When/Why were you vote kicked?

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Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

How did I deserve it? The DRK had full enmity, and I only tried to punt the enemy against the wall. But again, our DPS was fine. DRK was fine. I don't know what the problem with people and KB skills is.

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Using knockback moves when tank has full aggro on the mob is considered harrassment, and in most cases it's usually true. You were asked not to do something, and you didn't even explain yourself. I'd have asked you to explain yourself, were I the tank, but in this case he had the right to votekick you.

KB moves are kind of a pain for everyone they knock enemies out of AoE's and out the range of the Tank's rotation. If you must use them then keep them for very narrow areas where the mob won't really move or leave it as something to use if a stray mob aggros on you and you don't want to run in the middle of a bunch of mobs to have the Tank pull it off you. A punt back to the Tank's position can be helpful at times.

Simple point is this.

Tanks Jobs
Position mobs
Hold threat
Stay Alive
Use Cooldowns to stay alive

When you use knockbacks, you drastically limit the ability of a tank to do 3/4 of their responsibility. That is harassment. The ONLY reason to use KB is if the tank fails to hold threat and you're in danger. Was in a group with 2 MCH last night who refused to not KB. Kept joking they wated to PUSH their dps. Morons dont realize, their one ability doesn't outweigh tank dps that is lost. Had to make them kick me. Don't tank for trolls.

I didn't really get votekicked, but it's pretty much the same so it fits right in:
Back when I was learning T13 with randoms (no static for me :x), I found a rare party in pf that was explicitly for people who were all new to the encounter, training from phase 1 (I had been further ahead already, but that didn't matter to me).
Shortly before we got full, 2 veterans joined because they wanted to help out some newbies like us. Okay, party full, we started the fight, I got one of the first earthshakers and protected myself with manawall because the healers couldn't be bothered to heal me, survived. Got the second earthshaker too, no more manawall, no heal, regen, shield or anything, died.
At some point the first phase ended and I had no ress. The second phase went by and I still didn't get raised despite asking for it several times in pt chat ._.
The party failed to kill the adds on time and we went out of the instance. The two "nice" veterans demanded party lead, then said they want the party to clear it in the next 40 minutes so they'll kick anyone who doesn't pull their weight. Subsequently I was kicked after being told that I dealt way too less dmg. When I explained that it's kind of hard to deal dmg while lying on the ground dead, the rest of the party procceeded to tell me that I just shouldn't have died in the first place and the great veterans are always right.
It wasn't a votekick, but since everyone 'voted' me worst DPS, it felt pretty much the same.

The only good thing about it was that after that, they tried to find replacements for a whole hour until they just gave up without having done anything :D

I was vote kicked once because while doing daily roulette low dungeon aurum vale, I did not let the seedlings hatch for the little bit of exp that would of given. I thought was bit harsh since no one asked permission or even mentioned they wanted a full clear exp run. Overall though I didn't care that much as I just popped myself back into DR and did another quicker and simpler low level dungeon with other people. In my opinion I did nothing wrong based on the fact no-one asked for a full clear exp run in AV and to be honest I thought it was more rude for them to just assume everyone there was okay to do such and not bother asking everyone if was okay with doing so. I think that's the only time I have actually been vote kicked in past year+.

I was first kicked at a Crystal Tower run (when it was a new place and there was only one loot a week limit, we all wore mostly items worse than the potential drops). I just find myself out of the dungeon after a boss, everything had been normal. I didn't know what had happened until I thought about vote kick. I looked and the other tank, and himself other several members (more than 50%) were from the same server and FC. Probably the other tank wanted the loot of next boss and saw I also needed it and asked his friends to kick me. I reported them.

Other time I had a 90000 or similar server error d/c and when I managed to log in back I had been kicked (normal, people can't be expected to wait many minutes, 5 min is the usual politeness I think.)

Also a very long time ago at WP when people were ilvl 60 or less, the big Tonberry caught us and I ran in opposite direction than the healer, who got aggro of the mobs and didn't stop running. I followed him but couldn't catch him nor get aggro back. I was called useless and kicked. Joined another party and finished a nice run very soon later.

