Prepulling mobs as healer

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Kill the enemies the tank pulls. The faster they die, the faster the tank will move on to the next group.

It's helping single group tanks be efficient!

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Originally Posted by Halivel

Ah. Right. Effiency. Effiency. Effiency. EFFIENCY. Every second is a cent, right.

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Don't lie, we've all run each individual dungeon in the entire game 1000 times already, no one wants to take their time in these when dungeons are largely a grind. You run it first time, It's a cool experience, just about every other reason you'd ever come back after that means you're grinding something which yes includes roulettes

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Originally Posted by Halivel

Ah. Right. Effiency. Effiency. Effiency. EFFIENCY. Every second is a cent, right.

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As healer, it's not always efficiency that is your biggest concern, but rather boredom. It already tends to get kind of boring to be spamming 1 dps all the time and getting everything done without GCD's (most content nowadays). It's even worse when you barely even have to use oGCD's. Maybe people should keep in mind and have respect for the fact that when there's no healing needs, healers have literally nothing else to do beside spamming 1 dps button. They don't have an engaging dps rotation like tanks and dps.

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Originally Posted by Yrahv

My answer to that question was given in the second part of my post.

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You're also ignoring the other part of my post, which clarifies the question.

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Originally Posted by SamRF

As healer, it's not always efficiency that is your biggest concern, but rather boredom.

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I main a healer. I'm not going to pretend single pack pulls are interesting for me because usually they're not.

But I let the tank set the pace they're comfortable with. I sometimes tell them they can pull more if they want to. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. I don't force them to do something they may not want to do. I'd prefer to not stress out another player just to satisfy my own entertainment, because I think it's pretty selfish to do that.

When I really want to have multi-pack pulls I queue with a tank I know.

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Originally Posted by SamRF

You're also ignoring the other part of my post, which clarifies the question.

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You are ignoring a very specific part of everything. The human behind the game. Like, I hate slow dungeon runs as much as the next person, but I'm not going to be a jerk and pull mobs to the tank.

If they aren't comfortable pulling more, or aren't up to it, or whatever the reason is? That doesn't give you the right to pull ahead just because you are bored. Either go tank yourself, leave those instances, or find a friend to tank for you.

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Originally Posted by 3c-33

Don't lie, we've all run each individual dungeon in the entire game 1000 times already, no one wants to take their time in these when dungeons are largely a grind. You run it first time, It's a cool experience, just about every other reason you'd ever come back after that means you're grinding something which yes includes roulettes

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I don't argue with that actually. I go from wall to wall in 9 runs out of 10 anyway, it's not like I will purposely make run slow without a reason. It's just that the whole word "effiency" makes me instantly sick. I hear it 8 hours per day, 5 days per week at work where it pressured on you every second like a mountain. The game is the last place where I want to hear about effiency as if I'm at work again after just finishing my work. Sometimes you just want relax.

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Originally Posted by SamRF

As healer, it's not always efficiency that is your biggest concern, but rather boredom. It already tends to get kind of boring to be spamming 1 dps all the time and getting everything done without GCD's (most content nowadays). It's even worse when you barely even have to use oGCD's. Maybe people should keep in mind and have respect for the fact that when there's no healing needs, healers have literally nothing else to do beside spamming 1 dps button. They don't have an engaging dps rotation like tanks and dps.

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Yeah. Hovewer... my reaction was to a specific comment where you talk about effiency, effiency, efiency, effiency.

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Originally Posted by SamRF

Why do I need consent from the group if I'm the healer and I don't risk a wipe at all and I'm keeping everyone alive? Tank also doesn't need to ask consent to pull more, sure it's their job, but there seems to be less hard feelings when tank overpulls and causes a wipe (not completely sure about that one actually). While I'm literally not risking anything and making the dungeon progress faster. Maybe you should change your mentality towards the game if you consider that rude?

You can also say I should change my mentality for not seeing it as rude, but then I'd say consider that what I'm doing is increasing efficiency, which is the whole point of the tank/healer/dps role conventions in the first place: to do do dungeons in most efficient manner. You could for example let dps take all enmity and let tank just dps, but that's not the convention because it wouldn't be efficient.

Thus I would say there's no point in abiding by the convention in a situation when it's obviously not the most efficient path forward. And for that reason it shouldn't be seen as rude imo.

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Originally Posted by SamRF

You're also ignoring the other part of my post, which clarifies the question.

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I didn’t ignore it. Your argument is that what you are doing is merely increasing efficiency and you are asking why people are getting offended by it.

My response is that it doesn’t matter what you are doing for the sake of efficiency. Few individuals appreciate unsolicited assistance. Your intent is irrelevant. The response to your actions will most often be negative.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

I main a healer. I'm not going to pretend single pack pulls are interesting for me because usually they're not.

I'd prefer to not stress out another player just to satisfy my own entertainment, because I think it's pretty selfish to do that.

When I really want to have multi-pack pulls I queue with a tank I know.

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Like I've said. Tank doesn't need to adjust their gameplay in any way when there's no wipe risk and it wouldn't be a problem if I keep enmity as healer while I get the mobs to the tank. So isn't it more selfish of the tank then to see this act as rude? Again, they don't have to adjust their gameplay, they can act like those mobs don't exist.

Seriously though, with your reasoning, why isn't the tank considered selfish when they pull small even though they barely take damage? I don't think they're selfish in that case but they also shouldn't think I'm selfish when I'm prepulling mobs without risking anything at all.

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Originally Posted by SamRF

Seriously though, with your reasoning, why isn't the tank considered selfish when they pull small even though they barely take damage?

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Because it's their job. They Q'd up to be the one who chooses how many to pull. You Q'd up so they don't die from the amount they pull. You didn't Q up to decide how many they should tank.