Yoshi, your reply to Q22 in the XVIII Live Letter was false and dishonest.

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Originally Posted by Penguinmayhem

Isn't the real reason simply mechanical? It would just take way too much more programming to make glamours work the way people want them to because of how they interact with the gear system.

I certainly wouldn't mind being able to put my Alchemists' Boots onto some of my other outfits.

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Outside of opening the system for everything that's not AF (I'd also throw in tomestone gear and drops from coil, because those are also designed around the jobs that use them), the only other thing I can think of would be allowing crafters to sort of..."devalue" gear. For example, you have the standard Iron Sabatons with its stats that only GLA/PLD and MRD/WAR can equip. A blacksmith would do something to it to turn it into lv1 gear with no stats and 0 defense but thus removing all class restrictions. It'd massively increase the amount of database space requiredf for gear, but I can't think of anything that wouldn't involve overhauling glamours.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

Outside of opening the system for everything that's not AF (I'd also throw in tomestone gear and drops from coil, because those are also designed around the jobs that use them), the only other thing I can think of would be allowing crafters to sort of..."devalue" gear. For example, you have the standard Iron Sabatons with its stats that only GLA/PLD and MRD/WAR can equip. A blacksmith would do something to it to turn it into lv1 gear with no stats and 0 defense but thus removing all class restrictions. It'd massively increase the amount of database space requiredf for gear, but I can't think of anything that wouldn't involve overhauling glamours.

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That's not a terrible idea because it would give me what I want and continue to stimulate crafters. But I don't want to think about how much gil I would need to wear what I want. I'm not a crafter. :(

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Originally Posted by kyuven

PS3/character data limitations. Not kidding. Go read the Q&A under the question for why they won't add tackle boxes. If they won't add a separate box for the relatively small number (compared to the number of armor pieces) of different kinds of bait, i doubt they'll add vanity slots that would basically tax the system even more than that.

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...but it wouldn't tax the system any more than the glamour system already does. Take Lord of the Rings Online, for instance; you don't keep the gear in your inventory. You equip it to your vanity slots and you put it away. If I remember correctly, you don't even have to keep it. This would, in fact, take up LESS data than the current system, because in the current system it has to keep track of every classes' equipment AND the glamours for each bit of equipment, where for this you'd just have a single vanity 'set' that takes precedence over any equipped gear. You could then have multiple vanity sets that you could switch back and forth between. You wouldn't have to re-glamour every time you got new gear, either.

Ultimately, their excuses are thin and not very good.

The only thing I want them to do right now is fix freaking Odin's armor so that I can glamour it to useful armor.

http://i.imgur.com/eMY6AWE.png

First person to guess what job that person I just met in Snowcloak is on gets a like.

So yeah. Don't want to confuse the new players with tanks in mage gear, right?

I'm gonna guess Bard.

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Originally Posted by Cutie_McSnuggles

I'm gonna guess Bard.

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Wrong. Keep trying!

Thats gross.... White mage?

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Originally Posted by Riepah

First person to guess what job that person I just met in Snowcloak is on gets a like.

So yeah. Don't want to confuse the new players with tanks in mage gear, right?

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Ninja. Everyone and their mother is playing it still.

It's a Black Mage!!

Y'know, this topic is tempting me to glamour the Hempen Hat (basically a "witch hat" - all classes can use it) on my monk.

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Originally Posted by Riepah

http://i.imgur.com/eMY6AWE.png

First person to guess what job that person I just met in Snowcloak is on gets a like.

So yeah. Don't want to confuse the new players with tanks in mage gear, right?

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It's a Jack-in-the-box!

Warrior Or Paladin But I'm going warrior.

I played a game where you could glamour tank gear onto mages. It didn't confuse anyone at all. The minute that guy in tank gear attacks you obviously know what class they are -.- it's a terrible excuse. New players won't be confused at all. Er may gerd that goi is wurring a heavy armors but he's using a staff and casting moogics IM SO CUNFuZZeLED- said no one ever

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Originally Posted by Pyretta_Blaze

Thats gross.... White mage?

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This person had it right. Sorry for the late response!

I think it's a prime example of "could you please tell us the REAL reason, SE?"

The fact alone we have no clue what Job that player is invalidates Yoshi's point.

At the very least, items that are merely recolored should not have this restriction. That pesky enemy ninja in the ninja storyline shows up at the end in a Hussar's Jackcoat, which is lnc/drg only depite just being a black version of the Fistfighter's Jacket (pug/mnk). Apparently it's okay for npc's to "rebel" against the fashion rules, just not us.

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Originally Posted by Cutie_McSnuggles

That's not a terrible idea because it would give me what I want and continue to stimulate crafters. But I don't want to think about how much gil I would need to wear what I want. I'm not a crafter. :(

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Well, that's dependent on whether the item to remove stats would be something like "toenail clips of Bahamut" that have a 0.00000001% chance of dropping or being brought in from retainer ventures. Then you'd see prices skyrocket.

THIS. So ××××ing much this, thank you OP - it's been so damn blatant ever since...hell, ever since the betas where we saw mage gear labeled as "All classes" while DoW gear had class/job restrictions pretty much everywhere.... >.< reading that even during the live letter when it got translated made me frown so damn much, I mean honestly... what the actual fridge?? Really just one of those things that's blown my mind ages ago - not even from the perspective Yoshi presented (which is utter codswallop apparently, and frankly, besides false and dishonest, I also find insulting), but from the sheer fact that how many more options DoW classes/jobs have to glamour with the unrestricted mage gear, than vice versa.

So yeah, just... either give us the real reason or actually rethink the restrictions, heck, I wouldn't even mind if mage gear became restricted to...y'know...mage classes, just have some consistency, for Menphina's sake, because this neither-here-nor-there way as it is now is just plain ridiculous.

And while we're at it, kindly remove gender restrictions too, especially in gear pairs where one is restricted to females and the other is without restriction again... And no, thank you, I'm not interested in how difficult it would be - not asking for it to happen overnight, but do make it happen please.

I'd rather they shore up the restrictions personally. Being able to glamour holiday / event gear onto battle gear was a terrible descision to begin with.

Consistently restrict the system better rather than just open the flood gates even more as people are suggesting.

It's insulting that he underestimates players intelligence as an excuse for not having a certain feature in game.

Simply saying "that's not the image we want in our game" is good enough. Fine, we understand.

But saying that players will be SO confused is a slap in the face. Its safe to assume we played other mmorpgs and other offline RPGs.

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Originally Posted by myahele

Simply saying "that's not the image we want in our game" is good enough. Fine, we understand.

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...would understand, if, as I said, it was consistent, and we wouldn't see mages in speedos and tanks in nightgowns. As it is though, it's insulting to think that we can't see the inconsistency.