Rising Event

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

maybe they're cycling it to worlds/data centers to keep it small since it doesn't take very long and you can just pretty much get everything you need from running it once or twice. i mean why allocate tons of space to something that could be used for other things like Eureka instances?

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If they were staggering release by world I wouldn't have seen almost all the worlds on my data center represented when I did it earlier. From what's been reported it looks like all of NA was running from 9pm to midnight PDT.

They don't have to allocate an extraordinary amount of space for it. One instance holding 144 players should require less server space then 36 instances holding 4 players each since it's only 1 set of art and NPC assets being loaded instead of 36.

The problem with having narrow windows restricting when all players can queue is that you end up forcing all players to queue for it at the same time if they want to participate instead of spreading it out over the entire day.

This isn't necessarily going to die out fast like other seasonal events usually do. As a level 68 WHM scaled to 50, I was getting 36.8K XP per FATE. I just went to CWH and did a level 50 standard NM FATE also as 68 WHM scaled to 50 and got 32.4k XP. For someone who's leveling alts jobs in the 30-50 range (and possibly even to 60), this makes a nice change of pace from the normal leveling grind. You might miss out on GC seals (at least I don't remember getting any) but not everyone cares about those.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

They don't have to allocate an extraordinary amount of space for it. One instance holding 144 players should require less server space then 36 instances holding 4 players each since it's only 1 set of art and NPC assets being loaded instead of 36.

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But the data usage increases a lot more.

If you have two instances with 4 people each, every persons data needs to be sent to every other person for a total of 4*3 connections, so 16, times two because you have two instances. That's 32.
If you have one instance with 8 people each, every persons data needs to be sent to every other person for a total of 8*7 connections, so 56 connections total.
24 people means 24*23, so 552 connections, in comparison to 96 from six 4-man instances.
144 players means 144*143, totaling 20592 connections in comparison to 576 from thirty six 4-man instances.

Compared to that data, the individual instances are significantly lesser burden even if you consider the need to sustain that many copies of them. In the end, the biggest burden in ALL things 'gaming' is the calculations. The graphics DO NOT burden the server. They burden the players computers. The server only tells the client which assets to load. The only burden on the server is following the numerous enemies scripts, but in this game in particular, they are so simplified that the increase in calculations in comparison to one larger instance is not nearly enough to compare to the burden of synchronizing all the people IN that instance.


Ultimately this event should not be solved like this with unspecified times of being up...but yeah. They may be doing it because of the server strain.

Has any one kind of a rough calculation of the spawn and D spawn times of the NPC?

The way it's being rolled out completely screws over casual players with limited time to play.

THIS. IS. BEYOND. BAD.

It's getting annoying checking if the npc spawned each hour to find out that it hasn't. I've had a free morning and will be busy all afternoon/evening so I'm just supposed to miss the npc pop and then come back tomorrow and hopefully get lucky and it spawns?

I really can't get my head around how no one in the team meeting pointed out how ridiculous the idea was.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

So perhaps it's something like different worlds getting a chance at different times, to ensure everyone can get into an instance when it becomes available? Instead of sending the servers into meltdown as everyone tries to do it at once.

Although if so, it could really do with some kind of "X minutes until the event begins" person you can talk to.

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If that is true it would also have been nice for SE to explain how it worked.

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Originally Posted by radhaz

I have a character on JP Anima. as of 22:20 PST, no recruiter.

I did log out and in at the Inn bed, sadly there is no "heck the bed option".

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omg lol that never died.

What an absolutely terrible way of showing thanks to players for playing for five years.

SE's just screwing up everything at this point.

Is expansion crunch that bad right now, or have they just stopped caring?


At this point the Mog Station sale is a better event. >>

This really is just a huge slap in the face at this point

It apparently spawned on Phoenix at... Some point in the last 12 hours, but I know that I missed it when it came around and I haven't seen it before or since. All I can do is just randomly login during the event and hope to see it sometime in the allotted timeframe.

I've only been staying subbed for the limited time holiday events, but if this is how they're going to be, I don't feel like I should even bother anymore. :( I really hope this isn't the new norm, especially with All Saints' Wake coming up soon, which I wait all year for.

