Chaotic Alliance party finder toxicity

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

Your prog point is not the furthest point that you've seen in a fight. Your prog point is the furthest point that you can get to reliably without making any major mistakes.

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More people need to understand this.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

That's not mistakes, those are dps stats I'm just a trash gnb player. This is the case everywhere I play it. I is not my main class and i only play it to get easier ques
Dps =/= mecanic execution

Again I firmly disagree here that low dps is griefing because I have never not cleared from dps

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You LITERALLY triple and quadripleweave in No Mercy window as GNB, so your LionHeart always out of buff. It's a griefing for all DPS player and their shoulders to carry you.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

730 level is completely ridiculous when it's not even healer bis it just seams like a completely desperate way if gatekeeping a fight and while it's ur perogative it's not going to prevent ppl from getting wiped so it's not even productive.

As for " light chaotic community know who you are" this is The exact kind of toxicity I'm talking about. Yes I dm-d people with blatantly ridiculous pf restriction like 10+ clear on fflogs when ps5 users can't even log. This fight doesn't need to be turned into ultimate entry level. If I get a rep for trying to combat pf insanity then so be it there is simply no need for this crazy toxicity

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U are kidding right? I am a healer main and I am 730... We had 5 other healers who passed the gate with no issue. The group was not a "kill group" it was a "FARM group". People who have done this content should have 730 BiS with whatever their prev. BiS was... Start thinking about your arguments and maybe do some research before, because what u said IS NOT TRUE!

Also again - U DON'T LIKE IT? DON'T JOIN AND STOP WHISPERING PEOPLE NONSENSE. Obviously people like you are the reason why other people started the gate keeping... Me and Scout did multiple groups without specified ilvl and it was rly bad... The farm groups turned into tower progs and once a tank joined and didn't even know phase one. After preset ilvl 730 and the post we will start kicking people who repeatedly fail we managed to get a group that was actual farm and had no issues killing the boss. People died there, yes, but it was recoverable and the mistakes were not always the same...

U need to learn "live and let live" bro. U have no rights to dictate people how they should make their PF and what people they should play with. So if you want people to be non-toxic, you should start with yourself, you are the lord of toxicity with so many posts on forum how you hate Chaotic, and with all the whispers. Put the effort you gave in these threads and whispers in learning the fight properly instead, u will see there will be no gate for you if you do so ^^

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Originally Posted by Combat_Unit

U are kidding right? I am a healer main and I am 730... We had 5 other healers who passed the gate with no issue. The group was not a "kill group" it was a "FARM group". People who have done this content should have 730 BiS with whatever their prev. BiS was... Start thinking about your arguments and maybe do some research before, because what u said IS NOT TRUE!

Also again - U DON'T LIKE IT? DON'T JOIN AND STOP WHISPERING PEOPLE NONSENSE. Obviously people like you are the reason why other people started the gate keeping... Me and Scout did multiple groups without specified ilvl and it was rly bad... The farm groups turned into tower progs and once a tank joined and didn't even know phase one. After preset ilvl 730 and the post we will start kicking people who repeatedly fail we managed to get a group that was actual farm and had no issues killing the boss. People died there, yes, but it was recoverable and the mistakes were not always the same...

U need to learn "live and let live" bro. U have no rights to dictate people how they should make their PF and what people they should play with. So if you want people to be non-toxic, you should start with yourself, you are the lord of toxicity with so many posts on forum how you hate Chaotic, and with all the whispers. Put the effort you gave in these threads and whispers in learning the fight properly instead, u will see there will be no gate for you if you do so ^^

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It is rated to 710, so please stop, if you claim you need BiS and whatever, then it is a serious joke, it say you can enter at that, that means you can complete it as well as that... unless you need the crutch?

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Originally Posted by ExiaKuromonji

No it wasn't. It was advertised as savage difficulty.

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when they first announced it. it was refer as content more aimed toward casual/midcore to transition them to harder content but they did a tweak in damage turning it into a savage between M1S and M2S. I aren't complaining I did have my fun on day one but it was only because I was on vacation I could try it.


Most midcore player have been ignored since Endwalker you also have to understand that last content we got was bozja.zadnor and eureka.

Extreme have to be somewhat more interesting I don't say they are impossible at all but once a guide is required you can no longer count it as midcore content. I do get why guide are needed in farm party because wiping would be hella annoying.

and to everyone else yes they don't pay your sub and everything but try to be understanding of others we all play a multiplayer games after all.


