Soo... apparently Diadem has i280 weapons with higher WD than alexandrian/anima lux

HW is done. Everything will be dated in 3 month. Enjoy what you been given and be happy.

People just complaint for the sake of complaining tbh.

Move on and enjoy the game until expansion

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Originally Posted by Watachy

Funny thing is even with 280 people won't be abble to skip soar with 6DPS.

"Heeeey lets invade those farm parties with my i280weap and my 1300DPS !"

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Why even try hard to be good at the game when you just get handed top level **** randomly? I just want my accomplishments to feel like something ;_;

Catch-up mechs are fine but this is some next level shenanigans. You can't even get gobdip for shire yet and they drop this diadem stuff on us.

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Originally Posted by ZhaneX

People asked for horizontal progression.

Well there ya go.

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^A vertical line

When the stats/iLvL is going up, it can't really be horizontal, can it?

Well tbqh out of like 4 parties on last boss only 1 got that weapon, and it's 1/13 chance for any class, so it'll be indeed time consuming to farm.

....... I'm so done with Yoshida pulling down his game.

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Originally Posted by cakesphere

Why even try hard to be good at the game when you just get handed top level **** randomly? I just want my accomplishments to feel like something ;_;

Catch-up mechs are fine but this is some next level shenanigans. You can't even get gobdip for shire yet and they drop this diadem stuff on us.

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Your accomplishments feel like nothing unless you have some item that others don't? Do you not remember what you've achieved? No-one can take that away from you, whatever items are added to the game.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

Well tbqh out of like 4 parties on last boss only 1 got that weapon, and it's 1/13 chance for any class, so it'll be indeed time consuming to farm.

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Sadly, Diadem is not that much more fun for me so far. Feels like northern than all over again.
FWIW I haven't gotten to see an emergency mission though, maybe that's fun at least? God I hope so. Please let SOMETHING in diadem be fun.

I did yokai on two characters and I'm getting flashbacks

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

Well tbqh out of like 4 parties on last boss only 1 got that weapon, and it's 1/13 chance for any class, so it'll be indeed time consuming to farm.

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But it's casual-friendly content since there is nothing difficult in farming A rank monsters/fates.

This is a shame to all raiders.

Casual-friendly policy from SE is getting ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Arutan

....... I'm so done with Yoshida pulling down his game.

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Agreed.

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Originally Posted by Singularity

Your accomplishments feel like nothing unless you have some item that others don't? Do you not remember what you've achieved?
No-one can take that away from you.

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What is the point of attempting speedclears now with this added wrench of RNG weps? Anyone with a half-decent one and a half-decent group will blow others out of the water.

I'm going to propose an alternate theory here, they put in the 280 weapons because they realized this was the only way to get people in to the new diadem.

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

I'm going to propose an alternate theory here, they put in the 280 weapons because they realized this was the only way to get people in to the new diadem.

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Then put a glamour/mount that most people will go for.

Not a f**** BIS weapon to make all raiders investment useless

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Originally Posted by ZhaneX

People asked for horizontal progression.

Well there ya go.

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You don't even know what "horizontal" means.

This weapon is vertical btw.

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

I'm going to propose an alternate theory here, they put in the 280 weapons because they realized this was the only way to get people in to the new diadem.

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I mean, it's fate grinding. In an instance. This is probably the case sadly

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

I'm going to propose an alternate theory here, they put in the 280 weapons because they realized this was the only way to get people in to the new diadem.

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They do that for every trash content they add in and nobody care about. They could just stop wasting time on those crap which will die again at some point and that the only purpose is to reward casual who achieved nothing more than raiders. That would give them more ressources to get 5 to 6 raid boss per 2 patch.

What was wrong with admitting diadem was a mistake and moving on?

Why would SE do this? ;________;

Someone just linked it the WHM weapon on reddit.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...017_124926.png

370 secondaries compared to 284 on the relic ...

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Originally Posted by Singularity

Your accomplishments feel like nothing unless you have some item that others don't? Do you not remember what you've achieved? No-one can take that away from you, whatever items are added to the game.

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The accomplishments feel like nothing because the usablity of the items has become meaningless. The raid weapon particularly now becomes a glorified glamour if you get a diadem weapon with good stats.

Edit: nevermind, even with the anima stat modification, relevant diadem gear seems to be BiS across the board.