So sitting in Ul'dah talking about random ways it might be spawned (spoilers: none worked) for 9+ hrs (and counting, still there).
I have yet to see the Recruiter, as I haven't yesterday either (between 15.00 and 21.00 GMT +2).
This is cruelty...

The only thing I found out that it spawned around midnight (GMT+2) on my world (Omega) and well, nothing anymore after... That is if I go from what people are shouting here, I have not seen the recruiter between start and 21.00 (GMT+2). People are also claiming GM's told them it was working as intended and spawntimers are indeed over 9 hrs...

For someone playing for this long and looking forward to this event in particular it makes me sad, how is this working as intended...

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Originally Posted by Kupenda

and spawntimers are indeed over 9 hrs...

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SE what the actual-

The length of this event's run time should have been extended then, if that's actually true. They realize people work during the day in both NA, EU, and JP... right?

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Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

Some people literally only have 3hrs to play each day, I guess we're screwed if that doesn't line up with the random time for the instance then.

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They gotta get that $5 for the White Raven earrings next year on the Mog Staion somehow, I guess.

Some people literally only have 3hrs to play each day, I guess we're screwed if that doesn't line up with the random time for the instance then.

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Originally Posted by Kupenda

The only thing I found out that it spawned around midnight (GMT+2) on my world (Omega) and well, nothing anymore after... That is if I go from what people are shouting here, I have not seen the recruiter between start and 21.00 (GMT+2). People are also claiming GM's told them it was working as intended and spawntimers are indeed over 9 hrs...

For someone playing for this long and looking forward to this event in particular it makes me sad, how is this working as intended...

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Is there proof a GM said this?

I'd very much like clarification on this. I'd love to do the event just to do it...but if its only every 9 ish hours....for 3 hours intervals....that may or may not happen during the 3 hours i log in every night......thats really just poor planning of an event....

Okay, I haven't even gotten to do this supposed event and I'm already unhappy. I sat around all day yesterday waiting for it and never saw a recruiter. Did the same this morning. Been stnading there like an idiot for two hours and no spawn. I have to go to work now so I guess if it only spawns once every 22 hours (who the heck knows) I'll never get a chance to do it. My idea of fun is to totally stand in place for hours on end only to have to go to work and getting nothing accomplished including having NO fun. WTF is wrong with this event? Remove the freaking earrings if that's the issue. I don't care. I just want to play this stupid event and not spend all my waking hours staring at a brick wall. Really disappointing. Some of us actually have lives.

been watching every hours if it has spawned yet, and nothing in the past 7 hours, what a shitty way to handle an event

If this is the route they're taking, they need to let us know when players for different worlds can access their content. Like a timetable.

ok.

It's not broken :(

https://i.imgur.com/lBj0DTB.png

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Originally Posted by Rockette

ok.

It's not broken :(

https://i.imgur.com/lBj0DTB.png

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What are they thinking with this event?

If they really didn't want the recruiter NPC to be available at all times, why wasn't a schedule posted somewhere such as the event page on the website, and why isn't it mentioned anywhere that it's not always available? It's such a weird thing to handle it like this, leaving people to wonder if there's a bug or what's going on, only to then be told it's working as intended.

Oh well in that case, may as well wait till next year till all the stuff ends up on MogStation. Definitely not enjoying waiting around doing nothing.

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Originally Posted by Banim

If they really didn't want the recruiter NPC to be available at all times, why wasn't a schedule posted somewhere such as the event page on the website, and why isn't it mentioned anywhere that it's not always available? It's such a weird thing to handle it like this, leaving people to wonder if there's a bug or what's going on, only to then be told it's working as intended.

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because it require a brain, and with how it is handled we have a proof they don't give a shit about player base

Midnight seems to be a recurring time when this spawns which is shockingly stupid. The. Worst. Event. Ever

I normally don't post to complain here, but I am very disappointed with the npc being unavailable for so very long. The instance was what I was most looking forward to since I only started playing in the arr beta. I never got to experience the calamity and was so happy the devs were finally giving us a chance.

So I waited all day yesterday and finally went to sleep hoping it was just a bug and that it would be here today. So much for that hope.

