DPS should be WAR > GNB > DRK > PLD

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Originally Posted by Mithron

Then remove it and make it #1 and give its else to PLD and DRK instead.

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I really can't see the WAR playerbase accepting nerfs to Nascent, BloodWhetting and Thrill.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

I really can't see the WAR playerbase accepting nerfs to Nascent, BloodWhetting and Thrill.

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I can't see the War playerbase ever accepting that they might not be the best at everything. The streamers are in charge of the game's balance now anyways.

Well as of now WAR and DRK are more or less tied in DPS with GNB leading and PLD behind everyone. Granted I think the balance will change a bit as we get more clears and burst phases are ironed out for everyone. Warrior is a bit over represented so far compared to the previous tiers at least, but otherwise I am kind of surprised that all the tanks are seeing a lot of play in the savage prog.

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Originally Posted by Amenara

Well as of now WAR and DRK are more or less tied in DPS with GNB leading and PLD behind everyone. Granted I think the balance will change a bit as we get more clears and burst phases are ironed out for everyone. Warrior is a bit over represented so far compared to the previous tiers at least, but otherwise I am kind of surprised that all the tanks are seeing a lot of play in the savage prog.

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More or less tied when one of them does more damage 95% of the time?

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Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

More or less tied when one of them does more damage 95% of the time?

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More or less tied as in they are around 1% difference right now. I think it will be hard to tell for a week or two until we can have consistent clears and burst windows ironed out to see where the balance evens out to.

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Originally Posted by Amenara

More or less tied as in they are around 1% difference right now. I think it will be hard to tell for a week or two until we can have consistent clears and burst windows ironed out to see where the balance evens out to.

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How much more proof do we need that War is just better than Dark knight in just about everything they both do? If it was just a margin of error we wouldn't be seeing Warrior ending on top in every single encounter.
What does it say about a job when you need everyone else to play around you before you can start having a *CHANCE* at outperforming Warrior in terms of damage *SLIGHTLY* if the fight ends up*RIGHT* after your burst *AND*you had good RNG?
They buffed Warrior too much and they need to start reverting buffs.

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Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

How much more proof do we need that War is just better than Dark knight in just about everything they both do? If it was just a margin of error we wouldn't be seeing Warrior ending on top in every single encounter.
What does it say about a job when you need everyone else to play around you before you can start having a *CHANCE* at outperforming Warrior in terms of damage *SLIGHTLY* if the fight ends up*RIGHT* after your burst *AND*you had good RNG?

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Well, I would like to see balance after more players have cleared savage and the focus becomes maximizing DPS instead of learning and executing mechanics. If it ends up that DRK falls behind after that, sure, but if we knee jerk now when all the tanks are very competitive with each other and we have most players still learning the mechanics it can throw balance off worse in the long run when the fights are being recleared. Like I said, I am not opposed to adjusting after we have a couple weeks of data, I just think with all 4 tanks being competitive that it isn't worth messing with yet.

If you don't do savage or ultimate, balance at the top end does not meaningfully affect you. Normal content parses are so utterly worthless that it's a wonder they're even saved. The chance of you dying to golbez's enrage is so hilariously slim that it'd be an achievement in of itself. Anything below that has even more lenient dps checks. I cannot tell if this is salt that dark knight doesn't have an effortless dps opener or just stirring the pot. Also get over yourself about the kill times, that affects literally everyone. Boss dies just before final sting registers? Tough luck, join the club.

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Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

I can't see the War playerbase ever accepting that they might not be the best at everything. The streamers are in charge of the game's balance now anyways.

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Its looking like this tier WAR is indeed the best at everything though

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Originally Posted by fulminating

If you don't do savage or ultimate, balance at the top end does not meaningfully affect you. Normal content parses are so utterly worthless that it's a wonder they're even saved. The chance of you dying to golbez's enrage is so hilariously slim that it'd be an achievement in of itself. Anything below that has even more lenient dps checks. I cannot tell if this is salt that dark knight doesn't have an effortless dps opener or just stirring the pot. Also get over yourself about the kill times, that affects literally everyone. Boss dies just before final sting registers? Tough luck, join the club.

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It's about not wanting to play worse warrior. It's better at just about everything we do now.