Yoshi-p loves Skyrim and Monster hunter 3rd

You know these two examples are interesting because >my opinion< is that monster hunter is a game where you have tons of gameplay and good fights but the world feels empty and skyrim is a place where the world is full and the fights are only so so. If those two elements got pulled in oh my this game.

Also yes skyrim makes this games seem like a bug free paradise. Ive glitched the main story TWICE so far to where it locked me out (console commands saved me some- no Blades story for me though) and ive had 5 quest items stick to me and the Windhelm murder quest also lock me out. That said it still is my favorite game this year. Why? Everytime I play it I have a new adventure in a new place. No dwarf dungeon places just like the last, each little bandit cave has its own little unique thing/story/gimmick and that alone makes me go whats down this way because I'm rarely if ever disappointed.

That adventure is what I look for in a decent MMO. I see that beginning to form each update but I think to get there you need the world redesign to happen first. Otherwise your spending all this time creating places that are mostly going away.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

The bugs and weird game design in some aspects were universal though. People always say you shouldn't look past obvious flaws when it comes to certain games, yet people do that with Skyrim, the game is flawed but it has a lot of content, it definitely wasn't worth the perfect scores or GoTY it deserves, if anything Bastion was better.

Also, while Skyrim has some pretty (yet generic) envrionments and atmosphere, the character models continue to be ugly as sin as the rest of their games. Even though graphics don't make a game, they can also be a pain to look at sometimes lol, playing skyrim enough you no longer notice how badly characters are modeled and animated, and this is talking about the PC versions, unmodded.

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Exactly. And the character models are powerfully u g l y. Like.... play in first person permanently ugly. I was thinking of that while reading the other threads on this board about male character models in XIV not being masculine enough--that's such minutiae in my mind relative to the character models overall look, which is unbelievably ridiculously awesome relative to any other game I can think of currently.

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Originally Posted by Phen

You know these two examples are interesting because >my opinion< is that monster hunter is a game where you have tons of gameplay and good fights but the world feels empty and skyrim is a place where the world is full and the fights are only so so. If those two elements got pulled in oh my this game.

Also yes skyrim makes this games seem like a bug free paradise. Ive glitched the main story TWICE so far to where it locked me out (console commands saved me some- no Blades story for me though) and ive had 5 quest items stick to me and the Windhelm murder quest also lock me out. That said it still is my favorite game this year. Why? Everytime I play it I have a new adventure in a new place. No dwarf dungeon places just like the last, each little bandit cave has its own little unique thing/story/gimmick and that alone makes me go whats down this way because I'm rarely if ever disappointed.

That adventure is what I look for in a decent MMO. I see that beginning to form each update but I think to get there you need the world redesign to happen first. Otherwise your spending all this time creating places that are mostly going away.

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Skyrim's dungeons are each different in a sense, but they aren't completely different. They re-used assets like the same bridges, walls, enemies, traps, puzzles, ramps, and many other designs. This is most commonly seen in the Dwarven Ruins areas, and the caves. It's not nearly as bad as the previous ES games, but it's still quite bad. The voice acting is another factor that they re-used to death.

The lack of story, bad design decisions, poor AI, and the bugs of that game were a major downfall for me (horrendous on PS3), but I still enjoyed and platinumed the game.

FFXIV is the only game I've played where I truly still feel up to this day that it was released so heavily half-assed.

Yet I give Square Enix respect for not abandoning it. Yoshida has done a good job so far and the recomplete overhaul looks fantastic. I just pray they don't make the same mistake twice. My friend who loves Final Fantasy said he didn't like this game at all when he saw it on my PC. That he probably won't get it for PS3. Recently he asked if I was still playing it and I told him about changes and the 2.0 rehaul and PS3 release and he says he may then play it.

As for Skyrim... I really enjoy it. I love the Elder Scrolls series. Sure it does have glitches but what game doesn't? I have yet to come across bugs in Skyrim that break the game. Besides nothing is more fun than using the console to spawn a ton of bandits and a few giants and watch the people fly. XD Best bug ever and I never get tired of it.

