Drop support for the PC version. It's holding the game back.

[QUOTE=Ghetto_Ganker;2284720]apparently you pc dudes cant read either...

I can read just fine,

1) The pc my wife bought me was far more than 4 times what your PS4 was, and it will do things your PS4 will never do, none of this really matters, just like your whole post.

All you have proven here is that you either cant save money for a PC, or are just in a lower tax bracket.

It may also be that your just smart enough to drive an entry model car instead of a luxury "rig" and just keep the money banked or invested, but I doubt it.

3) Wrong, you have no idea how hacked PS4 will get, or how long it will take, you make assumptions with no knowledge, epic fail.

4) Calling another poster an idiot is a personal attack, against forum rules, bad form, epic fail.

On rare occasions, trying to tell people how well you read and how smart you are, just illuminates the obvious, well done.

PS4 runs the game great for only $400 and has built in party chat. Only 8 ppl? So? Last I checked, that was a full party. PC's have greater potential, absolutely. But it's only as good as you build it to be. Console convenience wins in my book. But hey, some people have to have the best possible setup to be happy.

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Whether or not PC pirates outnumber console pirates is beside the point. Your argument was that PC games end up on torrent trackers the same day; the fact is that: no matter what, if the software has traction behind it, it will end up on a tracker. But, then, you don't actually have an argument against that. Probably why you had to fall back to, "PCs hav moar pirats then consules derp." So, again: hate to burst your bubble, but pirating is suffered on all mediums. You can take your 2-bit condescension and stow that while you're at it.

Well eso will have platform based servers for consoles. So if u dnt like the way xiv works you Could always go there :l

I play this on ps4 and my only issue in terms of cross platform is the lack of ingame voice chat making it practically impossible to chat with your party unless theyre all on the same platform.

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Well eso will have platform based servers for consoles. So if u dnt like the way xiv works you Could always go there :l

I play this on ps4 and my only issue in terms of cross platform is the lack of ingame voice chat making it practically impossible to chat with your party unless theyre all on the same platform.

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Should ask the dev team here to ask sony if they would make a program that would cross chat with pc to ps4.

this way people could install same thing that the ps4 has and talk.

If SE wants to drop anything, it would definitely be console players. Lesser revenue loss. #truestory.

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Well eso will have platform based servers for consoles. So if u dnt like the way xiv works you Could always go there :l

I play this on ps4 and my only issue in terms of cross platform is the lack of ingame voice chat making it practically impossible to chat with your party unless theyre all on the same platform.

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Should ask the dev team here to ask sony if they would make a program that would cross chat with pc to ps4.

this way people could install same thing that the ps4 has and talk.

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would be nice to see something like teamspeak on the PS4. maybe someday

I play on both PC and PS3.

That is all.

Hey!
I were out due to weekend and noticed to have missed 13 pages of "PC vs Console" warforum, I'd like share the fun, therefore I made this post!

PC are superior on ALL! And PS4 pwns! 'nuff said!

No .

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4) Calling another poster an idiot is a personal attack, against forum rules, bad form, epic fail.

On rare occasions, trying to tell people how well you read and how smart you are, just illuminates the obvious, well done.

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And vaguely having a snide dig at someones intelligence, working status, lifestyle and financial ability isn't considered a personal attack? All followed by being unable to quote a person properly?

*whistles* Kids in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

I'll leave my two cents here.

You have a market with a 20% share for PS4 players, 20% share for PS3 (I'm being generous.) and a 60% share for PC gamers which are the core MMO enthusiasts.

What company in their right mind would even remotely consider shelving their biggest marketshare?

That's all.

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They should remove the game from PC, PS3 and PS4, it's holding back the game on PS2.

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they should remove WoW, its holding back XIV

Sounds great! When should I expect my complimentary PS4 in the mail?

The lack of memory and fast hard drives is a really limiting factor.

hahaha omg hilarious! Love it! xD

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lmao, it's a joke with a funny zinger. Why are there so many people taking this thread seriously.

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Yeah a few pages in and I'm kinda surprised at you guys (I should know better.) It's just in response to the "Playstation holding us back" threads and all the threads about pc apps that may or may not be cheating. :rolleyes:

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The lack of memory and fast hard drives is a really limiting factor.

