Male Bunny Outfit

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Originally Posted by Lukha

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A+ on that frickin’ glamour!

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Originally Posted by Texa

There is one!

Just open up the main menu, go to system, and press the button labeled "sign off" so you can stop playing the video game if the clothes people wear on their avatars bothers you so much.

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So let me get this straight, I should quit the game and that everyone else should get what they want except me? to make you happy but not others who don't wanna see that stuff gotcha.

Sounds selfish if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by Lukha

I mean, I wouldn't be against an option to hide glamours for people who hate fun?

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So your idea of having fun is playing dress up.

I have fun who says I hate having fun but in my own way, I just don't wanna see it I have every right just as much as you if you wanna play barbie doll dress up simulator and have fun that's cool with me.

I tend to pay attention to the game teleport when things get a little crazy in the zones, I see people cybering dressing up like those pictures you show and sorry but they ruin the fun for me not to say you do it but blame others for their actions and the way I think about it.

Anyways have fun.

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

I have fun who says I hate having fun but in my own way, I just don't wanna see it I have every right just as much as you if you wanna play barbie doll dress up simulator and have fun that's cool with me.

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Unfortunately one of the risks of playing any multiplayer game is potentially seeing/interacting with things you don't like, my guy. The neon pig suits, bikini tanks, and flying christmas bears aint my thing, but they're just a part of the game.

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Originally Posted by Lukha

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The belle of the ball

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Originally Posted by Rokke

Unfortunately one of the risks of playing any multiplayer game is potentially seeing/interacting with things you don't like, my guy. The neon pig suits, bikini tanks, and flying christmas bears aint my thing, but they're just a part of the game.

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Snide side comments aside (on both sides) , is it that bad to ask to be able to force your personal client to render other players as "basic" gear? Aside from personal tastes, it might (slightly) help those with poor internet connections since no requests for other players appearances would be necessary.

It wouldn't affect your game at all.

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

So let me get this straight, I should quit the game and that everyone else should get what they want except me? to make you happy but not others who don't wanna see that stuff gotcha.

Sounds selfish if you ask me.

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I can't think of anything that is a better reply to this post than this post.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

Snide side comments aside (on both sides) , is it that bad to ask to be able to force your personal client to render other players as "basic" gear? Aside from personal tastes, it might (slightly) help those with poor internet connections since no requests for other players appearances would be necessary.

It wouldn't affect your game at all.

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Anyone with bad internet or an outdated PC is going to chug through any area with people, thav boleros or no. The feature would by no means break the game for me, but I can think of a dozen more useful QoL adjustments

starting with finally releasing the male bunny suit :cool:

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

I tend to pay attention to the game teleport when things get a little crazy in the zones, I see people cybering dressing up like those pictures you show and sorry but they ruin the fun for me not to say you do it but blame others for their actions and the way I think about it.

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Do you ask to be shielded from people wearing things you don't approve of IRL too? I don't really like seeing people in certain wear (and some people have AWFUL fashion sense!) but it's just how they express themselves. It has nothing to do with me or what I like and dislike. If you can get over the two guys on your server who go out of their way to dress up like princesses and enjoy the game for everything else it has to offer, you might find yourself wondering why you ever bothered to care about some random stranger's get-up in the first place. I used to be very sensitive about what people were wearing and judge them harshly, but over the years I came to realize... it doesn't MATTER. They don't care about what I think, they're not doing it to annoy or disgust me, they're just showing a part of who they are. It's the same deal here- you aren't even in the equation. So why do you care if they aren't trying to stuff you in a dress?

I do have a legit question though... if SE actually comes through and makes a male-only bunny outfit designed for guys and not just a copy-paste of the girl's outfit, would that offend you? Only guys could wear it, and it probably wouldn't be feminine in the least if they designed it right, but it would be quite revealing. Is male sexuality some kind of horrible taboo to you like it seems to be to SE? Or is it just the oddballs who try to be as feminine as possible with their male avatars that give you the cooties?

