Gath wonders....

Gath you make a good point. So far I haven't come across challenging stuff...just tedious. :( i hope they add challenging hnm, dungeons and other stuff.

Agree, If every fight was guaranteed to drop a IFrit Totem or Kupo Nut it wouldn't be so bad.

If fact I would scrap the whole idea of weapons dropping and just have bosses drop tokens which you can trade to an NPC for the loot of your choice.

For someone who has "Supposedly" played a lot of MMO's Yoshi-p really doesn't have a clue.

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

Dear world,

I suck at playing mage and it is SE's fault.

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I don't mind being terrible at mage, cause mages are a terrible class. Wizard on the other hand. I could prove you wrong anywhere else, but the moogle fight.

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

Gath you make a good point. So far I haven't come across challenging stuff...just tedious. :( i hope they add challenging hnm, dungeons and other stuff.

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It's the challenge that makes a game fun to play.

Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

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Originally Posted by Gath

Well, Gath has been thinking about SE's vision on difficulty.

Gath wonders if SE thinks that tedious and difficult walk hand in hand.

Gath says this because Yoshi said that both the Moogle and Ifrit were going to be difficult as well as obtaining the weapons.

Gath knows that Ifrit and Moogle, both, are not hard at all, they are just tedious to kill over and over for their weapons.

Gath knows that they plan to better the drop rates which takes some of the tedium away, but, that is not where Gath is getting at.

Gath just wants to know, Where does SE draw the line between tedious and difficult?

Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

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You act like there was no learning curve to those fights. I'm glad you got win on your first tries cus your so leet gath! J/k

They were easy after you spammed them nonstop. You think anything is going to maintain difficulty after you 20th time doing it?

Yeah, it took you a day or two to get a win just like most people. So how about you propose some ideas on how to make these fights more difficult so SE know what you want instead of just giving the mob more HP?

I wouldn't mind increased situational abilities. I.E. GLA pop shield bash at just the right time to stop party devastating move... If no gla in party LNC will need to leg sweep. You get the idea.

Primals were challenging when they first came out, anyone saying otherwise needs a smack.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Primals were challenging when they first came out, anyone saying otherwise needs a smack.

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Challenging for about 4 hours.

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Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat

Challenging for about 4 hours.

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I thought Ifrit took days to beat ?

Of course if there was no animation lock and sever lag it would have been 4 hours.

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Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat

Challenging for about 4 hours.

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If it took you 4 hours to figure out a fight in any other FF would you not consider that difficult?

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Originally Posted by Jinko

I thought Ifrit took days to beat ?

Of course if there was no animation lock and sever lag it would have been 4 hours.

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Yeah animation lock was what made that fight hard, but I was talking about Moogle. Ifrit was about... 5 or so days, to my recollection? Maybe I'm a masochist but that's still easy :I

Well, like Gath said, it isn't even about the time it takes to beat something, but both of those fights are just inherently easy.

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Originally Posted by Destain

If it took you 4 hours to figure out a fight in any other FF would you not consider that difficult?

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Depends on why it was difficult, also, I wouldn't necessarily compare single player RPG combat to MMO combat ;/