If there would be exclusives for all regions, there would be Japan, EU and US. What about Australia, New Zealand and any other region? No, there should be no region exclusives (as in, permanently exclusive, they should be available on the mog station) in a strict kind of way. Not unless SE makes an exclusive outfit for EVERY region that plays this version.
THIS MAID OUTFIT THATS REGION LOCKED TO JP ACCOUNTS
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04-05-2016, 05:22 PMChessala
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04-05-2016, 11:22 PMWinterLunaThat's a different problem altogether. They should work on data centres for those regions. I agree though, it does need to be for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chessala
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04-06-2016, 12:58 AMSakuralunaWell, I was lumping Australia etc. with EU same as SE does, but I agree with this, because of the technicalities it would be easier to not have region exclusives at all unless all regions have access to their own. I'm just saying I'm not one of those crying over the maid outfit because I don't mind not getting an item as long as no one gets preferential treatment. SE should have planned this out to be more fair to all regions, but the fact that they are in contract now over region locked items means they would have at least looked into how this would effect the non-Japanese player base since we are a significant population, which makes me fear that they intentionally ignored us. Maybe you're right, it should have just gone to mogstation for easier access to all, but due to the contract that likely won't happen for a long time now, maybe years, which I also see as very dismissive toward non-JP.Quote:
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04-06-2016, 03:10 AMMagisYeah, I am really surprised at the baby tantrums some people in the XIV community have every time they don't get something they want. SE can do w.e they want with their game, and they don't have to care about your whiny attitude. It's really embarrassing seeing what I assume are grown men and women acting like 5 year olds (over virtual item no less).Quote:
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04-06-2016, 04:45 AMSeidaku
It looks like a dyed black version of the valentines event lol.
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04-06-2016, 05:55 AMWinterLunaOr maybe people are constructively informing SE that they want this item? Okay, maybe not the OP, but don't be so quick to call people "whiny" when the majority of people here are merely expressing their disappointment with something. Also, please don't start with the "virtual item" nonsense, this entire game is virtual and you've taken your time to comment on a Forum based on a virtual game.Quote:
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04-06-2016, 06:06 AMWelsper59That's actually his point though, I think. Even if you're civil about something, it doesn't change the fact that a lot of people seem to view this as some sort of offense to humanity lol. It'd be like having Trump and Sanders talk about the same topic, one is obviously going to be more aggressively yelling and in-your-face than the other, but they're still treating the severity or seriousness relatively the same. At least that's how I interpreted it.Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterLuna
To share an opinion that you'd like something is fine, but whether or not you actually get it, or in some cases how quickly you get it, shouldn't be cause for feelings of contempt lol. At least not for something so minor on the scale of what could be. That sort of jazz. -
04-06-2016, 06:35 AMXyphion
The thing is you can't tell anyone what not to start with and what they can't whine about on a forum. It makes both of you look bad.
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04-06-2016, 06:37 AMWinterLunaHe first called people "whiny" and then was hypocritical by saying it's only a virtual item, while he's playing a virtual game. That's why I said that.Quote:
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04-06-2016, 06:47 AMWelsper59I don't think that's really "hypocritical" though, since he's making the big deal be about the players, rather than anything actually virtual (hence the "whiny" part). I mean, regarding the virtual game perspective you mentioned, it'd be hypocritical if he suddenly did a 180 and started complaining about some other virtual item though lol. I'd get a laugh out of that one. I don't think it's sound to believe that just because someone plays a game, that they suddenly be put into a category of hypocrisy for complaining about the people that play the game, rather than about a digital item. Doesn't really blend well.Quote:
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04-06-2016, 07:14 AMXyphionThat's an opinion he can't be a hypocrite by expressing his opinion which you both are chewing each other over an "Opinion"Quote:
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04-06-2016, 07:16 AMWinterLunaExcept I'm not insulting other players with my "opinion".Quote:
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04-06-2016, 07:33 AMXyphionHe can say what he wants if it doesn't pertain to you then don't answer him. Hence the saying " The Guilty Speaks."Quote:
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Just fyi in case you get the wrong idea, because you come as really defense as if everyone is trying to attack you and is against you. I'm trying to tell you to ignore the bad apples. -
04-06-2016, 07:40 AMWinterLunaI have a habit of being really defensive, it's just my nature, apologies.Quote:
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04-06-2016, 08:39 AMAlistaireSince when does that get the label "hypocrite"? Hypocrite means you're not consistent in your beliefs or opinions; if he insults another player with his he's only a hypocrite if the same standard doesn't always apply.Quote:
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04-06-2016, 08:55 AMIromi
SE please let us get these outfits too, I am tired of waiting lol ^.^
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04-06-2016, 10:47 AMWinterLunaThe hypocrite comment was aimed at the fact he was using the gear being virtual as an excuse to call us whiny yet he is playing a virtual game and commenting on forums based on said game. The item being virtual makes no difference on its value to people when the entire game itself isn't "real".Quote:
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04-06-2016, 01:18 PMAlistaireThat's....still not hypocritical. Guy has fun playing games, says people shouldn't get worked up over a particular item not being available because it's not real. No hypocrisy there.Quote:
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04-06-2016, 01:35 PMColorfulAs someone who couldn't care less about the maid outfit (though I do want that Ifrit mask), there's definitely more to it than just items for me. It's the fact that they were willing to put aside 50%+ of the playerbase entirely, and then toss them aside as an afterthought to make some extra money (or promotion for their game in Japan). There are already people going around saying that the thoughts of the English playerbase don't matter as much as the Japanese, we're already second grade customers getting hastily done translations with Live Letters, lots of official developer posts never make it here without the help of our brilliant fan translators on Blue Gartr or Reddit, and so on. It just sucks that they're treating players outside of Japan as 2nd grade customers, but hey, that's no surprise from Japanese developers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alistaire
It's good to know that they're in the works of planning something out though, hopefully it's through the Mogstation, I'd even pay $10 for the two masks if they were bundled (or $5 each)! I don't get a bottle of water with it, but hey, it is what it is. Let's just hope they don't pull this stunt again, or if they did, announce worldwide plans at the same time instead of turning a Live Letter into a promotion for merchandise and items we can't even purchase. -
04-06-2016, 01:39 PMAlistaireTotally agree. That whole thing was more of a sidetrack about someone completely misusing the term "hypocrite". And this isn't the first time SE has been seen as favoring JP customers. It's to the point where they can't be unaware of the consequences of doing stuff like this.Quote:
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04-06-2016, 02:21 PMSakuralunaI completely agree with this. It's my main concern too, and I think people need to be speaking out more against this sort of treatment, but unfortunately we seem to be lumped in with the ones who are making a big deal out of the outfit and dismissed entirely. I feel like I'm sitting here watching people be okay with it as long as the maid outfit doesn't turn into another lightning hair situation. :/Quote:
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04-07-2016, 12:35 AMWinterLunaI wasn't "completely misusing the word." He is being hypocritical. "Behaving in a way that suggests one has higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case." He is insulting other players for wanting an item that he described as "virtual." So the rest of the game isn't virtual? He's never got upset over the game either right? Using the word "virual" was the entire reason he was being a hypocrite. Say what you will, I stand by what I'm saying.Quote:
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04-22-2016, 08:00 AMKika_SnowheartLMFAO, would love 2 c thtQuote:
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04-22-2016, 09:11 AMOMGAFLYINGPENGUINIf you have played enough games and perhaps bought enough Japanese games you would know that this has been a underlying problem for a long time and is by no means ethical. When you create "exclusive" events you show the other half that they are different, that they are the priority when it comes to certain things.Pokemon games only have japan exclusive pokemon, the recent bravely default second Collector's edition did not come with AR codes & Agnes figurine, the old bravely default had costumes only the japanese has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alistaire
Japan economy is pretty bad now due to the financial crisis despite the yen currency being strong & most MMOs and Japanese console companies are far behind mobile gaming companies, that is why lately you see that even SE have to enter the mobile gaming industry.Look at how many games they have integrated into mobile device. International sales contributes greatly to their revenue so I don't see why we should get anything lesser.
Times have changed and the most market relies on the international markets more than it has before. And if you're thinking " oh this guy just probably wants the items really badly", no I don't even have the slightest interest in them but if this happened once it can happen again (especially since it was successful), its just that all these "japan-exclusive" events are obnoxious. I'm not asking to be treated like a VIP but japan exclusive event makes me feel like I'm a 2nd class player. I'm from singapore and there are things I do not mind, I pay 80$ for each ff14 OST ,70$ for each plushie even 360USD(485SGD) for FF15 CE because it doesn't ship outside of NA. I understand that is the price I pay for playing an international game.
Yoshi did something I rarely see from a SE game developer, which is to communication with the players as a whole and it has proven to be successful. The same goes for FF15, Tabata has been communicating with the players because there is an issue with scalpers, an absurd demand for it but too little supply.