There is also a picture of a ring with absolutely insane stats too. Unsure if it's BIS or close to it, I'd have to math it out but this is OG diadem all over again and it's awful

Makes me want to go get BIS in WoW instead (LOL TITANFORGED), the level of RNG is getting close to equivalent now

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/...HlV6KRr7rKfDe8

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Originally Posted by ErryK

The official forums being dramatic again, what's new?

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I love it. I love it so much.

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Originally Posted by Watachy

Then put a glamour/mount that most people will go for.

Not a f**** BIS weapon to make all raiders investment useless

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Hey, I never said it was a good idea. But I'm fairly confident in my theory being correct.

Slightly off topic, how are the JP forums reacting to this? Anyone know?

So apparently the emergency missions are totally random? So no skill involved to get them to spawn, just RNG and then RNG for the drops

Just what I wanted, a chance of a chance and then roll for stats. Horrible design.
EDIT: I forgot! Technically it's four levels of RNG because you have to RNG the right wep for your class before rolling stats

http://i.imgur.com/1N0UjV3.jpg

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

Friendly reminder: raiders and relic farmers are not entitled to the highest ilevel gear. They should drop this silly argument that they should be the only ones at a certain ilvl. It's simple jealousy.

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Yeah how dare those guys wanna be rewarded for the blood, sweat and tears they put into their grinds. Totally crazy talk

Bravo SE. You smoke pretty good stuff at your offices.
You could put new mount and fluff as you like and Diadem would still be success but you chose to render the relic and alex weapons useless in just few days.

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Originally Posted by cakesphere

Just what I wanted, a chance of a chance and then roll for stats. Horrible design.

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Well, after everyone called PotD a success...any surprise? Whether there's a silver chest is random, whether the chest explodes is random, whether it upgrades if it doesn't explode is random, whether it upgrades the right thing is random, whether you have a hoard on your floor is random, whether you get a pomander of intuition to see it is random, what's INSIDE the hoard is random... and I'm just listing the rewards of RNG hell here, the trap/floor baggage goes extra.

They have heard your feedback and put more RNG up! Please be satisfied.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Well, after everyone called PotD a success...any surprise? Whether there's a silver chest is random, whether the chest explodes is random, whether it upgrades if it doesn't explode is random, whether it upgrades the right thing is random, whether you have a hoard on your floor is random, whether you get a pomander of intuition to see it is random, what's INSIDE the hoard is random... and I'm just listing the rewards of RNG hell here, the trap/floor baggage goes extra.

They have heard your feedback and put more RNG up! Please be satisfied.

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POTD was fun side content. God help us if they actually thought it was good design for mainstream content

EDIT: It also didn't reward BIS gear

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Originally Posted by Karja

370 secondaries compared to 284 on the relic ...

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That is... obscenely broken. 5 ilvls, almost 100 extra secondary stats? This is ridiculous.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...017_124926.png

lol. good design indeed

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Originally Posted by cakesphere

POTD was fun side content. God help us if they actually thought it was good design for mainstream content

EDIT: It also didn't reward BIS gear

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No it didn't, but it gave weapons on par with the current ex primal, which is where these fucking pieces of shit Diadem things belong.

Yes, I am pissed at this, Square Enix, this is not the way to do it, why would you make casual weapons best weapons available? The relic is already strongest there is, and now we get even more casual crap for BiS. Not how to make people happy. And anyone who thinks this is a good idea is an S-level casual.

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Originally Posted by Shalice_Icefrost

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...017_124926.png

lol. good design indeed

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Weapon damage is 30 iLvl difference and mainstat is 15 iLvl difference, compared with i270 and i240 weapon.

Glad I didn't try to grind a Dun Scaith drop yet this week, don't get why they invalidated all other gear with this though.

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Originally Posted by alimdia

Creator Savage lockout is still not removed and Anima Lux was added barely weeks ago, a bit too soon to invalidate everything.

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Because +2 and +13 are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo big an increase over current gear that it INVALIDATES EVERYTHING.

Get a grip, this is a minimal, vanishingly small increase that only hardcore min/maxers care about.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Well, after everyone called PotD a success...any surprise? Whether there's a silver chest is random, whether the chest explodes is random, whether it upgrades if it doesn't explode is random, whether it upgrades the right thing is random, whether you have a hoard on your floor is random, whether you get a pomander of intuition to see it is random, what's INSIDE the hoard is random... and I'm just listing the rewards of RNG hell here, the trap/floor baggage goes extra.

They have heard your feedback and put more RNG up! Please be satisfied.