I was also kicked once, with no previous apparent problems in a party where the other 3 were from the same server and FC. No explanations. I couldn't guess the motive (no wipes, no problems.)

I think there are people who tend to use vote kick too easily in Duty Finder. Being afk or disconnected for a long enough time clearly are reasons, or trolling on purpose like repeatedly doing early pulls on purpose in WoD to harass the group. I vote "No" in all vote kicks I don't find justified, even if the player is worse than the rest or makes a lot of mistakes.

Being not so good as the rest or making mistakes are no reason to kick in DF. Rolling need is of course no reason to kick, even if the item is worse than the one you have. You might want it for your retainer, for glamour or for getting GC seals. Edit: If somebody asks for a loot and I would just sell it at the GC I would pass and let them have it, of course. Anyway, rolling for something is not a cause for vote kick.

Other thing is a Party Finder group where the leader has the possibility to kick.

I have only been vote kicked once because I disconnected in the middle. That was back when I was a dps. Now I main healer and although I still got those 90002 errors often, never got kicked again.

Maybe dps has a higher chance to get kicked when dc than healer/tank? Just lol.

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Originally Posted by JonBigwood

I think there are people who tend to use vote kick too easily in Duty Finder. Being afk or disconnected for a long enough time clearly are reasons, or trolling on purpose like repeatedly doing early pulls on purpose in WoD to harass the group. I vote "No" in all vote kicks I don't find justified, even if the player is worse than the rest or makes a lot of mistakes.

Being not so good as the rest or making mistakes are no reason to kick in DF. Rolling need is of course no reason to kick, even if the item is worse than the one you have. You might want it for your retainer, for glamour or for getting GC seals.

Other thing is a Party Finder group where the leader has the possibility to kick.

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Abuse of kick is pretty common in every MMO. It is definitely worse when the majority of a party are friends or come from the same FC they tend to have a group mentality and gang up on people when things are not going well or somebody in their group wants a particular kind of loot. Had people make threats to me before that if I roll on something they will kick me. A lot of the time if somebody actually needs the gear as a decent upgrade and they ask me at the start of the run if they can have it I'll probably pass for them even if I wanted it for my retainer or a glamour but if somebody threatens me I'll do absolutely all I can to make their life miserable.

I recall this one WoD when I was in a group with some other FC and the Healers in the whole raid were pretty useless the whole run got to last boss I'm pretty much the only one who heals the MT on last boss in another party including that party's own healers and people screw up meteors and we wipe. In party chat they are all bitching at me claiming I'm not healing them and saying the BLM had to help heal. I threw up medica II and cure III post meteor but they didn't think gathering around the WHM was a good idea and instead stuck to various corners of the room. Earlier in the run the SCH had demanded all the healing gear or they would kick me and stop me getting my weekly kill. None had dropped so far.

So we start over I'm getting a ton of abuse in party. I refuse to heal any of them until they apologise. First AoE Bard in my part gets it and tries to draw it into me to kill me but I move and he dies and I say how much a waste of time that was. We finished this time I help with meteors and healing MT again. Healer item drops and I don't roll just let the timer run while they abuse me and the group leaves so it's just me and the SCH while I run in circles as the timer ticks. At 5 seconds I roll need and get the drop. SCH abuses me some more and says they will report me for trolling and ninja looting. I wished them luck with that and went on my way.

a labor to remember a time that i have ever been votekicked

if ever it was probably because i zoned into a dungeon that took forever to replenish it's ranks and i started playing ps4 and forgot about it

it is very unusual for me to have problems in a party

Just got vote kicked from ak after the healer(who was with me) and I 2 manned the first boss of ak in high level roulette. Too bad for them waiting on a healer lol

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Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

How did I deserve it? The DRK had full enmity, and I only tried to punt the enemy against the wall. But again, our DPS was fine. DRK was fine. I don't know what the problem with people and KB skills is.