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Of which you yourself can fix like I did. It's quite easy to upgrade your PS3 Hard Drive (and even PS4 but no real need to).

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Yeah a few pages in and I'm kinda surprised at you guys (I should know better.) It's just in response to the "Playstation holding us back" threads and all the threads about pc apps that may or may not be cheating. :rolleyes:

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A lot of these folks are brand new to the franchise - they didn't spend a decade with us in XI so they have no idea what we are talking about.

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Of which you yourself can fix like I did. It's quite easy to upgrade your PS3 Hard Drive (and even PS4 but no real need to).

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I was being sarcastic since this was a "drop pc" version thread.

Pretty hilarious, how uptight folks are getting about a thread that was an obvious "take that" against similar "Drop teh dum consoles!" threads. Still, as long as everyone's ranting and raving, I might as well pour some of my own gasoline on the fire...

"Your point is invalid because consoles can be hacked tooooo!!!!" - This is true. However, cheat tools are MUCH easier to implement on PC. You don't have to mod your PC to get them to work like you do a console. You don't have to have a SCRAP of programming or hardware savvy. You just go to cheat dot cheat dot cheat dot omgcheeeeeaaat dot com, download the tool you want, install, and bam - you're good to go. While cheaters may also exist on platform, this means they will be FAR outnumbered by the cheaters on PC.

While I can't say for sure whether this has happened yet on FFXIV, in FFXI certain tools were so widespread that it was EXPECTED for at least some of the higher-ups in linkshells to be using these tools. For some of the harder content, it was expected that EVERYONE be using cheats to one degree or another - I've known people who wouldn't run Nyzul Isle (a very time-restrictive instanced event) unless every member had tools that would allow you to see through walls, for instance. I anticipate that the same will happen in FFXIV, as more and more difficult content is added.

And, on the flip side of the argument...

"Consoles are not holding back development of the game!!!" - Yes, they are. They totally are. It's the nature of the beast - consoles are locked in stasis, and upgrading them with newer and better technology is difficult (or, at least, unsupported - why would Sony want to upgrade current platforms when they make a mint by selling whole new consoles instead?). In FFXI, SE developers flat out stated that certain things are difficult or impossible due to "PS2 limitations". They stopped using this excuse pretty quick when it resulted in horrendous PC-vs-Console rivalry (or, at least, added a lot of fuel to the fire), but it seems that the FFXIV devs haven't learned from that mistake as they've started using the same excuse for this game. Whether they outright use that excuse, though, or whether they tactfully refrain from explaining just why they can't do such-and-such a thing, it still remains true.

Of course, even with PC-only MMOs, they aren't constantly riding the cutting edge of technology. Whenever new PC technology is going to be embraced, developers need to carefully consider how expensive it will be to update the game to use the new technology, and how many gamers on older PCs are going to be left behind - and some WILL be left behind; not everyone can afford to buy a new high-end PC every time a game evolves beyond their PC's capabilities!

In the end, it's pretty much a pointless argument. FFXIV is a cross-platform game, and was designed as such. SE has made an unusual and controversial choice in stating that PS3 will eventually be discontinued - but this is likely because PS3 was already nearing the end of its lifespan when FFXIV came out. PS4 is shiny-new, and FFXIV will play well on it for many years to come. Look at FFXI - it is STILL tied to PS2, even now. US support for PS2 was dropped, but PS2 is still supported in EU and (most importantly, from SE's perspective) JP regions, and therefore FFXI on PC is still limited to what can be done on PS2.

Nice topic :D

Can SE please implements a way for PC player to detect the consoles crappytos (for obvious reasons)?

cancel both pc and ps releases and put the game on Atari.

Problem= Solved.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tari2600jr.jpg

I played ffxi for years on ps2, I told myself I was going to play ffxiv on a PC to see what everyone was talking about, it can't be that much better could it? Yup. It is. Much better. I'll never play an MMO on a console again if it has a PC counterpart.