I don't blame anyone for wanting something over others and that is thing casual/midcore have to understand and not everyone enjoy watching a guide taking the game as a second job that's the thing raiders also have to understand.

Tho on ultimate omg I watch those fight and 100% understand the need of it holy cow this is a nightmare haha.

also don't forget guys some are out of the comfort zone they made to be able to be better as much as anyone think once someone goes out of the comfort zone you should encourage them and not downgrade them. We all are human! be the best version you can be!

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

It is rated to 710, so please stop, if you claim you need BiS and whatever, then it is a serious joke, it say you can enter at that, that means you can complete it as well as that... unless you need the crutch?

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I never said u need BiS there, Im replying to the incorrect info, that healer can't reach 730. These 730 parties do 730 as requirement, cuz it means that people completed savages, so they are probably relatively good on their class and can learn mechanics. It is completely up to the PF maker what kind of players they want to play with and there is nothing wrong about it. If u seen my previous post, u know I already said that I joined and made parties with and without ilvl requirement. When I am in the mood that I want to teach people I also join practice groups, so what exactly is the problem? U cant play with type of people u want to play with or what? How is parties with specified ilvl problem? Nobody force anyone to join these groups, there are million groups that do not require any specific ilvl.

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Originally Posted by HavokNim

I'm the person that kicked you out. I told you its nothing personal.
There's nothing toxic about it. I set up PF post what I was looking for and what everyone else can expect from it.

Why I do this? Because people with 10 clears are more likely to be more consistent and have some good understanding of the mechanics and are less likely to fuck up and wipe the party causing everyone to lose 10 minutes. I want MY parties to go more smoothly and this method works better than just letting everyone in. If you want to let everyone IN or help other players get the clear make your own party with your own rules.

Want to blame someone blame Square Enix for making casual content braindead easy to the point the average player can't even do simple spreads, stacks and towers that are required in this new content. It's unfortunate that we have to resort to this sort of "walling" but if the average player got challenged more often this wouldn't be an issue.

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You seem to forget it is us casual players that built this game to success. And just as we made it successful, we can destroy it in one fell swoop. Let's see how much you hardcore players love your precious game when all of us who have played over a decade up and leave. If the game continues to cater to you 1% it won't last until 10.0. And I am going to be laughing in the wings as your game is dismantled piece by piece.

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Originally Posted by Ashpd

You LITERALLY triple and quadripleweave in No Mercy window as GNB, so your LionHeart always out of buff. It's a griefing for all DPS player and their shoulders to carry you.

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gona be real if it really isnt okay to do 15k dps as a tank then the devs really need to a stance on this and just outright say that not doing xxx amount of dps is actually griefing. because rn it seams to be a community vs the devs and nobody wins in this

and then u have the other problem of - if a support not being higher in dps is griefing other players then shouldn't this apply to healers too? yet i constantly see healers attacked for parsing and not helping there cohealer.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

gona be real if it really isnt okay to do 15k dps as a tank then the devs really need to a stance on this and just outright say that not doing xxx amount of dps is actually griefing. because rn it seams to be a community vs the devs and nobody wins in this

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Every single skill lists the amount of potency damage the skill does. The rotation that does more potency damage, is the one that will more hp damage to the boss given the same gear / circumstances.

Why should the devs say anything about it? The math is right there, just read the tooltips. Why would you think it's okay willfully deal less damage in the first place? This isn't a "dev vs player" situation, it's a "player vs basic decency" situation.

Tho I also hate when ppl make rules to lock you out of pfs, as the other said it is their pf listing and they are free to do it. I always hate when I see lootmaster mount farming pfs or EX pfs that have the ilvl set to BiS when you don't even need BiS to clear the fight but they are allowed to do these dumb things just like Im allowed not to join them. I don't think its toxic, its just annoying esp if the only PF at the time up(I don't like making pfs myself bc I always feel bad being a leader of a party and not having the markers or anything. Also I hate type out where Im at prog wise XD). But yeah, it sucks but what can I do.

Also on a side note, I do think CAR has only caused more problems in the community than good. Just look at how f'ed up pf is with two or three damn strats going around. I seen ppl fight over if CODCAR or raidplanner is better lol. NA can never decide on one damn plan to follow and it's so annoying! It so bad that Mr Happy recorded a video yesterday doing his stream going over the pros and cons of both, something he never do before for any other fight lol.