Um, and why shouldn't they add PvP and PvE servers, and why shouldn't they add official role-play servers? If you just state 'no' without providing a reasonable basis for doing so, you can see why some of us might laugh in your face. LOL, people on this forum are hilarious.Quote:
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04-15-2011, 08:26 AMgifthorse
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04-15-2011, 08:27 AMgifthorse
I mean, the fact that you would fight against the implememtation of a PvP and RP server that would not even effect you, but only serve to add to SE's revenue is the funniest thing. From my point of view anyway.
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04-15-2011, 08:33 AMZenakuO.o dude SE said no the idea of FFXI and FFXIV is to play all together the game is base of PVE. Even if they add PVP it wont be open PK just FFXI base type system PVP so why even make a PVP Base of only that? JP themself want there own world and SE said no to them back before the game was even release in E3. So the only one really laughing and saying people on this forums are hilarious would be me would it not?Quote:
Originally Posted by gifthorse
A lot of players here have said this 100x before SE said no the JP themself ask for JP only worlds and got turn down.
@gifthorse : it would effect us all because FFXIV would never have enough players to cut them up in diff severs the players base would be low for RP and PVP
So please don't be Rude to others read the interview even Yoshio-P said no Open PK. I don't think they even thinking of doing RP,pvp,PVE worlds also. -
04-15-2011, 08:42 AMgifthorse
But they should think about it. If they aren't going to give people regional servers (for low latency) then at the very least they should let people have server-types which they want to play. Role players don't want to play with non-role players. There is no reason people who want PvP shouldn't be able to have PvP provided it doesnt impose itself on people who don't want it, and the only way that can happen is with a different server with a different rule set.
SE should try and foster different kinds of players which they are able to attract with minimal effort. The amount of revenue gained would outweight the cost, I'm sure. But obviously they don't have any business sense. -
04-15-2011, 08:43 AMchime85Excuse me, isn't that what you're doing? seeing as you have already made this exact post before, it can be percieved that you are the one who believes he dictates what should and shouldnt be ingame.Quote:
It's funny to see that you think you and you alone get to decide what a FF MMO should be.
I am not the only one to state that SE are against pvp, and not only in this thread. If you are going to throw your rattle out of the pram everytime someone has a different opinion to you, how do you suggest people take your ideas seriously? -
04-15-2011, 08:47 AMgifthorseMy other thread was removed because people took offense to it. It's not my fault I had to remake it.Quote:
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But let's put aside the fact that you aren't actually making much sense, and let me ask you: at what point have I said that FFXIV should be a specific way? To the contrary, I have only ever endorsed diversity. And diversity can only be achieved with different server types. People detest things that others woudld like. The whole auto-attack debacle is proof of that, so it's only in SE's best interest to try and keep and attract as many players as possible, rather than seeking to exlude them for what seems like no reason at all. -
04-15-2011, 08:48 AMZenakuIt's not about Business sense there trying to sell something that is not a wow clone. FF is not about PVP they would never add open PK they said this many times. Let's say they add pvp world that you could PK and stuff then how would players enjoy level up and do craft and other stuff? they have to make a new overall rule for the game that could take months to do. They just not going to waste that much time then see it fail because not a lot of players like the PVP system. Jp don't like open PK i think this was one of the business decisions they took when making FFXIV see what the JP like and add it. Each part of the world have there own way of playing MMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by gifthorse
I can understand how a PVP,RP,PVE world can help out players who want to play that type of game. But PVP wont be in the list for the matter that FFXIV wont every have open PK but if they have something like BG from wow it still be base of FFXI type pvp system just better and funner.
The big selling point for FFXIV is "We not trying to be like everyone else" PVP right now is not even on there list they did say there working on something. But we all know it the UI'dah PVP system you go in 1Vs1 2vs2 3vs3. Maybe we may even get Ship battle pvp system.
At the end FFXIV would never have enough players to have the need of making pvp,pve,RP worlds.
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04-15-2011, 08:52 AMgifthorseOh my god...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenaku
If the selling point of FFXIV is not to implement stuff that there is a market for... and a market which they could easily attract if they wanted to... in a way that wouldn't deter their current playerbase... then WOW! Theyre so smart.
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04-15-2011, 08:53 AMchime85again, you are a difficult man to get along with.Quote:
But let's put aside the fact that you aren't actually making much sense
Diversity is good, I agree. However, by having pvp (if even in a few servers) you break that diversity and segrigate the community. The implimentation of pvp alone will do this. With that in mind, SE are looking for as many players as possible. You are a pvp player in other MMO's i presume? you are playing this game also, right?Quote:
at what point have I said that FFXIV should be a specific way? To the contrary, I have only ever endorsed diversity. And diversity can only be achieved with different server types. People detest things that others woudld like. The whole auto-attack debacle is proof of that, so it's only in SE's best interest to try and keep and attract as many players as possible, rather than seeking to exlude them for what seems like no reason at all.
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04-15-2011, 08:59 AMgifthorseMight I remind you that you started it.Quote:
Originally Posted by chime85
I am not talking about diversity within servers, but a diversity of players upon whom SE can gain subscriptions from.Quote:
Diversity is good, I agree. However, by having pvp (if even in a few servers) you break that diversity and segrigate the community.
PvP will not deter people if it does not effect them, and it will only attract people who want it.Quote:
The implimentation of pvp alone will do this. With that in mind, SE are looking for as many players as possible.
There is a need for a whole host of things in this MMO, and many of which cannot be implemented for fear of upsetting its current userbase, which is perhaps all the more reason to create different servers for the players SE wants to attract without effecting the players they are too loyal to lose.Quote:
You are a pvp player in other MMO's i presume? you are playing this game also, right? I personally enjoy some pvp. However, there is no need for it in this particular MMO.