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There was a machinist who used that knock back move when i was tanking dusk vigil, the ice sprite got knockbacked to the iced door which makes it practically out of reach for melee to attack, and the machinist just laughed on it..

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Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

How did I deserve it? The DRK had full enmity, and I only tried to punt the enemy against the wall. But again, our DPS was fine. DRK was fine. I don't know what the problem with people and KB skills is.

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Facks with positionals.

I was vote kicked from a garuda EX as a bard a few months ago.

What happened was the other bard in the group was newer to the fight and we told him not to attack the spiny plume until others did so.
Well he killed it the first time with DoTs, the tank in the group verified by looking in the chat log.
So we try again, this time the other bard kills the spiny by auto attacking it, causing us to wipe once again. Tank verified in the chat log it was the same bard again.
I point out that I wont even touch the spiny plume to prove that it is not me.
We go a third time, get down to about 25% and the spiny plume shows up, low and behold it slowly starts dying and the whm notices two DoTs on it from bard.
I was still attacking one of the sisters at the time and the spiny died and yet again, killed by the other bard.
Tank gets upset after the wipe and goes "ok it was this bard three times in a row" Next thing I know I am looking at the loading screen and back in Mor Dhona

Only time I've ever been kicked was 2 days ago.

My uncle had just hit 59 and wanted me to take him through the Gubal Library, so I agree (he's a tank, I'm a healer), we get to the first boss, some hiccups with people dying but we get through it.

Loot the chest, walk up to pull the next mob, aaaand I got punted out of the dungeon.

So ofc I'm just sitting there like uuuuh ?? My uncle starts laughing and says the dps booted me so we're talking about it and the only thing we could think of is maybe they were offended by my resurrection macro when they died.

<t> why do you pay $15 a month to die?

So my uncle left the dungeon and we were just kinda laughing about how that's 2 dps who now need to wait another 20~ mins for their dungeon for no reason.

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Originally Posted by Visys

<t> why do you pay $15 a month to die?

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This so belongs in this thread. LOL.
Thanks for the chuckle.

I got kicked from Brayflox Normal during my low level roulette a few days ago. Everyone was level synced, no one said anything but me saying hello and as a SMN would, I would bane my dots when the tank pulls a group. Sure, the occasional mob would peel off to me but the tank got it back pretty quickly and we were off on our merry way! I did this during the first boss and only the second set of adds ran to me but that was right before we killed the boss. All in all, we cleared it pretty well. After we killed the first drake harassing the first goblin right after the boss, everyone stopped moving. Then I was out of the dungeon.

Didn't tell me if I did wrong! It was just silence then poof! Out of the dungeon! Kinda dragged my mood down. I can only imagine the tank didn't like me baning my dots but if that was the case, they could have said so and I would have stopped. :(

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Originally Posted by Ronove

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If you aren't pulling threat, you aren't dpsing hard enough. Never hold back on dpsing unless a mechanic requires it.

Wasn't kicked but started to notice trend in kicking machinist every time I see one. I end up asking what did he deserve kick for ? I get "Coz mch is weak waste of time" mch is support class not Jesus bullet top dps I ended up leaving the party.

Got booted from WP HM a few weeks ago for only half speed running. Right after the second boss, I pull a group. Ninja tells me "keep going" when I stopped running to tank the group. I said "nope". Right after that fight I see healer sad face on chat and a sec later I'm booted. No dialog was had. Just a vote dismiss. Mind you, I was trying my best to compromise and pull a couple of groups at at time. I hate speed running when I tank and when I heal, but still I was trying to be nice and compromise. Four man dungeons should require 3 votes to boot. No reason why half the party should be majority.

I reported the dude. Nothing probably happened but I thought something needed to be done. Hopefully if enough people report unwarranted dismisses, SE will look into improving the system.

I have never been kicked since I start playing this game in 2010.

Until this month I was kicked twice while leveling my dragoon. Both times it was a group of three friends, I'd get blamed for something and just kicked, without any warning.

