Patch 6.21 Notes

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Wut? at least 42 have...

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Probably the guy looked over the top 50 breakdowns :)

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Wut? at least 42 have...

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whoops my bad, I was looking at the top 50

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Wut? at least 42 have...

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but it's not on fflogs, so it must be dismissed. These people, not CBU3 know exactly how things are. To question them is folly :rolleyes: /s

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

They COULD be right, since we don't know their job makeup for the fight, nor whether they did it at minimum ilvl or not. I'd prefer if they'd test at minimum ilvl with every job makeup, but that may take too long (and require them to actually play jobs we know they don't play, like DRK or SCH).

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It's incredibly unlikely though because we've seen highly skilled players struggling with the DPS check of P8 due to the job they play. What I suspect is they test fights at max ilvl and rescale accordingly. Hence why they didn't notice how significant the job balance discrepancy was.

The Doorboss wouldn't be an issue whatsoever if nearly half the jobs weren't in a terrible state right now.

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Originally Posted by magitekLuna

Why Marauder / Warrior getting even stronger? Like even now in 6.2 each dungeon/trial is like 5bmin faster as we melting bosses. Why make it even faster. At this rate by 7.0 this be an auto play game.

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Because job balance doesn't matter in dungeons where we're hilariously overgearing them even at release? Meanwhile, in raid content, Warrior was nearly 500 DPS behind Dark Knight and Gunbreaker. Literally nothing it offers makes up for such a massive difference. No, not even Holmgang.

Check two more off on "changes that completely miss the point" bingo.

On a pure potency basis, PLD seems like it can do more than GNB over 60 seconds, at least until the second Bloodfest and every 120s after it where GNB would make up for the difference. Can't speak for crit, dh or differences in the effect of skill speed on PLD where half the rotation isn't affected by it.

Instead of buffing PLD and WAR, they should really nerf GNB and DRK. Tanks are almost doing same amount of DPS as the weakest DPS class. With 1 week of delay on savage, there is literally no DPS check at all. People already start skip mechanics and cheese the fight with healer lb3 and tank lb3 in Day 2. If that is the case, what is the point to design the fight?
Savage is not casual content. Player need to work hard, try to optimize and understand their class in order to meet DPS check. Savage now can have 3 or even 4 people die and still clear it. I do see DPS player do not pot or use crappy food and still clear the fight. Then what is the point of having new food and pot?
Majority of people are facing trapping issue in party finder not cuz of DPS check is cuz the skill level of average player base is really low, people can not do mechanics, and 3 pull disband.....
I personally feel that doing PF in this tier is a lot of harder than before, I even need to travel to aether datacenter to raid, cuz both primal and crystal datacenter are really dead, and nerfing savage (non-causal) content in 2 weeks is kind of fast

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Don't lie to me, we both know if SCH was on that team they'd already be announcing a rework to fix its issues.

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What... are you talking about? Scholar is the best healer in the game right now. It is, by all rights, better in every aspect of the game over Sage.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

On a pure potency basis, PLD seems like it can do more than GNB over 60 seconds, at least until the second Bloodfest and every 120s after it where GNB would make up for the difference. Can't speak for crit, dh or differences in the effect of skill speed on PLD where half the rotation isn't affected by it.

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Don't forget that GnB has all it's burst in the 2 minute buff windows while paladin's dps is split between their FoF and Req windows, of which only one falls into raid buffs.