IS it just me... or is FFXIV boring?

Yes, it is boring.

WoW: hooked me for roughly 8 years.
Pre-cu SWG: hooked me of 1.5 years (8+ years emulator).
Rift: 9 months.
SWToR: 5 months.
AOC: 3 months.
Cabal: 3 months.
Runes of Magic: 4 months.
Requiem: 6 months.
UO: 2 years.
EQ: 2 years.
GW2: 1.5 years, still play it and is where I go after doing my myth cap...if it had trinity, I would not even have tried this game. heh.
Everything else: 1 month 'trial'.

This MMO, at least for launch has no hook and it's extremely light end game content wise. And no, I do not consider levelling a crafting class as 'content'...sorry hitting macros is dull.

Also like to point out that most those MMOs I was solo for most of them except WoW/pre-cu swg/Rift/EQ yet they still had enough things to do to keep me logging in daily.

FF 14: right now, past three weeks I log in one day per...just enough to do 8 AKs...

Ok yes, I guess this MMO is just not for me. Compared to all the MMOs I listed...MOST of them had min 2x the things to do than here + almost all of those MMOs had PvP at launch unlike here...each their own I guess.

p.s. problem is there a lack of decent MMOs right now and this particular one has been launched at the perfect time; there is an MMO drought right now. I like how the game plays and looks but I don't like that there is jack all really to do which is the problem. Also dislike their 3+ month time to release patches, I am going to guess that consoles might be to blame here since they are a) limited in capability b) have an extremely long process time to get patches 'passed'? Hum. GW2 is b2p, and runs purely on their gem store YET they can have content updates every 2 weeks but a 20 buck a month MMO cannot? Ok then.

This guy obviously did not play wow at launch like I did. I wanted to rebuke his lies but meh, a simple whatever buddy seems to be enough to satisfy me.

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Originally Posted by Krackjack

then your under the wrong impression, clearly!

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Okay so having more space with nothing to do but running around > smaller space with stuff to do. I'm clearly in the wrong here.

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Originally Posted by Ithilien

Specifically speaking to the black mage class... the rotation is so mind-numbingly boring and simple I can't believe it.

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The most fun DPS rotation I've had as a DPS in an MMO was Cata/MoP Arcane mage rotation. You know, that one that people often criticize as being 1 button? Honestly, that's fairly close. The rotation itself is dead simple, there's about 6 buttons total you'd use, and 3 of those are cooldowns for your burn period.
What makes it interesting is how the mechanic functions. Arcane Mages do more damage the more mana they have, yet their arcane blast does more damage and costs much more mana when chain casted. It becomes an interesting tug of war trying to maintain your mana at a decent level until you burn phase, bottom out your mana, and then regen it.

I think that overall, yes the rotation mechanics for dps are a bit too simple, but I complexity is added over the lifespan of an mmo

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Originally Posted by Krackjack

then your under the wrong impression, clearly!

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I believe you are quite biased and have a habit of grossly overvaluing your own opinion. If you dont think its worth the sub, then leave, you arent adding anything constructive to the community here and your comments border on abusive. I played WoW at launch, I played through the days where id be stuck picking up gold for 30 minutes because of server lag and quite honestly even with all the content most people did their own thing and never saw half of it. This game is interesting and has a good amount of potential. I am willing to give them time to find that potential, if you are not and want your cake now..then go to another bakery.

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Originally Posted by Miiu

Okay so having more space with nothing to do but running around > smaller space with stuff to do. I'm clearly in the wrong here.

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if by stuff to do, you mean absolutely nothing, then yes you are correct!

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Originally Posted by Bladenite81

I believe you are quite biased and have a habit of grossly overvaluing your own opinion. If you dont think its worth the sub, then leave, you arent adding anything constructive to the community here and your comments border on abusive. I played WoW at launch, I played through the days where id be stuck picking up gold for 30 minutes because of server lag and quite honestly even with all the content most people did their own thing and never saw half of it. This game is interesting and has a good amount of potential. I am willing to give them time to find that potential, if you are not and want your cake now..then go to another bakery.

