Letter to MR Yoshi: Why parses system is destroying the ffxiv world.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Parsers don't bother me, but FFLogs does.

I should not be forced to keep my raid performance on a permanent record that's publicly available when I'm content with just getting my weekly clears (For the record, I do care about performing well and improving, but I'm not the sort who repeatedly re-runs a raid strictly to get a good parse).

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I'm pretty sure if you make an account you can make your character's profile private, at least.

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Originally Posted by Ultima

Do you have a single shred of evidence to back up your claim or are you just spouting nonsense because nobody will fact check? I want you to look up what "Shirk" is, what "Shadewalker" is, what "Lucid Dreaming" is, what "Diversion" is, and what "Tactician" and "Refresh" are before you come spouting ignorance. Instead of dragging people through the mud and calling them selfish and only caring for themselves, I bet you're the problem because if something smells maybe you should check your shoes first.

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OMG you are apparently so full of yourself that don’t realise you are taking to a expert players. I know all you say it dear and I can play well with almost all classes probably better than you :p

FFXIV with regards to parsing has created a stupid environment in some aspects but it doesn't affect the general playerbase as much as you think it does. Using role skills doesn't cost a GCD because they're off the GCD, so it inherently has nothing to do with "greeding" it's purely someone who lacks awareness or doesn't know what they're doing

I think one of the worst issues that 'parses systems' have created is that honest mistakes no longer exist. You can't blank out on a mechanic and mess up, you must have messed up because you were playing greedy and people seem to have a really misguided belief that performing mechanics and doing optimal DPS are mutually exclusive -- and you have to sacrifice consistency at one for consistency at the other, which is far from true (although maybe 25% correct with regards to executing mechanics). That's what progression exists for, you play safe and by the time you're close to clearing a fight you should be 80% of the way there with knowing your limits and knowing where to push for more damage and where not to. There's nothing more tilting than being told to stop "greeding" when you lag and die or simply forget what to do.

IMO your complaints are misguided and half-correct at best and you're drawing a connection where one isn't present.

But why are we strictly placing blame on a tool just because you've run across a few bad apples that use it when the majority of us who do don't do that...? Where's the fairness in that? Maybe I like seeing actual, accurate, and concrete results of how well I'm doing in Savage, 24-man raids, or EX trials, lol.

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Originally Posted by JohnSeal

Hi, my point is that MOST of players are selfish and care only about their own personal results. As I said nobody use enmity decreaser or little useful skills/role

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That’s not a side-effect of parsers, since none of those skill decrease personal DPS, and people who regularly parse know that. As I said before, what you’re describing is simply players being bad and/or lazy. More often than not, those players aren’t the ones actually parsing.

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Originally Posted by JohnSeal

Omg that’s not the problem dear, It’s the ideology behind parses that is bad . Btw I don’t have any problem cos I am a fantastic healer :p

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Originally Posted by JohnSeal

OMG you are apparently so full of yourself that don’t realise you are taking to a expert players. I know all you say it dear and I can play well with almost all classes probably better than you :p

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Ugh, nevermind. Should have known this was a troll thread...

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Originally Posted by JohnSeal

OMG you are apparently so full of yourself that don’t realise you are taking to a expert players. I know all you say it dear and I can play well with almost all classes probably better than you :p

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I would absolutely love to see you prove that.

I've got data and statistics to back up my performance on various jobs in the game. Do you?

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Originally Posted by JohnSeal

OMG you are apparently so full of yourself that don’t realise you are taking to a expert players. I know all you say it dear and I can play well with almost all classes probably better than you :p

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Being snippy and somewhat arrogant about your skills after you JUST tried to say that parsers are toxic and the people who mostly use them are selfish isn't gonna win you any favors across the forum community. Just saying.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Parsers don't bother me, but FFLogs does.

I should not be forced to keep my raid performance on a permanent record that's publicly available when I'm content with just getting my weekly clears (For the record, I do care about performing well and improving, but I'm not the sort who repeatedly re-runs a raid strictly to get a good parse).

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You're not. There's an option to hide your logs on FFlogs.

You literally have the fflogs key on your lodestone character profile - you signed up to the site?

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Ugh, nevermind. Should have known this was a troll thread...

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Alright. To be fair, I got gotten super hard too. It wasn't until I posted the 2nd time that I actually looked back and saw the "a expert players" part of that comment.

Everybody out of the pool.

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Originally Posted by Rockette

You're not. There's an option to hide your logs on FFlogs.

You literally have the fflogs key on your lodestone character profile - you signed up to the site?

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Even if you haven't actually signed up on FFlogs, people will still judge you just from you showing up in the other people's parses. I initially became aware of it after some stupid DRK started spouting some drivel about me being "bottom percentile" on my only logged savage Exdeath kill (Where I died multiple times due to factors out of my control) and concluded I'd be dead weight at Neo Exdeath as a result (I ended up getting my clear a day or two after that,).

I signed up because I wanted to be able to hide these logs uploaded by other players, but that ended up having even more of a negative effect (While trying for a OS8 clear, multiple groups refused to queue until I showed them my parses), so there really isn't any way to escape it entirely.

Some people probably think this is really petty, but I just don't like that others are able to pre-judge someone in this manner at all, particularly when the ones who do are often too stupid to view a parse in detail to understand the factors that may have been involved in a player's "poor" performance. I can't even begin to count the number of times I was the only one who died in a OS8 clear because the healers decided I'd be fine if I wasn't topped off for a Forsaken or Light of Judgment,and I've also been killed by my melee "partner" in OS7 multiple times when they decided to disregard my Abandonment and use their gap closer (Some simple communication beforehand could've prevented this so I could've known to be ready to Shukuchi afer them).