I have 2 kids involved in school activities and a husband to take care of. This isn't very friendly to people who cant be logged in all day waiting for the event to start for a narrow window of time.

Yeah, I'm sad and disappointed. :(

What happened to the XIV that "Respected player's time"?

As a thank you for five years of pouring your heart, sweat, blood and tears into our game here's a big up yours! That's what it feels like ot me and I've never been mad about anything involving FFXIV. I love this game but this...this makes me mad.

a big bad joke - hey u need to work ? dont worry, u can buy the stuff with u hard earnd cash next year! See ya -
Sorry but what the fuck is happen to FFXIV ? this game is going the wrong way, where the fuck is the love? asking players to stay afk and wait for the npc to spawn "MAYBE"... good job...

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Originally Posted by Straynge

As a thank you for five years of pouring your heart, sweat, blood and tears into our game here's a big up yours! That's what it feels like ot me and I've never been mad about anything involving FFXIV. I love this game but this...this makes me mad.

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I feel the same, this is the first time I've been really, full on, pissed off at XIV.

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Originally Posted by Rockette

Is there proof a GM said this?

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I have no proof, I have asked those shouters for proof, but they said they had conversations with GM's.
Hence why I said "if i go by what people are shouting here"

For myself I can confirm the recruiter has not spawned on Omega within the past 10 hours, we're starting to think a crazy 12 hour spawntime, though some are thinking it's 24... *sigh*

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Originally Posted by Kupenda

I have no proof, I have asked those shouters for proof, but they said they had conversations with GM's.
Hence why I said "if i go by what people are shouting here"

For myself I can confirm the recruiter has not spawned on Omega within the past 10 hours, we're starting to think a crazy 12 hour spawntime, though some are thinking it's 24... *sigh*

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It's ok Kupenda, I asked and a GM replied that the event is working as intended, screenshot supplied a few posts ago.

Wait

What?

Is that intentional?!

Dude, I work. I already deal with queues because what can you do, but this is beyond belief if really intentional.

Myself and my friends are Oceanic. They didn't get to do it because it spawned during work hours and hasn't come back up yet at our 2am... so.

Cool, cool.

http://replygif.net/i/269.gif

Edit: In related news, I guess they have kept those earrings "exclusive". By making the event so annoying to do, people won't do it. Or, won't even know it exists. Hope all them 1.0 players are happy.

The big cities turned into the Waiting-Simulator. People just standing around and waiting for the NPC to spawn.
SE, this is ridiculous. Stop doing ridiculous things, that make no sense.

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Originally Posted by Rockette

It's ok Kupenda, I asked and a GM replied that the event is working as intended, screenshot supplied a few posts ago.

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Yup I just saw after my reply, thanks for the screenshot, though it still makes me sad :(

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Originally Posted by Banim

If they really didn't want the recruiter NPC to be available at all times, why wasn't a schedule posted somewhere such as the event page on the website, and why isn't it mentioned anywhere that it's not always available? It's such a weird thing to handle it like this, leaving people to wonder if there's a bug or what's going on, only to then be told it's working as intended.

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Because they try to promote the community to gather together to figure all this out. /s

Like its some sort of super complicated riddle.

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Originally Posted by Mahrze

Because they try to promote the community to gather together to figure all this out. /s

Like its some sort of super complicated riddle.

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Now if only their coders could get together and figure the spaghetti code out... >_>

Seriously, people don't like camping for hours and do nothing. At least they should have give us a spawn time and not this shenanigan.
I sure hope it isn't only 1 time at a day. When it spawned on Balmung, I was asleep, cause in my timezone, it was around 5/6am. What fun is it that no one knows what's going on and we need to play detective ourself and alot of people have just limited time frame to play?
Pretty disappointed...

I have no words for the sheer level of ineptitude on display. At this point, I really do have to question if the devs have simply given up or that SE has straggled their budget for other projects. When you can't even get an event right...

The real sad part is people aren't going to remember the actual Rising or talk about nifty expansion hints like we have done in the past. The only subject dominating all discussion is how poorly thought out this event is. What a shame.