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do i know you or something? you have quite the opinion of me for just a few posts.
but thanks for yor opinion, oh and i did eat my cake but its old and stale so i canceled my sub, goodbye brah

It's boring and I haven't logged in for a couple weeks now. Here's my list.

Fate grinding is just awful
Leve Quests are awful
Minimal quests once you finish 1 job and almost no quest after the 2nd job.

There's just nothing to do except a few instances every day and after a month of that I can't deal with it any more. Leveling a 2nd class is when it starts getting painful. The 3rd class is just tedious and near impossible without quests. And fate grinding is ok for maybe an hour. But I seriously can't deal with more then that a day. So I've pretty much given up until they fix this issue. The end game fights remind me of WoW and i'm here because I don't want to play WoW. So i'm very disappointed with the way these boss fights are.

I was hoping for a game more similar to FFXI and instead I get a WoW clone. bah

Only things that re boring re FATEs. My opinion.

The problem with this game is that it's entirely too linear for an MMO. Dungeon progression and gear progression go along on a single track and there's no reason to branch off from that track, in fact it's detrimental if you do.

There are distractions, like crafting and soon housing and PvP, but simply having distractions doesn't make for a very open MMO.

The biggest problem is that this game was designed such that 95% of its content is only done once.

This is why the game is so boring. Its not that the game itself is terribly boring, but that it was designed to rush you through the majority of its content and then you farm AK/WP for tomes. That's the sum of the endgame, and its really tragic.

I know people hate slow leveling curves in general but at least when it takes a while to level you get to stop and enjoy each zone and each dungeon and you run them multiple times.

This whole 'game starts at 50' developer philosophy sucks, and was a big mistake imo.

So yeah, I'm with you. I'm finding things to do like leveling alt classes and derping around with the (mostly useless) crafting system. And I'm still enjoying myself, but I suspect I'll be bored to tears by Christmas. I hope 2.1 keeps this game going... because as it stands I know I'm gonna burn out soon.

Yep.

It's just you.

here is my opinion on the matter.

I used to be a hardcore MMO player. WoW, FXI, and LOTRO were all games that I played to death, and they will forever have a place in my heart. I can't play for 5-8 hours a day anymore. While I will agree that there isn't enough to do for that amount of time at end game (assuming from what people say) at this point in time, it is OK with me. It seams that SE has made FF12 into an MMO. A game who's content is as difficult as the player allows it to be. If you are undergeard, it is hard (and vice-versa). I like this style of game but I can concede that it will get dull for people that aim to accomplish things quickly. Their needs to be more variety. While 2.1 offers some interesting things, having a 24 man dungeon in place for players that will already be geared over it, seams a bit backwards.

Here are some things that I think should be implemented aside from hat has been said in the dev notes for 2.1:

1. Notorious Monsters (FFXI style, not FATE NM's): This will make people go out and hunt down monsters in places not just to level up, but to solo, group kill, and get gear that is unique from dungeon/instance gear.

2. Ability based gear: All the gear to date just increases stats. Where is the gear that will increase X skill/ability by Y value? Why can't i get a shield that increases my shield bash stun time? Why can't a BLM get a rod that increases Ice damage by X?

3. Materia needs to have more variety: If materia had more variety, crafted gear and gear that has materia slots will be more sought after. If the materia has more variety (not just stat increases) people can be more creative with their classes. Pretty much the same principle as #2.

4. Harder solo content: this is self explanatory. The only challenging solo content is trying to kill fate bosses, which altogether sucks because people just come in and help out. There needs to be a solution here.

5. Ability to go into a dungeon with less than the required amount of people. I should be able to go into Toto-Rak at 50 with a friend and try to duo it, just because I'm up for the challenge.

