wanting a method that the staff was too inept to be able to understand and implement properly.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

they wanted this option, and they were given what they wanted

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Remember, a vocal minority complained.

It might not be the same people complaining now.

The only thing I remember ppl going ape crap over was " Not knowing the sever name is ruining my gaming experience" blah blah blah. Why in the hell would we all care about the other ppl who don't have active accounts. They should have gotten left in limbo.

i think people wanted auto merge with the option to transfer to the server of your choice if you choose. this i clearly not that option since people cant transfer therefore not being what people asked for.

This is why SE needs to do more polls. People only complain about something when they are against it.

Just be glad this is only a server merge and not some game breaking issue.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

The option of being locked out from other servers? I'm not trying to be coy in the slightest - I just haven't payed attention to the transfer thing other then the whole supposed "EU" server thing.

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people were specialy told it would be a combo option, cuz thats what the people wanted

part of that combo means a lockout once a server is full, we were more then told about this when we were asking for it and when the final details were announced

and now all of a sudden people act like they were never knowing anything about it and have flipped 18- and are going against what they wanted cuz all of a sudden its not what they want


so yes, its the community who asked for this, not knowing what they were asking for as usual

Vack is confused. Hiir will help Vack!

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

Come on #2! Big money, big money!

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But I am all for option 2 ^^

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Originally Posted by Chinook

That is a wise business decision, they would have probably lost a good amout of inactive players that would have never came back if they were separated from old friends.

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Originally Posted by b0ats

Fingers crossed for option 2! ^_^

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Originally Posted by Andrien

Good move by the dev team. thumbs up

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I'm so happy community input actually matters. Yoshi and his team are currently number 1 on the list of best developers of 2012.

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*****

It's the community's fault that everyone is happy about the merger. The devs listened to the community and so everyone is happy now! :D

Hooray for the community! Best community in all of MMO-dom!