1 ultimate instead of 2 ?

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

Thats the point

Its supposed to get harder, become more prestigious

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Theres nothing prestigious about increasing the fights duration, people will continue buying their clears as they do now anyway.
They COULD add some more complexity in ultimates i guess? but length? nawh.

Common sense is telling me that length doesn't not equate to difficulty, nor an attributor of it. But rather just results in it being attributed to a game of stamina more than anything else. Speaking on this though, didn't UCoB already have the feedback that it was too long an encounter?

I can't really see the appeal. Later in progression all you're doing is spending 20 minutes of your time just to see and progress the next mechanic. In a 2-3 hour raid day that's only 6-9 pulls.

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Originally Posted by Sathona

Theres nothing prestigious about increasing the fights duration, people will continue buying their clears as they do now anyway.
They COULD add some more complexity in ultimates i guess? but length? nawh.

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I assure you that the clear rate will significantly drop

less clear = more prestige

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

Thats the point

Its supposed to get harder, become more prestigious

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Making it longer doesn't makes it harder. (Don't take this out of the context)
It just makes it less accessible. Delubrum Savage is hardly accessible because people don't have that much time and can't find the required amount of players.

People already use Pandemonium Warden and Absolute Virtue as example.
I'm going to use Palace of the Dead solo as an example.

It's eight hours long of boredom, it's not hard to get the Necromancer title.
It's just that no one wants to spend 7h in there, then waste it all because of a dumb mistake, disconnection or lack of luck.
And if you make the mistake you need to redo all the previous boring hours.

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

less clear = more prestige

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no one gives a shit. UCoB has the least clears out of the three ultimates and that doesn't mean that it's the most prestigious, just means that people won't go through the trouble of clearing the fight because it's A) too long and B) the mechanics can get annoying. I can say this because UCoB is the only ultimate i have cleared, myself, and I see that you're a triple legend.

You shouldn't be doing ultimates for e-peen points or for "prestige". You should be doing ultimates to challenge yourself.

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Originally Posted by CKNovel

Making it longer doesn't makes it harder. (Don't take this out of the context)
It just makes it less accessible. Delubrum Savage is hardly accessible because people don't have that much time and can't find the required amount of players.

People already use Pandemonium Warden and Absolute Virtue as example.
I'm going to use Palace of the Dead solo as an example.

It's eight hours long of boredom, it's not hard to get the Necromancer title.
It's just that no one wants to spend 7h in there, then waste it all because of a dumb mistake, disconnection or lack of luck.
And if you make the mistake you need to redo all the previous boring hours.

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You are comparing 1-110 solo potd and ultimate fights ?

I think that 24mn-27mn is a perfect lenght for an ultimate
Not too long to avoid DC issues
Not too short, so its more difficult by the end
With enough complexity to avoid boredom during prog/reclears (at least for the first few months)

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Originally Posted by hfang

no one gives a shit. UCoB has the least clears out of the three ultimates and that doesn't mean that it's the most prestigious, just means that people won't go through the trouble of clearing the fight because it's A) too long and B) the mechanics can get annoying. I can say this because UCoB is the only ultimate i have cleared, myself, and I see that you're a triple legend.

You shouldn't be doing ultimates for e-peen points or for "prestige". You should be doing ultimates to challenge yourself.

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Do you see an ultimate title/or ultimate weapon skins ?
https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...cter/11577662/

I replied to someone saying that it will not be more difficult
And "less clear = more prestige" is a fact, not a question, even if i dont care about prestige

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

I replied to someone saying that it will not be more difficult

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Of course it will not be more difficult, it will just be more bloody boring.

It seemed like a good thread to debate, but you must be a troll, just repeating the same stuff ad nauseam.

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

Do you see an ultimate title/or ultimate weapon skins ?
https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...cter/11577662/

I replied to someone saying that it will not be more difficult
And "less clear = more prestige" is a fact, not a question, even if i dont care about prestige

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You wouldn't have made this thread if you didn't care. I personally don't use <The Legend> or the weapon either, but you don't see me telling people the fights need to be longer so less people can clear them thus making them "more prestigious"

I mean sure if they could release it along side the normal 2 ultimates why not.

Personally I might do it once/find a good group and self that shit for life, just me though.

Also OP is a triple legend fyi.