6. Card mini-games: a staple (somewhat) of the FF series that IMO would fit in really well in an MMO. If I'm bored/waiting for people/etc., I should be able to play tetra master on the streets of Limsa Lominsa with someone. Bet gil, etc., and generate more interaction between players.

7. Make monsters drop gil: Allow me, if I want to, to endlessly farm mobs for gil. Bird Blood farming from FFXI anyone? yes, please.

Cant think of anymore right now as I am at work, but I think these things will make more content in game and not limit players to only a few reasons to log on.

And that is how you construct a mature post. Thanks Lord_Zlatan.

I would like it if they had other ways to obtain endgame gear. From what i see said about endgame i really don't want to deal with most of the bad people in duty finder. A good example of other ways would be like how DCUO did the solo "challenges". Where you could do some hard solo instance and get some marks (tomes), but not nearly what you'd get for running a dungeon raid with a group. They could also only be done once per day. They were great for if you didn't have time to set up a whole group but still wanted to make alittle progress before bed, or maintenance in FFXIVs case. :p

Ya the game can get boring, but its dependent on how you play and how long you play. The game is what you make of it.

I would assume that if they removed Myth cap at least, more end-game people will be more "entertained." However, this would only be a temporary entertainment till they get everything lol.

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Originally Posted by Gucci_Charms

Ya the game can get boring, but its dependent on how you play and how long you play. The game is what you make of it.

I would assume that if they removed Myth cap at least, more end-game people will be more "entertained." However, this would only be a temporary entertainment till they get everything lol.

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True, but at what point are the devs supposed to placate people that do nothing but play all day? "Keep making content" is not an appropriate answer because said people will just continually beat the content.

You can't always make those people happy is my point. A few more things need to be added though, that is for sure.

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Originally Posted by Miiu

And that is how you construct a mature post. Thanks Lord_Zlatan.

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thanks ^^ !!

The only time I get bored of any MMO is because I have noone to play with. Every MMO has it's good and bad, it's who I go through the good and bad with that makes the difference. Going through the storyline and dungeons in this game, I've met some really nice and pleasant people in game and even though some of them were for just a brief moment, they've made the game really enjoyable for me during those experiences. I've also found a solid group of friends that I play with every day so I hope they stick around because they've made me go from not want to log on at all to logging in every day.

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Originally Posted by Bizniztyme

The only time I get bored of any MMO is because I have noone to play with. Every MMO has it's good and bad, it's who I go through the good and bad with that makes the difference. Going through the storyline and dungeons in this game, I've met some really nice and pleasant people in game and even though some of them were for just a brief moment, they've made the game really enjoyable for me during those experiences. I've also found a solid group of friends that I play with every day so I hope they stick around because they've made me go from not want to log on at all to logging in every day.

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Yeah, that certainly helps.

I went through 3 FC's before I started experiencing "community" in the game. the 4th one has been awesome (shout out to HnS on Goblin!!), and it has made an already enjoyable gaming experience even better.

I find myself doing sastasha, tam tara, and copper bell, just because a new FC member needs it. Im more than happy to do 'old' content to be social and have a good relationship with the FC. Some people however find doing things like this a waste of time. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

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Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan

Yeah, that certainly helps.

I went through 3 FC's before I started experiencing "community" in the game. the 4th one has been awesome (shout out to HnS on Goblin!!), and it has made an already enjoyable gaming experience even better.

I find myself doing sastasha, tam tara, and copper bell, just because a new FC member needs it. Im more than happy to do 'old' content to be social and have a good relationship with the FC. Some people however find doing things like this a waste of time. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

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I feel ya man, I'm glad there are players like you out there that makes others experiences so much better. I feel the comradery in MMORPG's seems to be extinct and I commend players like you. These days, most people if they don't get anything out of it, you're SOL for help.

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Originally Posted by Bizniztyme

I feel ya man, I'm glad there are players like you out there that makes others experiences so much better. I feel the comradery in MMORPG's seems to be extinct and I commend players like you. These days, most people if they don't get anything out of it, you're SOL for help.

