Living Dead & Superbolide ideas

For Superboilde: After the invulnerability, gain a shield equal to the amount of health consumed from activation for 6s.

This would definitely help for the Benediction/Superboilde interaction. This would also give it more flavor than just an invulnerability.

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Originally Posted by Kirisu

I don't really see how DRK is punished for using their invuln, sure Walking Dead will kill you if it isn't cleansed but thats what the healer is for. They are rewarded ten more seconds to live, ten seconds wherein they can soak any damage and not die, ten seconds for the healer to recover. Its essentially a get-out-of-jail-free-card.

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It is not a reward it’s ability which grants invulnerability, and there are 4 jobs with the same ability, only 2 are punished for using it and 2 are not. If all four abilities produced a similar draw back I would agree with you, but in its present application DRK and GNB are left with inferior abilities. They are not useless by any means and when examined independently they might even be balanced but the issue is the disparity. Saying HG is broken and never bothering to fix is ridiculous but if that is the approach surely the other classes should get an equally broken ability.

To clarify, Holmgang and LD only ever mitigate damage if you're at 1 HP. SB and Hallowed mitigate damage from the moment that you activate them.

SB gives you a minute shorter recast over Hallowed. In exchange for this, you give up 2 seconds on duration and having a HP cost attached to activate the action.

LD potentially gives you up to four seconds extra duration over Holmgang, the full duration of which is only possible by burning Benediction. It can just as easily have a shorter duration than Holmgang, if your healer cleanses the effect earlier. In exchange for this questionable advantage, you have a minute longer recast (51 seconds in practice if you precisely time your LD activation), and your healers have to either burn cooldowns or race to heal 120k+ HP on you in 9 seconds (you die on 10) without having any feedback whatsoever on the amount of healing still needed. It's a pretty bad trade-off.

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Originally Posted by VenKitsune

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It is worth noting that with this expansion, Holmgang has changed, Convalescence is gone (from DRK, at least), and a lot of us are sitting in the 120k HP range during trials at the moment.

I think that even if the devs were to insist that the two abilities are a fair trade-off (they're not), you can at least make the case for fixing the English tooltips (which are poorly worded) and at least give your healer some UI feedback on how much remaining healing is required to cleanse the effect.

In the long term, I hope that we'll flat out see a removal of these abilities, but I don't think that's going to happen until we get another tank.

Living dead should be made into a self rez ability. Ive been saying it for years now and feel like it fits in with the lore of Dark.

"Reduces 50% of all damage taken. If HP falls below 1 while living dead is active, you resurrect with 50% HP and MP."

I think thats fair because there is still a penalty and possibilty of death. Also way more usable than the current skill. Still less broken than hollowed ground.

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Originally Posted by Cosaint

Living Dead: Remove 100% HP healing requirement.
Superbolide: Apply Invulnerability before losing HP.

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I think SE can do better with all the invulnerability abilities

Hallowed Ground: Same effect as before, but you will now counter-attack every time your hit. 65 potency
SuperBolide: Instantly restore HP to 100% and reduce damage by 50% instead of invul. Duration 12secs.
Holmgang (Change Name to Bloodthristy): Lock down the target. Taking Damage Now heals you. Over heals grant a shield equaling 30% max of your a hp. Duration 6 sec
Living Dead: Prevents you from dying for 6, increase healing received by 25%. Enemies that hit you will suffer the plague. Plague = 100 potency DOT for 30 Secs.

For their long Cool Downs, all of them should be better than. As they are now, Good tanks and healers dont find much use for them outside of cheesing mechanics and SuperBodlide/Living Dead are a Masochist Dream.