Really upsetting, I think I will be taking a break for a while because of this.

I can't remember all the times I've vote kicked, because I don't do it very often. Someone has to be utterly egregious in order for me to go for the nuclear option.

Only been kicked once and it was on last boss of neverreap, my first time in there as blm and i was sort of lost and got hit by twisters a few times. Group wiped (i was not the first one dead mind you) and they vote kicked me

The first and only vote kick I got was in an AK Hard run, which that dungeon is insanely easy. It was the second boss, we wiped three times because the dps wouldn't kill the martyr. Ya know, that one add that has the only AOE attack that can possibly lead to a wipe? Ya, after two wipes I got on chat and told them to "kill the martyr first," then was kicked. I was pretty upset at first, but then I realized that they were morons and saved me the 30 minute lockout penalty. People suck, but you gotta have thick skin in this game. If it happens, curse them and then move on to a party that isn't completely retarded.

Got my first kick this week during a Vault run, and it was very strange. Everything seemed to be going just fine, no wipes, and we had just finished the second boss. There hadn't been a single word spoken by anyone outside of the initial "Hello". I had passed on all the loot rolls, so I know that couldn't be it. With no warning, I found myself back in Idyllshire with the "You've been dismissed" message. I still have no idea why I was kicked.

General observation: If you're going to kick someone, at least have the balls to tell them why you're doing so. Kicking in the middle of a seemingly fine run with no warning is just weaksauce.

The only time I was kicked (yesterday), was in a normal Qarn on my AST. The tank pulled multiple mobs (including 4 bees). He died from 4 final stings. I told him "you don't want to pull 4 bees". Him and his friend vote kicked me because I told him how to tank. I laughed, qued up, got in the same group and vote kicked the tabk (second dps voted yes), and forced his friend to get the 30 minute penalty.
It was magnificent.

I've only been kicked once, in the World of Darkness. Apparently screwing up and dying a couple times against the Five-Headed Dragon is "harassment"...

I've been kicked repeatedly simply because I didn't speak JP. Not because I didn't know the dungeon or the fight but because I joined and I didn't respond in Jp but instead <I don't speak Japanese> and they waited and kicked. Happened a number of times. Finally when came back to the game the first order of business was a server xfer.

I think the only time I was kicked was because I asked for it. It was near the end of aery that I started lagging heavily to the point I couldn't dodge anything(which was bad because I was the healer)

I was kicked from my first lighthouse dungeon run. When we got to the first boss I was asking for the tactics, and the reply was "Just stack, lol.". You can imagine the crapload of incoming damage from all the debuff explosions...

Unfortunately this was at a time where the dungeon was quite new (overgearing was out of the question and my equipment barely met the requirement). After a few tries the group had an enlighment: the healer doesn't have enough HP! Hence vote kick.

I got kicked today for the first time in the a little over a year since started playing this game.

It was an Aery run and we were on the 2nd boss when I noticed something was going strange with my game. I let my party know right after the fight that I will be away for like 1 minute to fix it, but before i can even do anything suddenly I find myself kicked.

Seems people cant even handle 1 minute of not moving in this game. Im not sure if im lucky or not that they arent in my server

Was running the 1st level of Alexander the other day for my drop and the minute it cued three players who had apparently run together previously let into each other the minute thet saw each other's screen names. Chaos ensued, we wiped because of their bickering, I called them out in an attempt to organize everything so we could get the clear, got kicked before the second attempt.

By the gods I've never been so happy to be kicked. Totally dodged a bullet on that one before I wound up piling on a 3000 gil repair bill.

I was kicked once from Garuda EX when because someone didn't like having a SMN in the party because my Garuda-egi might "go out of control and kill spiny". I ended up getting back into the same group during the next pull, and about 30 seconds in, both the SCH and the WHM died. I raised both. Things were still pretty shaky after that-- we had a loldrg and a lolmnk that kept dying to tornadoes, and the SCH and WHM were not very good about getting into the spiny bubble either. At one point about 50% into Garuda's HP pool, I got 90k'd, and came back in about 2 minutes later. SCH was dead again, and the WHM had double rez sickness and no MP (and the only other DPS staying alive was a ninja so we couldn't get a Ballad up). I think I must've spent about 95% of the fight raising and healing instead of DPSing.