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Originally Posted by Rokke

Anyone with bad internet or an outdated PC is going to chug through any area with people, thav boleros or no. The feature would by no means break the game for me, but I can think of a dozen more useful QoL adjustments

starting with finally releasing the male bunny suit :cool:

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I'll admit I'm derailing a little bit, the bunny suit is long overdue and is a really solid example of promises not delivered. +1 for please get this out to us now.

but..
Can you deny an option to hide other players .. uh.. tastes, wouldn't be totally useless? For the same reasons people don't like hearing bard performances (they're adding a way to turn this off), people might not want speedo torpedo the wonder roegadyn tank dancing around them in town.

Options to change personal perception are always positives in my book as long as they don't change gameplay or give mechanical advantage in pvp.

I think I saw something about red/blue teams in PVP already? If so the mechanic is already there. I could be mistaken there since my pvp was limited to getting a few wolfmark pieces then stopping.

If you can name one male character in any Final Fantasy game. Then I will be ok with this.

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Originally Posted by Aniond

If you can name one male character in any Final Fantasy game. Then I will be ok with this.

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Oh nice, you like Final Fantasy? Name 3 of their albums.

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Originally Posted by Aniond

If you can name one male character in any Final Fantasy game. Then I will be ok with this.

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Fighter.
/10char

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Originally Posted by Aniond

If you can name one male character in any Final Fantasy game. Then I will be ok with this.

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Not sure who this is directed at or what your point is, but...Tseng, Luzzu, Yaag Rosch, Kiros Seagill. All relatively minor characters so you can't accuse me of being a casual fan or just looking up protagonist names or something.

Also Sephiroth, Seymour, Kuja, Gladiolus, and Wol (Mobius edition), because this series is no stranger to the scantily clad male form.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

Snide side comments aside (on both sides) , is it that bad to ask to be able to force your personal client to render other players as "basic" gear? Aside from personal tastes, it might (slightly) help those with poor internet connections since no requests for other players appearances would be necessary.

It wouldn't affect your game at all.

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Even though I disagree with the sentiment of the person asking to block glamours clientside, you're right there is nothing inherently wrong with it. In fact, FFXI added a setting that would render all PC's looks as "static". Meaning they all look like they were wearing their level 1 starter gear so that the incessant blinking from gear swapping wouldn't bother other players. However they later added a costume system that made it a moot point anyway

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

(That one comment about hiding other player’s glamours)

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I wouldn’t have a problem with this.
This way people can dress how they want and others don’t need to see people dressed a certain way if they’re uncomfortable with it. It’s a Win/Win.


Except when you get that feeling in the back of your mind that you probably look like trash on another person’s screen.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

For the same reasons people don't like hearing bard performances (they're adding a way to turn this off), people might not want speedo torpedo the wonder roegadyn tank dancing around them in town.

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Bard's performance can cause anything from annoyance to actual issues depending on a person's sensitivity to that sort of sound, see this thread for an example. Saying that's comparable to people who feel uncomfortable at a naked Roe who, other than existing, is not impacting them in any way is factually wrong (and why is a naked male Roe the reason for this request and not the naked catgirls all over the place hmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder such a mystery)

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

Bard's performance can cause anything from annoyance to actual issues depending on a person's sensitivity to that sort of sound, see this thread for an example. Saying that's comparable to people who feel uncomfortable at a naked Roe who, other than existing, is not impacting them in any way is factually wrong (and why is a naked male Roe the reason for this request and not the naked catgirls all over the place hmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder such a mystery)

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Woah woah.. backup the snippy train there.

Do I really need to cite EVERY SINGLE EXAMPLE of what people might not want to see? It's NOT the reason in particular I'm just using something that a large majority of the playerbase, these being straight males , could possibly empathize with. So sure, naked catgirls, scantily clad potatoes and what the heck, too much skin or weird glamours on a Hyur as well. Some people don't want a miniature pig mascot breaking the look of a dungeon run either, or an all gold pajama tank with a sleepy cap on.

All of these are great reasons to allow people to have "default" skins for other players. Not seeing these does NOTHING to you personally and has no impact on your enjoyment of the game unless that enjoyment comes from knowing you're forcing your particular brand of dress sense on someone else, in which case .. your enjoyment sucks.

What if people get triggered by naked people running at them, or have a fear of mascots or animatronics? People can and will do unpleasant things using emotes and these cannot be blocked. These sound silly but it's just as valid as your sound issue.


