If the tied rewards are tweaked or removed, why not, I honestly think it could be useful to practice your own part of the fight at least. But much of the difficulty of the content comes from having to coordinate 8 people, the fights are designed and balanced around that, not 1 person and 7 bots.Quote:
Originally Posted by JisKing98
I'd rather see new hard content for solo or light party specifically designed and balanced for that amount of players, than changes or options to currently existing content, though.
The trust system is great, I hope it gets expanded
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03-24-2021, 09:54 AMZedxKayn
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03-24-2021, 10:06 AMRalph2449Because clearly it can’t be tuned in such a way that your individual performance is what leads to beating the encounter or not by requiring individual perfect mechanics and decent dps to beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daibunnie
Or are you saying that no matter how skilled or perfect you play individually that is irrelevant and it is a ‘cakewalk’ because something out of your control aka other people failed mechanics, in that case how can you talk about how skilled and what a great achievement YOU ve earned when you beat in the group when you yourself just said your individual performance no matter how good makes it a cakewalk? -
03-24-2021, 10:12 AMJisKing98Damn we gatekeeping now?Quote:
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03-24-2021, 10:20 AMZedxKaynDunno, who's stopping you from pugging or joining a static?Quote:
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03-24-2021, 10:33 AMDaibunnieThe content is tuned for 8 PLAYERS. This includes mechanic solving, healing/mitigation done efficiently, and everyone doing decent dps. You shouting "individual performance" or w/e you have going on in almost every thread tells me you don't understand how raid progression actually works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph2449
Not every piece of content needs to be designed for 100% of the playerbase. And yes, performance is and should remain as a gatekeeper.Quote:
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03-24-2021, 10:57 AMRalph2449A savage raid and extreme trial is nothing more than a simple challenge, it can be made harder via more mistakes from others or easier by overgearing and skipping phases, tuned for 8 people means very little when it can be 1 player and 7 npcs instead that do the minimum, especially when it can be tuned so you need higher than average personal dps to get through because all npcs would be average which actually means you are gonna do the encounter as it was meant to instead of skipping phases like groups love to do so it is actually harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daibunnie
It sounds like you don’t want to admit that people who would beat this often overhyped ‘hardcore’ content are more than capable individually and skilled enough to do it which is what matters in these form of challenges, instead you keep trying to hype up the group’ achievement’ which often overgears and skip phases when they can thus reducing the simple challenge even further.
It is almost as if you don’t want to admit this overhyped hardcore content is not as hard as you would like to believe once that is proven when those dirty casual solo players start clearing it with trusts when there’s no social barriers thus bringing your overhyped achievement to a more realistic ground level which is the source of your true fear.
If they beat it with a trust or with a group it makes little difference, if anything with a group of players it is easier due to having more control over strats by assigning specific spots rather than having to think in real time and the usual overperformers covering for any mistakes, player mechanical mistakes being the real cause of wipes most of the time which is something you can’t control.
Again you cannot say beating with an 8 player group is harder compared to beating it with 7 average npcs and one player unless you argue that individual performance doesn’t matter hence you cannot claim to have achieved anything hard either.
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03-24-2021, 11:03 AMDaibunnieThen why do you need 7 npcs to hold your hand to clear in the first place?Quote:
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03-24-2021, 11:06 AMAxxiontread carefully with him. he is a willy oneQuote:
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03-24-2021, 11:52 AMRalph2449Oh so you need 7 human players to hold your hand to clear?Quote:
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In case you haven’t realized you can easily get carried by 7 players, you won’t be getting carried by 7 npcs who do the minimum :^)
So again, the individual skill of the person doing it with npcs seems that it could be far higher than one who does it with a human group which often includes overperformers, but what’s this? That means that beating hardcore content with a group isn’t the huge achievement elitists try to hype up when those dirty casual solo players who always need their hand held beat your l33t content. -
03-24-2021, 12:19 PMDaibunnieIf 7 humans can hold your hand to clear, why do you need 7 bots to do the same thing? You scared of getting called out as a leech by those human players?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph2449