why am i so gimped now?

I have to admit I tried Gla (again) on Ifrit, thought lolGla and just went back to Mrd.

But for normal grinding I just don't know what you're talking about. Sure you have to kill mobs a bit lower now, but the sp is still amazing if not better than before 1.18. Fights might seem a bit tougher, but for it being as miserable as you'rel all saying it is.. I don't follow at all. And you're going to be insulted after saying this, I know you will, I'm sorry, but it seems to me that just all the bad players are complaining right now. You're definitely doing sometihng wrong. Find out what it is and fix it.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Give people easymode and they'll get used to it, and cry when the game finally becomes balanced. Sad but true.

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People are mainly complaining about solo play and solo grinding, and despite this communities fervent disagreement, it is a valid playstyle. The problem right now is that there is no middle ground. Group XP has become amazingly good, while solo XP has become terrible by comparison. People praise changes they like and rage about the ones they don't. No real conversation happens on this forum. A topic can't go for more than five replies without some inane comment i.e. You're doing it wrong, you're just a troll, I don't care because it doesn't bother me, etc.

This community has really gone to shit. In the game, nobody says a damn word, and on the forums you're all a bunch of petulant children.

Enemies outside the city are WAY too tough.

I already mention it should be soloble at lv1-20 and be able to handle enemys at a easy rate.

HP/MP recharging rates are way to slow to keep with with lower leveling making it extremely tough to handle Links and do chains.

New & some expert players do not have Materia linked into there equipment. New players do not have any gil to support equipment and materia.

Enemy ATK & DEF need to be lowered to about hafe what they are now.

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Enemies outside the city are WAY too tough.

I already mention it should be soloble at lv1-20 and be able to handle enemys at a easy rate.

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It is easily soloable.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Greetings! Mocchi gathered information from Matsui about why players are feeling as if battle is much more difficult now then prior to patch 1.19.

Here you go!

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I like that leveling is a little slower than before (solo - it was much too fast), and that battles are a little harder. I feel like I need to gear my character carefully now. I notice a huge difference in performance when I equip things close to my level. I'm starting to appreciate every level I gain because I have to work hard for them. I don't feel like things are handed to me anymore. I can't wait to get some really cool gear and try out upgrading it with materia.

Well done with the battle system! It took a bit of time to get used to but I'm really enjoying myself!
And thanks for giving me a reason to get out of my nooby gear! XD

While I think the patch is important for the long-term direction of FF14, it seems like too much of a change too quickly. I logged on for the first time since the update to my level 10 THM, grabbed a levequest, went to the level 10 camp wearing the same equipment I had before the patch, and couldn't defeat one mob anymore (doesn't help when the mobs attacked in groups of 3-4 in the levequest). While the idea of using materia is good, it seems like too quick a change in combinations with all the other re-calculated stats for enemies, etc. Reading other players opinions, it has discouraged some players from playing the game, which is the last thing SE would want right now. They want to make the game profitable for them as quickly as possible so they can start charging monthly fees again.

While I agree a change was needed, it is something that could/should have been implemented more slowly over a couple of patches to allow players time to adjust to the changes, rather than dropping it on everyone all at once. I'm not really feeling encouraged to play the game right now.

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While I agree a change was needed, it is something that could/should have been implemented more slowly over a couple of patches to allow players time to adjust to the changes, rather than dropping it on everyone all at once.

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That would be only true if the current players actually mattered.

They only matter enough for them to not do a character wipe. The rest of the changes people simply need to deal with for the sake of enabling them to create an (eventually) profitable title. They must handle the game with heavy hand to make enough of a difference. That means resetting the economy and making everyone's equipment useless in the process. That means resetting the game mechanics everyone has become used to for the sake of creating ultimately more balanced systems. It means drastically changing how classes function (and their roles) to fix the underlying issues of the mechanics behind them. And most importantly, it means doing all of this in the most effective way possible (in one sweeping motion) to finish the game in the least amount of time and resources as possible. The only rule they have is: No Character Wipe.

Even though that would definitely allow them to finish the game much faster, instead of making sure no character is corrupted... at every turn.

I think the only drastical change nobody will have objections with is the UI and server rehaul. Everything else? Bitching will ensue.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

That would be only true if the current players actually mattered.