Just enjoy the games.

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Originally Posted by Xeonerable

As for Skyrim... I really enjoy it. I love the Elder Scrolls series. Sure it does have glitches but what game doesn't? I have yet to come across bugs in Skyrim that break the game. Besides nothing is more fun than using the console to spawn a ton of bandits and a few giants and watch the people fly. XD Best bug ever and I never get tired of it.

Just enjoy the games.

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Most games don't come with low grade textures when the game is installed, frame rate slowdown after your save file gets too big, and thousands of other individual issues. Skyrim is a great game, but please stop giving them a free pass by using that "what game doesn't" garbage. Continuing to say that gives devs the message that it is ok to release games like Skyrim and FFXIV (the launch version) in their current states.

Yea Skyrim was terrible. Probably won't even get game of the year. I mean just look at those graphics. If it had FF14 graphics then okay, yea, MAYBE it would have been saved. And those freaking hilarious bugs where the most obnoxious things would happen in the most random places? Total game killer. They shouldn't let us save anytime we want if after 500 saves the load time slows down by a couple seconds. And the character models were so ugly. I couldnt fap to any of the female chars even with all clothes off. LIKE HELLO. It's 2012 people, WE CANNOT SETTLE FOR MEDIOCRE GAMES NEMOAAR!! I DONT CARE IF U HAD FUN IN SKYRIM! FUN DOESNT MATTER! DEM DEVS GOTTA GET DER AKT 2GETHUR N MAKE A REAL GAME. AMIRITE?

They should just pull Skyrim off the shelves and Betheseda should start working towards Skyrim 2.0.

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Originally Posted by SniperRifle

Yea Skyrim was terrible. Probably won't even get game of the year. I mean just look at those graphics. If it had FF14 graphics then okay, yea, MAYBE it would have been saved. And those freaking hilarious bugs where the most obnoxious things would happen in the most random places? Total game killer. They shouldn't let us save anytime we want if after 500 saves the load time slows down by a couple seconds. And the character models were so ugly. I couldnt fap to any of the female chars even with all clothes off. LIKE HELLO. It's 2012 people, WE CANNOT SETTLE FOR MEDIOCRE GAMES NEMOAAR!! I DONT CARE IF U HAD FUN IN SKYRIM! FUN DOESNT MATTER! DEM DEVS GOTTA GET DER AKT 2GETHUR N MAKE A REAL GAME. AMIRITE?

They should just pull Skyrim off the shelves and Betheseda should start working towards Skyrim 2.0. /sarcasm

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There ya go buddy. :)

I see implied sarcasm in there when he said he wasn't able to fap to the character models. XD

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And the character models were so ugly. I couldnt fap to any of the female chars even with all clothes off.

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Totally agree. Any game that you can't fap to the chicks is fail XD.

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Originally Posted by SniperRifle

Yea Skyrim was terrible. Probably won't even get game of the year. I mean just look at those graphics. If it had FF14 graphics then okay, yea, MAYBE it would have been saved. And those freaking hilarious bugs where the most obnoxious things would happen in the most random places? Total game killer. They shouldn't let us save anytime we want if after 500 saves the load time slows down by a couple seconds. And the character models were so ugly. I couldnt fap to any of the female chars even with all clothes off. LIKE HELLO. It's 2012 people, WE CANNOT SETTLE FOR MEDIOCRE GAMES NEMOAAR!! I DONT CARE IF U HAD FUN IN SKYRIM! FUN DOESNT MATTER! DEM DEVS GOTTA GET DER AKT 2GETHUR N MAKE A REAL GAME. AMIRITE?

They should just pull Skyrim off the shelves and Betheseda should start working towards Skyrim 2.0.

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Wow, it's erie how accurately you summarized this thread. There's a career in journalism waiting for you at FOX News.