When we cleared and the casting ring dropped, I obviously rolled Need on it (since it was still a viable piece at the time). The SCH was evidently mad at me for coming back into the party and decided to not roll on the loot but just "happen to afk" for the amount of time it took for the chest to time out.

I was recently kicked for being Go Guy.

Good times.

I got vote kicked for the first time about a week ago in Tam-Tara while running a low level roulette on WHM. It was after the first miniboss, where I had ripped hate on one of the imps at one point because I was dpsing but otherwise everything was going smoothly. Loot was one of the plundered items, which I greed rolled for and didn't get. Then everyone stood there for a moment and... I wasn't in the dungeon anymore. No party chat, nothing. I'm still at a loss.

While I haven't been kicked yet, thank gods since I've only been playing for a month, I've experienced ppl leaving cuz of me. More specific it was during my first ever run of the vault final boss, I told them it was my first time here yet nodoby would tell me tact. First attempt and we wiped, everyone took constant damage and I ran out of MP trying to heal. I asked if anyone would explain tact and they politely did. 2nd try and same deal. Admittedly I kinda messed up on the chains. One DPS went on to rudely call me out on it and left group. Tank just went offline or afk while dead at that point, we waited a while before replacing him since he never said a word. I felt bad at that point cuz i wasnt happy about running out of mp and felt it was my fault. The remaining DPS kindly told me he would stay and help me through. New tank and DPS joined, we oneshot it and I never once had less than 70% MP. I suspect that maybe I was voted out but it didn't go through

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Originally Posted by NyxVampiria

...The remaining DPS kindly told me he would stay and help me through. New tank and DPS joined, we oneshot it and I never once had less than 70% MP.

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You did everything that could be expected in the situation, at least one person in group recognized that. Try to never let the poor attitude of the jerk population (which is significantly smaller group of the player base) dissuade you from enjoying the game.

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Originally Posted by NyxVampiria

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That boss is hard on healers, even experienced ones. But he basically relies on blinding your screen with Alter Pyre >_>.

When you're tethered, you need to run in the opposite direction. This can also be part of a nasty combo he likes to use where he'll summon horses + ground AOE + alter pyre(the unavoidable AOE attack) + tether. Alter Pyre is going to make seeing the chain hard to see with all those retarded effects. Usually not knowing you're chained til it's too late, OR because gap in horses is really tight AND ground AOEs "closing" the gap so to speak.

If you did not get kicked because you fit in the few categories that are listed then please contact a GM. This is something that seems to be getting worse. Unless the GM's are told nothing will change. I have reported being kicked and talked to a GM who said they would take action.

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Originally Posted by ChameleonMS

You did everything that could be expected in the situation, at least one person in group recognized that. Try to never let the poor attitude of the jerk population (which is significantly smaller group of the player base) dissuade you from enjoying the game.

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Seconded. FFXIV's elitist population is vastly outnumbered by decent, patient players. The elitists don't realize how outnumbered they are because they're self-centered twits who can't see past their issues. Screw 'em, they're miserable gits beneath their bluster. If it takes max performance at a game in order to feel like a useful member of society, how awful must one's life truly be?

I finally got kicked out of a grp on my NIN, I was doing low level Roullete it was Manor NM and the tank wanted to keep making large pulls but would only use his AOE once and not even try to keep agro on the mobs, he was treating the class (DRK) as a dps, he was also the only one there for exp so he pulled every side room. after a while of nearly dying to every pull, I stopped attack groups that didn't need to die to get to the next boss. So I would just stand there since me even using one rotation of my combos meant I would nearly die. so I got vote kicked. Meh, I have no problem helping people out on exp but if they won't even make an attempt to do their roles then why should I make an attempt to help them?