They only matter enough for them to not do a character wipe. The rest of the changes people simply need to deal with for the sake of enabling them to create an (eventually) profitable title. They must handle the game with heavy hand to make enough of a difference. That means resetting the economy and making everyone's equipment useless in the process. That means resetting the game mechanics everyone has become used to for the sake of creating ultimately more balanced systems. It means drastically changing how classes function (and their roles) to fix the underlying issues of the mechanics behind them. And most importantly, it means doing all of this in the most effective way possible (in one sweeping motion) to finish the game in the least amount of time and resources as possible. The only rule they have is: No Character Wipe.

Even though that would definitely allow them to finish the game much faster, instead of making sure no character is corrupted... at every turn.

I think the only drastical change nobody will have objections with is the UI and server rehaul. Everything else? Bitching will ensue.

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Nice, you speak the truth :)

I just realized that I and a LS-mate of mine fell into the trap of the thinking old way of doing things mindset last night. We were in the Mun Tuy cellars and were trying to get to the room where some mobs we needed for sidequest were, but there was a level 39 in the way (I'm 33, he's 31). I hesitated but my mate says "we can take a 39" and I thought yeah we can. 20 seconds later, he's dead and I'm running away. 30 seconds after that I'm trying to inch my way to his corpse to Rez him without aggroing the 39 who now seems to be camping his body as if to prove a point or take revenge for all the past times we could mow through content.
I realized now that you all are right. It will take some adjusting to and careful thought. I need to take a look at my gear today and check out what I can improve as well as adjust my hotbars. We may need to seek an alternate route to get to the room. For the first time in this game I feel challenged.
What... What is this strange feeling...? I think... I think I'm excited!

My opinion and feedback is that I have no goddamn health and that was the whole point in me picking a Roe'Gadyn. I also hate how you evened out stats so that melee and ranged classes have as many points into caster stats as they do stats that they actually need.

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My opinion and feedback is that I have no goddamn health and that was the whole point in me picking a Roe'Gadyn.

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you assumed they would have more health
now here is it said anywhere that they get that
its a known fact that races are cosmetic moreso in this game

this isnt final fantasy 11

My biggest issue atm is that sometimes I loose TP fast when I'm engaged. By the time i'm buffed I lost to much TP to be able to do a WS. Some say it's a bug in the claiming system , would like to know what's up with it. It's very frustrating!
Also, what's up with the Archer nerf, the class went from allmighty to most gimp ...

I haven't played this much since collector's edition release. I can't wait to get home from work and play for the rest of my Saturday. My friends will miss me terribly

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this isnt final fantasy 11

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QFT

And besides, 1.20 will allow us to allocate stat points per class :D

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Greetings! Mocchi gathered information from Matsui about why players are feeling as if battle is much more difficult now then prior to patch 1.19.

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Best response ever

What?!? You mean we might actually have to play WITH OTHER PEOPLE TO BE EFFECTIVE?

In an MMO, I can't abide that. I want to solo everything.

And to all you people that think Soloing is now SO HARD, why is it that I can still solo Leves in under 10 minutes for between 5 and 7k, not to mention the 3-4k I now get for actually killing the mobs?

Sure it takes a few more minutes, but it's still quite feasible.

Someone hit the nail on the head earlier: If you are having such a hard time you are probably doing something wrong. Figure it out instead of whining "OOHHHHH THE GIMPING!"

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My biggest issue atm is that sometimes I loose TP fast when I'm engaged. By the time i'm buffed I lost to much TP to be able to do a WS. Some say it's a bug in the claiming system , would like to know what's up with it. It's very frustrating!
Also, what's up with the Archer nerf, the class went from allmighty to most gimp ...

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but honestly there was too many archers before, and nobody wanted a pug DD in there party. parties were all heal 1 or 2 and the rest archers

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but honestly there was too many archers before, and nobody wanted a pug DD in there party. parties were all heal 1 or 2 and the rest archers

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What's your point? I'm lovin it.

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What's your point? I'm lovin it.

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my point is. if a few archers decide to play a different class cos they feel the archer has been nerfed. that would not be the worst thing for the game.