Get off your high horse and realize other peoples problems are just as valid.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

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I never said any of those concerns aren't valid, simply asked not to compare sensory issues with likely homophobia. And I can imagine how seeing a large naked male Roe or Highlander running at them might trigger certain victims of sexual abuse, in which case if they were at least dressed it would lesser the impact. But no one comes up to SE and asks them to do that for those reasons. No one asks them to tame the naked Miqo population because of their religious beliefs or what not. This thread and the likes of it is where you'll see those requests pop up, supported by how long it's taking the devs to even implement the damned thing in the first place. At the very least, I doubt the guy who originally asked for it has your levels of philanthropy.

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

I never said any of those concerns aren't valid, simply asked not to compare sensory issues with likely homophobia. And I can imagine how seeing a large naked male Roe or Highlander running at them might trigger certain victims of sexual abuse, in which case if they were at least dressed it would lesser the impact. But no one comes up to SE and asks them to do that for those reasons. No one asks them to tame the naked Miqo population because of their religious beliefs or what not. This thread and the likes of it is where you'll see those requests pop up, supported by how long it's taking the devs to even implement the damned thing in the first place. At the very least, I doubt the guy who originally asked for it has your levels of philanthropy.

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Some people would see the content is available and just never play the game, or encounter it once and never load the game again. Just because nobody has broached the subject on the forums , which are a horribly limited and vocal sample of the playerbase, doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered.

A decent idea coming from a bad source doesn't make it a bad idea.

Solutions to people having crippling reactions to something in game that could be fixed with simple software solutions don't need to be belittled just because the root cause doesn't come from the same place.

All of that being said, I suffer from none of that but I can see the benefit of the option as well as the fact that if someone doesn't want to see something in game and it can be adjusted without impact to the rest of the playerbase, it's worth considering. It's multi-beneficial and little to non-detrimental. Why even argue not?

I support whatever bunny-bustier or outfit thing SE has or has not actually designed for "males" in this game. It's fine, the more clothing options the better as far as I'm concerned. But the "I don't want to see these things" vote is just as valid. In this case the request for a bunny outfit came first, so yes that should be concentrated on first..

but wouldn't it be great if these other things were available?

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

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1. Please stop strawmaning me. I never said that option shouldn't be implemented, only to not pretend like the reason it was brought up here is noble.
2. Please stop derailing this thread. If you wanna champion that cause, make a new one.

This thread shouldn't help support another cause when the one it's actually championing has been rudely denied us for literal years.

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

1. Please stop strawmaning me. I never said that option shouldn't be implemented, only to not pretend like the reason it was brought up here is noble.
2. Please stop derailing this thread. If you wanna champion that cause, make a new one.

This thread shouldn't help support another cause when the one it's actually championing has been rudely denied us for literal years.

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Did you miss the part where I mentioned the bunny outfit again? Cause yes, it's been promised and not delivered. That's not cool. Bunny outfit. Make it happen. Fight on.

If Blade and Soul can do it... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

This is what I have to say about gender locked items.
If males begin wearing female gear, I want SE to give me a option to shut off being able to see glamour.

Nothing against anyones style of wearing gear but I don't wanna see it.

So I would love for them to add a option where I can hide seeing glamour from other players.

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Sweetie you scared of homosexuals poor thing , sorry to make you question your sexuality because of an in-game character that you literally asking for a button to turn off glamour system.

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Originally Posted by Konakyun

Sweetie you scared of homosexuals poor thing , sorry to make you question your sexuality because of an in-game character that you literally asking for a button to turn off glamour system off.

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HEY!


BUNNY OUTFIT!


FOCUS.

we don't need to try and call people out for their hangups. and I've been told I need to keep my opinions about other features out of this.. so you too.


BUNNY OUTFIT.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

HEY!


BUNNY OUTFIT!


FOCUS.

we don't need to try and call people out for their hangups. and I've been told I need to keep my opinions about other features out of this.. so you too.


BUNNY OUTFIT.

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i have been saying this since female bunny outfit was released and when the second ver got released aswell so that wont really help <3

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Originally Posted by Konakyun

i have been saying this since female bunny outfit was released and when the second ver got released aswell so that wont really help <3

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Look, you want the bunny outfit.. I want people to have options.... Might as well bump the thread.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

Look, you want the bunny outfit.. I want people to have options.... Might as well bump the thread.