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You didn't get BiS ANYTHING from PotD. Just rare and expensive glamour items.

This is a huge middle finger to raiders and an even bigger one to relic grinders. What was the point of either if they're just gonna hand out better gear to lazy, skillless players?

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Originally Posted by Pintsized

Because +2 and +13 are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo big an increase over current gear that it INVALIDATES EVERYTHING.

Get a grip, this is a minimal, vanishingly small increase that only hardcore min/maxers care about.

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It actually is. As a drg, I could get one with Parry and Spell Speed and it would still invalidate my relic by sheer weapon damage and main stat boost alone.

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Originally Posted by Shalice_Icefrost

lol. good design indeed

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You can't deny that it's a pretty good incentive to do this new content :)

Don't worry raiders, Creator Savage still drops BiS armor. Actually, it's a pretty good idea. Make raids only drop best armor and accessories, while trials and additional content drop best weapons. And please, please, keep tome gear lower than the best gear.

So we get people complaining that the formula never changes...

(Not trying to rag on your post specifically Skivvy, just displaying an opinion many people share.)

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Every MMO of course has it's gear grind once you hit endgame, but in my opinion, XIV fails miserably at making it feel fresh and diverse.

For quite awhile, the pattern has been 2 new dungeons, a new raid, new coil/alex level. Each dungeon has the same formula - trash - boss - trash - boss - trash - boss. Each raid has a near-identical pattern too. PotD mixed things up a bit (thank you Nyzul and Salvage!), but for the majority of content, it's all just rehashed each patch.

I'd like to pretend to be optimistic about Stormblood, but so far they haven't shown that they're willing to stray too far from their comfort zone.

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...so SE changes the formula and adds content that isn't a raid, a relic or a tome grind and has relevant rewards (so people don't brand it as side content or fluff like they did with Aquapolis, PotD and Gold Saucer). People then get mad because they don't want anything except raids, relics and tomes to be a part of their end game. Uhhh...

No wonder Yoshi-P is sometimes frustrated with our feedback. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Pintsized

Because +2 and +13 are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo big an increase over current gear that it INVALIDATES EVERYTHING.

Get a grip, this is a minimal, vanishingly small increase that only hardcore min/maxers care about.

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If you think +2/+3 wep damage is "vanishingly small" then I don't know what to say because you are so staggeringly wrong
Like I don't even have the energy to tell you how wrong you are
That's how wrong you are

Actually I don't have to explain, someone did that for me

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

Weapon damage is 30 iLvl difference and mainstat is 15 iLvl difference, compared with i270 and i240 weapon.

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To compensate they should change alex weapons and relics to ilvl 290 or something.

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Originally Posted by cakesphere

Why even try hard to be good at the game when you just get handed top level **** randomly? I just want my accomplishments to feel like something ;_;

Catch-up mechs are fine but this is some next level shenanigans. You can't even get gobdip for shire yet and they drop this diadem stuff on us.

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Honey, if you haven't figured out how things work in this game...must be new. I've figured it out way back when things where ilevel 70. Everything is obsolescence, hence why I personally never bothered with EX nor savage. Not because I wasn't good, because there was no point in it.

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Originally Posted by Pintsized

Because +2 and +13 are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo big an increase over current gear that it INVALIDATES EVERYTHING.

Get a grip, this is a minimal, vanishingly small increase that only hardcore min/maxers care about.

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It's +3 Weapon Damage, +4 Primary Stat, and +10 Health. Which yeah, might seem like insignificant numbers, but they do make a noticeable difference. What's really getting people though is up to almost 100 extra secondary stat points compared to the 275 contemporaries.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

So we get people complaining that the formula never changes...

(Not trying to rag on your post specifically Skivvy, just displaying an opinion many people share.)


...so SE changes the formula and adds content that isn't a raid, a relic or a tome grind and has relevant rewards (so people don't brand it as side content or fluff like they did with Aquapolis, PotD and Gold Saucer). People then get mad because they don't want anything except raids, relics and tomes to be a part of their end game. Uhhh...

No wonder Yoshi-P is sometimes frustrated with our feedback. :rolleyes:

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I just want the content to be rewarding and fun with fairly appropriate rewards. FOUR levels of RNG to get a weapon way better than any other currently in the game right now from what is basically an instanced FATE grind is

a) Not fun, fates have been done to death
b) Not rewarding, only frustrating

I wonder if other higher level items will come out between now and Storm Blood release.