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It also helps if you think outside the box.

Going into Halatali in your AF and mass pulling 8-9 mobs at a time can be ridiculously fun, especially if you do it with people you have been having a great time with.

Im at work and can't really chat right now, but i hope you enjoy Ultros Biz, maybe ill see ya in the DF ^^

It could be just you because there is so much to do in this game I dont get why people get bored...but to each his own.

I play this with friends and got my relic last night, been playing for just under 3 weeks. The game is great when you know people.

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Originally Posted by ShadowHunterrX

Let`s see what have you done in 2-3 months...... 1 Lv 50 and a few -30lv oooo , you have still plenty of content to do :D. Old or new , does it matter ?

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I can't imagine many people really enjoy FATE grinding another job to then go through the whole grind again at the end. I don't get it.

Running the same content over again - except this time with much less to do with no story or side quests - is not additional content.

We need those casual raids and PvP.

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Originally Posted by Dliver

I can't imagine many people really enjoy FATE grinding another job to then go through the whole grind again at the end. I don't get it.

Running the same content over again - except this time with much less to do with no story or side quests - is not additional content.

We need those casual raids and PvP.

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Yes - for the love of love give me PvP :D

I've never played an mmo without PvP and really starting to get the itch. Trying not to go back to GW2 because I hate hopping but it's itchy..

This is why I have an long list of games in my Steam library to play at times when logging into FF14 isn't at the top of my list.

I found my greatest interest in the game was through crafting at the exclusion of everything else. I hit 50 in BLM, went to level Weaving and never looked back. I do the story quests only when my friends are on who are currently progressing through it.

Look I played WoW hardcore for years. I grew up and now I have a life outside of my pc. Did you consiter that ff14 was aiming for the crowd of people who dont spend 40+hours a week online?
I wasnt aware this game was 3 years old. Are we counting beta/alpha time as well? Look if you dont want to sub that's fine but dont sit here and cry on the forums go play another game. Or get a job. Or both!
Yes ff14 has room to grow, in fact it has a lot of room to grow, how about instead of writing a game off as a failure why dont you be pro active, petition for changes. WoW wasnt as well known and super popular till like WoLK expac as far as I know. Most people I know who played wow in it's beginning were high schoolers, now we're finishing college and starting families. In short, I have to go to work.

I can't wait for pvp and housing :)

I struggled so hard healing in dungeons that i gave up on combat classes and just gathered to make myself some gil. After about a week of this i got tired of it and left to play wow again. Im having a blast leveling my mage up haha. But yes the graaphics and being able to level all classes on a single character were very big interest points for me as well. I tried sticking with it. but just couldnt do it.

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Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan

It also helps if you think outside the box.

Going into Halatali in your AF and mass pulling 8-9 mobs at a time can be ridiculously fun, especially if you do it with people you have been having a great time with.

Im at work and can't really chat right now, but i hope you enjoy Ultros Biz, maybe ill see ya in the DF ^^

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That would be fun once or twice. The world is too small, dungeons are like mini games, combat is just spam. Bring back auto attack, and old school macros/abilities. Kick all these people from WoW out of here that requested this game be like the game they wanted, which was WoW.

I like it...

Started to officially get bored after I got my relic, but lately I've been more bored than ever.
Though, I think the lack of people to play/chat with contributes to that more so than anything else. At least, for me.
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Originally Posted by Thorauku

Every MMO that is on it's early content is boring. So suck it up.

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Your quite wrong
Tera was released , end game not boring , Wow Released end game not boring , GW2 end game was hard as hell but not boring just over challenging.
FFXIV end game isnt even there. Like cmon you want me to spam AK/WP nono stop.. REALLY.
Oh and Coil only once clear a week ... HMMM..
I mean its bad enough that the game has over half its player base leave already but 2.1 isnt even bringing anything new thats worth doing.
The drops from crystal palace are going to be worse then Coil so people are going to clear it once then never go back cause AK/WP are still more benefitial . SE have no idea whats going on.
Believe me Free to Play isnt far off

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Originally Posted by Farkle

I like it...