Eh, I'm just coming back after a bit of a break and I'm finding it rather difficult to take on mobs even at around my own level or slightly higher.


So far, soloing in the new dungeon at 16 (it was MUCH harder at 15, one level made a much bigger difference than I'd anticipated) on the bats I can get chain 1~2, sometimes 3 solo IF I'm lucky with evade/shield blocks (I swear I almost never block now compared to pre-patch...). Now that I'm within 2 levels of the next big weapon, I should probably try to get that Brass Spatha but even so combat feels a lot slower than before.

It's probably the lack of physical levels though - before, I was physical level 40-something but only GLA 15 so I was mowing stuff down with impunity :) now it feels like much more of a struggle taking on an even match.

Weirder still is the enemies won't always chain... when I was taking on Dodo's out near skull valley, I attempted to chain some R15's (I was 15 at the time as well) but got no EXP chain bonus despite killing them quickly enough. These bats on the other hand chain no problem, so I'm wondering if there's a bug in that regard with certain enemies?

I'm just curious about how it's been for others. To me, at least, I seem to be much weaker than before (really, really hate the stupid-low block rates - I miss manual guard and just reducing damage straight up...) and I'm wondering if it's just that I don't have the right gear (wearing lv 12~15 gear mostly), if GLA got nerfed, if it's because I'm solo or what. (Speaking of which, why the hell is everyone on Figaro so damned anti-social?)

I simply hate the fact that the gear I worked hard to get is now gimp and to re-gear my only option is to spend all my Gil on crafted gear thus making the players with the most Gil in game even richer. NM gear should be every bit as good as crafted gear.

Also the removal of action queueing has destroyed the rhythm of battle. As a 50 LNC or ARC I had a sequence to maximize my tp gain and damage output and even waiting for the previous out action to finish when I attempt to trigger my next action more often than not it does not go off, even though my previous action HAD completed!

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Weirder still is the enemies won't always chain... when I was taking on Dodo's out near skull valley, I attempted to chain some R15's (I was 15 at the time as well) but got no EXP chain bonus despite killing them quickly enough. These bats on the other hand chain no problem, so I'm wondering if there's a bug in that regard with certain enemies?

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You know I have experienced problems with linking as well... the only time I have been able to "chain" has been when I was under orders. Orders such as behest, leves, or caravan security.

As far as the whole gimped thing goes I found everything thus far to be harder yet more rewarding and more fun. Leves especially Grand company leves seem more fun because of the challenge. I was taking a break on leveling my lancer until things felt better all the way around and let me tell you it has been a very good change for me. The leves are harder but I am able to get around 10-12k experience points in just 7 to 8 minutes (lancer only). It just feels like I am actually getting somewhere and achieving something again. GLA is still fun just harder to master and stand out.

It's a new day a new game...learn to embrace it yo! And um...yeah I'm happy a level 1 character can no longer kill a level 10 enemy like seriously. I'm level 1 I should kill level one and maybe lucky level 2. Happy that enemies at my level are a challenge. Happy also that when I kill an enemy of my level that I get much greater XP then I ever did with an enemy 10 levels above me. So YAY!!!! Please no more trolling of this OMG it's so hard...it's really not...stop thinking in the past.

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You know I have experienced problems with linking as well... the only time I have been able to "chain" has been when I was under orders. Orders such as behest, leves, or caravan security.

As far as the whole gimped thing goes I found everything thus far to be harder yet more rewarding and more fun. Leves especially Grand company leves seem more fun because of the challenge. I was taking a break on leveling my lancer until things felt better all the way around and let me tell you it has been a very good change for me. The leves are harder but I am able to get around 10-12k experience points in just 7 to 8 minutes (lancer only). It just feels like I am actually getting somewhere and achieving something again. GLA is still fun just harder to master and stand out.

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Not everything links or chains...and it also depends on the proximity of an enemy and type of enemy and how you engage them.

