Better Quality ( but not as long) Gameplay

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Originally Posted by Risae

And it looks like they copied the World of Warcraft battle system 1:1.

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Good. This game will be better for it. :)

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Originally Posted by Doho

ULTIMATE FACEPALM/HEAD DESK


You know what... I think.. I think I know what's going on here. When people say stuff "copies World of Warcraft". The franchise reaches a point in popularity where a good chunk of the community thinks of it as THE standard.

Say for example if I were to release a fighting game, with projectiles, combo system, ultra combos and all the bells and whistles, with a colorful character roster. People would say, Oh, that's just a copy of Street Fighter.

But anyone that has played say... Skull Girls, Blazblue, Guilty Gear.. basically ANY 2D FIGHTER EVER, would know these are NOT copies of Street Fighter. And most people don't even say that anyway.

So why is it that every game that uses standard MMO features, that weren't even invented by WoW, compares an mmo to WoW? It's mind boggling really. I'm not bashing anyone in particular, I'm just trying to talk myself through/understand this phenomenon.

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I don't think you know what i was talking about. I played World of Warcraft for about 4 years with a few breaks in it. 2.0 is going to use the exact same battle mechanics/player movement like World of Warcraft.

Btw, i was using WoW as an example because everybody knows it and played it at least once.

Let's face it, Limit Breaks will have little role in the game. Its probably mostly a novelty and no one will do it after long (ala Magic Bursting in FFXI). To me it seems like most of the content will be geared to solo until endgame and then gear treadmill like every other WoW clone. "Oh you can do group quests if you want" No one will because its 'easier' to just do the solo quests. I am genuinely worried about that. I want to know what will make this game different (other than FF themed world)? What will be FFXIV niche relative to SWTOR, Rift, WoW, FFXI, etc, etc? Why will people want to play it? Ask yourselfs that.

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

Let's face it, Limit Breaks will have little role in the game. Its probably mostly a novelty and no one will do it after long (ala Magic Bursting in FFXI). To me it seems like most of the content will be geared to solo until endgame and then gear treadmill like every other WoW clone. "Oh you can do group quests if you want" No one will because its 'easier' to just do the solo quests. I am genuinely worried about that. I want to know what will make this game different (other than FF themed world)? What will be FFXIV niche relative to SWTOR, Rift, WoW, FFXI, etc, etc? Why will people want to play it? Ask yourselfs that.

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There will be a balance between Party and solo quest, it won't be just solo you way to victory. It was said in one of the interviews.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

There will be a balance between Party and solo quest, it won't be just solo you way to victory. It was said in one of the interviews.

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I hope. FF MMO RPGs were my safe haven of true MMO gameplay. If they take that away from FFXIV I will crushed. I would trade 2.0 with all its bells and whistles for 1.0 if so.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

There will be a balance between Party and solo quest, it won't be just solo you way to victory. It was said in one of the interviews.

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We need to see this balance -- if they're focusing on making this a "stand-in" MMORPG, the balance by default will tip heavily into the solo range rather than party route.

Very short gameplay video but at this point I'll take anything from 2.0. :P Thanks for the link.

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Originally Posted by Risae

I don't think you know what i was talking about. I played World of Warcraft for about 4 years with a few breaks in it. 2.0 is going to use the exact same battle mechanics/player movement like World of Warcraft.

Btw, i was using WoW as an example because everybody knows it and played it at least once.

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NO. I don't think you know what I'm talking about. (Also, I'm not angry at you or anything just the whole crux of this thing)

COMMUNITY. A few questions.

1) What is a WoW clone? Please explain.
2) Would you consider Sonic the Hedgehog to be a Super Mario Brothers clone/copy?
3) Would you consider Lumines to be a Tetris clone/copy?
4) What specifically differentiates games within the same genre?

New quest UI:
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/img/...eb_10.jpg.html

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Originally Posted by Gokulo

New quest UI:
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/img/...eb_10.jpg.html

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Hm, as expected.