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i want female miqote , and female aura , and lalafell deleted aswell can we have this as an option ?

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Originally Posted by Konakyun

i want female miqote , and female aura , and lalafell deleted aswell can we have this as an option ?

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I'll concede the overcute potatoes but you can have the cat girls when you can pry them from my cold clawed fingers.

Honestly though, standardizing peoples appearances isn't about homophobia for a lot of people... anyway..


BUNNY OUTFIT.

When will this stupid meme die?

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Originally Posted by SonKevin

When will this stupid meme die?

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It's not a meme. I'll stop asking for equal treatment for my character when I get it.

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Originally Posted by Delphinium_Consolida

Goodness. :( If that is the case, that's highly unprofessional!

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And yet Blizzard does it ALL the time.
But yes. I want the damn bunny outfit. Swimsuit style and fishnets included

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Originally Posted by Lukha

It's not a meme. I'll stop asking for equal treatment for my character when I get it.

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You are equal. Equal with all the other male characters.

Gender-locking gear is asinine, it's 2018 ffs. Less gender roles, more King's Hawaiian rolls please and thank you

Locking certain outfits to specific genders isn't the problem. Not providing an equal amount of options for male characters compared to female characters, however, is. A 'bunny outfit' with the male form in mind could be made, many suggestions as to how it could be the case have been made throughout this very thread.

Making the female version of the outfit available to male characters does nothing for those of us who do not play a feminine male character. It has become very obvious with hairstyles that 'unisex' for the developers just means making stuff with female characters in mind and male characters as an afterthought. That both hairstyles for 4.2 were shown off on female characters in previews is a testament to that.

Yet, Asahi wears one of the two new styles, meaning it was made for a male character.

Really, the issue with short hair is it looks good on females, but longer styles that appear to have extra care put into them don't translate as well.


This is an issue with fashion in the real world, and a terrible stereotype. Men who put concerted effort into their appearance are less masculine, and men's clothing is far less dynamic. That's just the same in FFXIV.

(At least we don't see full plate mail turn into bikini armor the moment a female avatar equips it.)

Disgusting please dont...i remember an old forum complaining male gear were to feminine..

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Originally Posted by urban

Disgusting please dont...i remember an old forum complaining male gear were to feminine..

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Have you read the thread at all? We don't want a carbon copy of what the girls have. We want a sexy outfit just for guys, made to highlight male sex appeal. If SE does it right it would HAVE to be locked to guys anyway.

If you feel icky seeing guys in various states of undress that's a separate issue not really in the scope of this thread. But we'll keep campaigning for equal treatment on your behalf anyway. =)

The thing is, male fashion doesn't need to be feminine. It simply needs to highlight the male form and compliment it tastefully. Variety is key, though so far we're not getting much variety in terms of hairstyles. Many are designed to be androgynous or feminine and specific requests for things like facial hair and a masculine version of the infamous bunny suit are either ignored or delayed indefinitely.

As far as 4.2 is concerned, I feel like it was great in terms of combat glamour for male characters. Yet again, though, it did not deliver much in terms of hairstyles or 'civilian' clothing. Naturally some people will think differently, yet I am not going to be quiet until we start getting things like Nero's stubble and Hien's stubble and hairstyle as customisation options.

I can't imagine how creeped out the Japanese are by the West's consistent demands to crossdress. It's creepy and weird just like when people keep asking for butt sliders. I want more options, but I don't want creepy options. More faces and hairstyles not ripped from other FF games. I want cooler male clothing. I don't want female clothing on men. Demanding your fetishes be put in the game needs to stop.

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Originally Posted by SonKevin

I can't imagine how creeped out the Japanese are by the West's consistent demands to crossdress. It's creepy and weird just like when people keep asking for butt sliders. I want more options, but I don't want creepy options. More faces and hairstyles not ripped from other FF games. I want cooler male clothing. I don't want female clothing on men. Demanding your fetishes be put in the game needs to stop.

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Either go back and actually read the thread or go away. Your trolling is unbelievably obvious at this point.