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Whether or not PC pirates outnumber console pirates is beside the point. Your argument was that PC games end up on torrent trackers the same day; the fact is that: no matter what, if the software has traction behind it, it will end up on a tracker. But, then, you don't actually have an argument against that. Probably why you had to fall back to, "PCs hav moar pirats then consules derp." So, again: hate to burst your bubble, but pirating is suffered on all mediums. You can take your 2-bit condescension and stow that while you're at it.

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Would you get a clue I have a high end PC and a PS4 and I can tell you no one is stupid enough to hack on PS4 when PC is so easy. Are you seriously trying to compare? Please don't reply you are too ignorant to have a conversation about this.

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Would you get a clue I have a high end PC and a PS4 and I can tell you no one is stupid enough to hack on PS4 when PC is so easy. Are you seriously trying to compare? Please don't reply you are too ignorant to have a conversation about this.

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The conversation seems pretty pointless anyway. You need a mogstation account with a valid game key, and game keys can't be pirated. The whole conversation is pointless in the context of FFXIV.

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The conversation seems pretty pointless anyway. You need a mogstation account with a valid game key, and game keys can't be pirated. The whole conversation is pointless in the context of FFXIV.

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I wasn't aware you needed a mog station login for the scan app because then all these threads about hunt exploits would be pointless.

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I wasn't aware you needed a mog station login for the scan app because then all these threads about hunt exploits would be pointless.

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Well, you need it for the game... so what is your point?

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You're joking right? This has to be the stupidest thread post I've ever read on any forum. For a request such as this, I would not have expected anything less from a console peasant such as yourself OP (and those who agree with OP).

You do realize it's the console support that holds the game back (ex. lack of support for DirectX 11).

Epic & ultimate fix for gil sellers, RMT & bots. Bravo!

And how many console only MMOs are still around?

OH! 0? I wonder why.

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You're joking right? This has to be the stupidest thread post I've ever read on any forum. For a request such as this, I would not have expected anything less from a console peasant such as yourself OP (and those who agree with OP).

You do realize it's the console support that holds the game back (ex. lack of support for DirectX 11).

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And another one takes the bait. Need more popcorn....

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cancel both pc and ps releases and put the game on Atari.

Problem= Solved.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tari2600jr.jpg

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They already have a head start!

8-bit Titan Extreme

Please look forward to it

Why in the blue hell is this thread going on 16 pages?! Seriously! This is the dumbest troll thread ever! And some of the replies in it have been equally as stupid.

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Why in the blue hell is this thread going on 16 pages?! Seriously! This is the dumbest troll thread ever! And some of the replies in it have been equally as stupid.

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Fun fact. OP has posted once in this entire thread (I actually searched it!)...

Dumbest troll post you say? I say most epicest troll post.

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No. No she doesn't.

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Yeah, yeah she does. You're just indenial.

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Well, you need it for the game... so what is your point?

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So you need the mogstation for the radar app is that what you're saying? Really are you serious?

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Fun fact. OP has posted once in this entire thread (I actually searched it!)...

Dumbest troll post you say? I say most epicest troll post.

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That depends on your definition of "trolled" I guess. Was I trolled because I responded before saying this was the most ridiculous thread here? Not really, knew it was a joke; my comment was more about replies and also was a chance to take a cheap shot at other threads here being ridiculous.

Am I trolled here now cause I'm posting again? Again, not really. Just enjoying the troll's work, even if it's not the most successful. There's been other threads here that were trolling that were moreso.

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Actually Rockstar holding off the PC version was more about taking advantage of the sheer power that PCs are capable of and create a much more stunning world with increased features that consoles lack the memory to handle.

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And that op's glorious consoles were hacked and tons of people cheat on GTAO its funny to think they think consoles stop cheating... Cheaters will always find a way if op had their way in 6 months we will be playing FFXIV paper edition and we will still have cheaters.

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And vaguely having a snide dig at someones intelligence, working status, lifestyle and financial ability isn't considered a personal attack? All followed by being unable to quote a person properly?

*whistles* Kids in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

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lol nice try, if it isn't said it isn't said, he did, I didn't, implications are what your referring to not digs, next.

only ppl who been playing this pass year would say that where were they in 1.0 not on this game granted 1.0 sucked but p.c. player were the ones who kept it going fuck console player with your crying b/s