It seems that SE decided that anything endgame requires a full pt (if not more) of 50s with all 50 gear with materia attached to every piece. Just tried to do Great Buffalo which could be done with like 5 50s before the patch, and now cant do it with a full pt of 50s with normal gear. This on top of all the problems people are having in the Darkhold, makes me think that no one except the very rich are gonna be able to do anything endgame for at least a month, when materia is plentiful and people reform strategies on endgame content

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It seems that SE decided that anything endgame requires a full pt (if not more) of 50s with all 50 gear with materia attached to every piece. Just tried to do Great Buffalo which could be done with like 5 50s before the patch, and now cant do it with a full pt of 50s with normal gear. This on top of all the problems people are having in the Darkhold, makes me think that no one except the very rich are gonna be able to do anything endgame for at least a month, when materia is plentiful and people reform strategies on endgame content

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I remember when people kept saying Great Buffalo was a push over, especially after all NMs were 'nerfed' in a previous patch. The "very rich" won't even be able to have the best materia slotted gear. It's not that cut and dry.

Yep the dev pretty much summed up what I was thinking about the matter.

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It mostly depends on what enemies you're fighting. But there's one note I've got to make I think the devs should consider doing and that's reviewing the overall levels of mobs in the Grand Company leves. Since I'm capped at Rank 50 I don't dare go higher than 3 star, 4 star's pushing it and likely asking for failure. Since these can only be taken on solo it seems pointless they allow you to scale the difficulty of enemies up so high.

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Company leves are crazy hard considering they are intended for solo. Either let us group up with them or scale the difficulty back. Even at level 50, I can't protect the npcs. Chocobo escorts are crazy difficult as well. Its outside of a level 20 camp and even 2 level 50s cant successfully protect them. Aside from that, I love the difficulty

Decent Challenge is now a decent challenge.. and i accept that challenge! SquareEnix, you have made this game playable!

level 20-30 does seem rather tricky even in a party but why play a game that isnt? i only struggled because i took the same axe from level 20 to 30 anyway so its my own fault :P

Im happy with the direction the game is going in, i only wish that the power levelling exploit is fixed before the next patch..!

Monsters' speed attack is the only thing that I feel unbalanced. Hell, they keep hitting like killing machines.
I know that's what they are supossed to do, but I guess they must have a delay (not a big one, though) just like us players. I'm not talking about pre-1.19 situation, but please, don't give 'em more caffeine... It seems they have taken all Yoshi-P's energy drinks...

Was in an exp party yesterday (mid-thirty, 8 ppl) and we were killing doblyns lvl 40+. Man, that was so much fun and rewarding. We got 2 to 4 links (if we weren't careful) and often died. But the exp made up for it. No standing around for hours as in XI too. That's what I want 'grinding' to be.

Fun, challenging and rewarding. Thanks, Yoshi and team! :D

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Greetings! Mocchi gathered information from Matsui about why players are feeling as if battle is much more difficult now then prior to patch 1.19.

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Originally Posted by Mocchi

Hello.

I would like to talk a little bit about battle balance.

In our most recent patch, we made some adjustments so that the improvements of leveling up or upgrading gear are more noticeable. (As a result, defeating an opponent with a much higher level or defeating an opponent who usually requires 8 players with only 2 players will be much more difficult to pull off. Despite these changes, please understand that it is not our intention to do away with the impact of player skills.) Overall, we believe that we have been able to achieve what we desired for battles, but more detailed individual adjustments may become necessary as play continues.

As mentioned in another post, players may feel that they are stronger or weaker based on how they have distributed their physical bonuses, and it will require some trial and error to get a good feel for the materia system and other new gear. I feel that it will take a few days to become accustomed to the changes.

In patch 1.19, monster stats have been altered, physical level and physical bonuses have been removed, damage calculations have been changed, and gear stats have been reviewed, so there will be situations where past knowledge and experience will not apply anymore. Furthermore, the patch has just been released, so I understand that players may feel uncomfortable with the changes. With that said, I would greatly appreciate it if you submit your opinions and feedback after you get a better feel for the changes by testing things out for a few days. (I am not saying that your feedback now is pointless! Rather, I would like to compare the reactions immediately after the patch with the feedback after some time has passed.)

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The only problem I see with this is the time having passed when SE reevaluates might not adequately portray what is going on in game. The people who don't like the patch will drop, and thus stop posting the their feelings, and the people who stay will have won. One way or another, this game will head in one of the two camp's direction. The rest who don't post will just be along for the ride.