1 account buying 14 houses in 1 ward.

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Originally Posted by MysteryNotes

Or they could just buy the mounts by paying for a clear.
Sure, some people get it through skill.

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Since when can you pay for a PVP mount? Again, I go by the "Unlimited supply" argument if we're talking about any other earned mount. Especially since bird farming still doesn't yield 100% mount drops like Alex does.

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But making money takes time and dedication as well. Especially considering they had to make enough money for 28 houses.
"peddling crap on a marketboard" is how people make money.

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Sure, and I do admire them for that. Up to the point they began with their snarky comments. Come on... comparing a house to a mount is ridiculous.

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And if you think its crap, try not using a market board at all in game.

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Market Boards are actually used by everybody. Again, houses are limited supply. I don't understand your last point you're trying to make.

They levelled 8 characters to lvl 50 at least, just so they could buy that many houses.
That doesn't take a day or 2, it takes a week or 2 at the very least.

Remember. The plots were empty for ages because nobody wanted them.
Or at least, nobody wanted them enough to bother buying them.

Now with the free transfers, people move over and expect them to throw away all their hard work just because "waaah i want a house!"?
If anything, people should be going after SE for making them such a limited resource.

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Originally Posted by FateAudax

You aren't telling the full story. Those 2 players who you just accused for "extreme house hoarding" has been on that server for years, way before "refugees" came flooding in due to the free server transfers.

The plots there were left empty for years, and they bought it 1 by 1 after spending thousands of hours decorating each and every one of them. They are not hoarding for the sake of hoarding. They aren't flipping those houses either.

Perhaps you should read the full context before misleading other forumers to join your pitchfork army.

Source: http://kotaku.com/two-final-fantasy-...par-1796692020

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I read the whole tumblr post, long before it was picked up by Kotaku, and no, I don't care about their shallow "reasons"

Let's stop saying people just didn't work as hard as they did, can we? PLENTY of people have the gil for a house. They worked hard, too. The onus is mostly on SE for designing such an awful system, but people selfishly hoarding houses like that, that barely get used, only makes the situation worse, just like people AFKing and refusing to log out lead to them having to do forced logouts.

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Originally Posted by MysteryNotes

They levelled 8 characters to lvl 50 at least, just so they could buy that many houses.
That doesn\'t take a day or 2, it takes a week or 2 at the very least.

Remember. The plots were empty for ages because nobody wanted them.
Or at least, nobody wanted them enough to bother buying them.

Now with the free transfers, people move over and expect them to throw away all their hard work just because "waaah i want a house!"?
If anything, people should be going after SE for making them such a limited resource.

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You don\'t need to be lvl 50. All you need is to be lvl 30, hit the grand company rank which is easy, make the fc on your main, have your alt account join it, craft to lvl it to 8 which is easy (I did it solo in 2 days) turn it over to your alt when done. It can be done in 2 days. I\'ve done it.

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They bought up the ward BEFORE the floodgates of Balmung opened up, and it doesn’t seem like they are trying to price gouge people at all, they just seem to genuinely enjoy housing and wanted to decorate houses and keep to themselves, so the fact that people are shit talking them now that SE decided to open up the floodgates I feel is super unjustified. They even said it themselves “Mateus showed no signs of getting bigger”.

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Sick of reading stupid comments like this "but they did it when the server/ward was empty". So what, Did they really think that the server was never going to fill up with people? I'm sorry but are they deluded?

If they wanted to do this properly they could've made a forum post got in multiple people who share their same idea and made it a server-wide project.

It's plain and simple greed.

Maybe Square Enix should do away with their 'good faith' system.

Remember how they were surprised people tried to sell the Eternal Bonding items over Party Finder? If there's an exploit, MMO players will do everything they can to make sure they can get the best out of it; and the only way to fix that is to patch it out. Good faith simply does not work.

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Originally Posted by MysteryNotes

They levelled 8 characters to lvl 50 at least, just so they could buy that many houses.
That doesn't take a day or 2, it takes a week or 2 at the very least.

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The basis of the argument is not how long it takes but the fact they don't need THAT many houses in the first place. Who needs 28 houses? This isn't an achievement as it is just pure greed. Did they not think this was going to happen? That their server was going to be forever and ever underpopulated? What was the outcome they were hoping for? They'd merge with another server and take their entire ward with them and it go unchecked?

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Remember. The plots were empty for ages because nobody wanted them.
Or at least, nobody wanted them enough to bother buying them.

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Again, you're beating the dead horse. Not the argument being made. We aren't discussing the past - we're discussing the now.

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Now with the free transfers, people move over and expect them to throw away all their hard work just because "waaah i want a house!"?
If anything, people should be going after SE for making them such a limited resource.

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See my first answer. It IS Square Enix's fault, but it's also their fault for thinking it'd go unchecked for so long. Are they expecting us to revere them? Hold them in a high regard? Give them a gated community for only them to enter and exit at their leisure? Pretty sure Yoshi P ain't going to tell those two to "Please look forward to it"

I've argued my points with you and yours don't make a lot of sense. I'm done entertaining you with replies.

Things could have been much more simpler had them implemented the limitation of 1 personal & 1 fc housing per server per account, yet they never do it, now it's beyond repairs. They have to design the housing system from the ground up or face the wrath of players from both the rich veteran (capitalist) camp & from the new-blood (socialist) camp.

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Originally Posted by RemTsuki

Things could have been much more simpler had them implemented the limitation of 1 personal & 1 fc housing per server per account, yet they never do it, now it's beyond repairs. They have to design the housing system from the ground up or face the wrath of players from both the rich veteran (capitalist) camp & from the new-blood (socialist) camp.

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It's getting too big now that it no longer can be ignored. Something's got to give.

As much as I hate to say it, These guys did what they could using in game systems and in game mechanics. None of us were ever guaranteed housing, or told NOT to buy houses for every alt we could make. They PAY every month to have multiple alts, they put time in for each of those houses even if it was "just a couple days" (.. 2 days of solid gametime is not a minor investment in my opinion) . I see arguments stating that NOW that the situation has changed, they should give up their investments so others can have a chance. .. Nope. This is not how the real world works. First to put in the effort gets the prize, in every single thing worth having in the world. First one to ask out the person gets the boyfriend/girlfriend/attackhelicopterfriend, first person to put down the cash gets the car, first person to get to the bigbox store on thanksgiving gets the TV for 5 bucks etc. etc.

are they nice people? ..
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