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I like it he says . Im glad you enjoy a game that punishes you for lvling an ALT. With nothing but fate grind.
Oh you have found a bug to get to max level faster. Lets Nerf that into the ground ( Dark Devices )
I enjoy only requiring to login for 2 days a week . 1 day WK/AK . 2nd day Coil..
Um no.
This game is terrible. OP is right

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Originally Posted by Keyblade

Your quite wrong
Tera was released , end game not boring , Wow Released end game not boring , GW2 end game was hard as hell but not boring just over challenging.
FFXIV end game isnt even there. Like cmon you want me to spam AK/WP nono stop.. REALLY.
Oh and Coil only once clear a week ... HMMM..
I mean its bad enough that the game has over half its player base leave already but 2.1 isnt even bringing anything new thats worth doing.
The drops from crystal palace are going to be worse then Coil so people are going to clear it once then never go back cause AK/WP are still more benefitial . SE have no idea whats going on.
Believe me Free to Play isnt far off

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Ah, opinions, don't we love them, and also where is his wrong?

Pretty much every MMO at launch is indeed boring, to MOST people, some people go at a very slow pace to better enjoy it, but for the most part all new MMOS get boring at launch if you play them long enough, you can't sit here and tell someone "You're wrong" just because you don't agree with them.

Almost every mmo that releases nowadays (well for over 10 years now..) has boring endgame. It usually gets better, but it has to be good enough to attract the players that are leaving or already have left, which is hard. Wow is the only MMO for 10 years that had an enjoyable endgame at launch, on the other hand, it got boring after the first expansion....

I don't know why it takes so long time for developers to do dungeons.... Shouldn't really take that long, and while dungeons(including raids) shouldn't be all the endgame, it's a big part of it. Don't know what they are wasting all the years of development on.

It does depend on the players and in some cases some o not find it enjoyable until they have progressed much further
There are many repetitive (Fetch Quests) but alas all MMo's suffer from that it seems

The game may not be for you however

my only problem with this game is that it feels slow, but im not talking about the entire game such as combat or gathering, those feel justified to be slow, and people are right when they say combat gets faster as you level.

it has a lot of unnecessary item requirement bloat for most if not all crafting recipes after heavensward, and im specifically talking about items dropped from mobs, so crafting as a weaver, alchemist, or leatherworker means your going to spend a lot of time farming HQ mob item drops and its only going to get worse as you progress. of course that no longer matters to me, because i found out that crafting is optional and not a requirment, though StormBlood's HQ gear has a very large statistical difference from low quality gear as opposed to HeavensWard and definitely ARR.

there also seems to be no difference in pace inside and outside of combat, gathering, and crafting. im talking about the freedom of the open world. before level 20, you had to sprint from point A to point B with a 20 second sprint and a 10 second CD, but now we still have a 20 second sprint, but a 40 second CD, and i just feel sorry for new players. i also do not see why we cant move while "casting" a mount, and i do not see a reason why sprint is not different outside of combat (though this is confirmed to change in the future). there also seems to be a lot of mobility based abilities within each class, but they each have a very long CD for the sake of them being extremely effective within combat. the pace of the game needs to speed up outside of combat in different forms besides mounts and teleportation in order to make it a proper open world experience, then have the pace slow down to its current form within combat (increase certain ability CD and limitations during combat). basically, besides using mounts and teleportation, everything that applies within combat also applies outside of it, and that just limits what the open world could offer. all i know is that it would be awesome if i could do multiple shukuchi teleports as a traveling ninja, or if i could summon my flying mount as i am free falling.

so i just believe the game is boring because it is very, very slow paced. there's not a lot of "freedom" to give the player outside of combat.

The game has record subs and has exceeded expansion expectations from a dollar perspective. I would say that suggests that many don't agree.

You just haven't played the game while listening to the Bayonetta soundtrack.