Samurai AoE

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Originally Posted by Leifei

Kaiten was just button bloat and the addition of the new techniques from lv 80-90 make up for it.

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Yes its not that they had the skills Hissatsu: Guren and Senei needlessly split... it's not Shoha I and Shoha II just being a combined Skill, it's obviously not that Ikishoten should just turn into Ogi Namikiri, its obviously Kaiten thats the button bloat here out of every other button we could have removed or merged. Yup.

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Originally Posted by Leifei

That's subjective. I'm enjoying the job. Kaiten was just button bloat and the addition of the new techniques from lv 80-90 make up for it.

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If you want to spam one button with no resource management go play SMN.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

If you want to spam one button with no resource management go play SMN.

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Oho, a random on the internet telling me what to go play. I'm totally going to listen....not. Keep moaning about Kaiten. It's gone bud.

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Originally Posted by CelestiCer

Yes its not that they had the skills Hissatsu: Guren and Senei needlessly split... it's not Shoha I and Shoha II just being a combined Skill, it's obviously not that Ikishoten should just turn into Ogi Namikiri, its obviously Kaiten thats the button bloat here out of every other button we could have removed or merged. Yup.

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So you disagree with me. That's fine. Different strokes for different folks. :)

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Originally Posted by Leifei

So you disagree with me. That's fine. Different strokes for different folks. :)

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https://i.ibb.co/MRDQj9J/Typing.gif Very True.
Some players also couldn't handle a singular skill they themselves mocked as Button Bloat or a button we press every time and somehow still miss-manage it. We can see how spamming a singular skill can be more appealing for some then others. There's no shame in it, mhm.

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Originally Posted by CelestiCer

https://i.ibb.co/MRDQj9J/Typing.gif Very True.
Some players also couldn't handle a singular skill they themselves mocked as Button Bloat or a button we press every time and somehow still miss-manage it. We can see how spamming a singular skill can be more appealing for some then others. There's no shame in it, mhm.

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I just found it boring. I've actually been doing worse on SAM since it's removal. Ironically I did best when SAM was worst off in 4.x.



Not saying shinten spam is better. I think SAM needs a rework personally. But I don't think kaiten is the answer.

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Originally Posted by CelestiCer

https://i.ibb.co/MRDQj9J/Typing.gif Very True.
Some players also couldn't handle a singular skill they themselves mocked as Button Bloat or a button we press every time and somehow still miss-manage it. We can see how spamming a singular skill can be more appealing for some then others. There's no shame in it, mhm.

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Who are you talking about? :)

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Originally Posted by Leifei

Who are you talking about? :)

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You, obviously.

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Originally Posted by Leifei

That's subjective. I'm enjoying the job. Kaiten was just button bloat and the addition of the new techniques from lv 80-90 make up for it.

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I think there were better ways to remove button bloat than getting rid of what little resource management there was with Samurai...

Ransu, you're still around? Why don't you kiss Celesti's toes next? :)