Why are we wimps?

There will be plenty more job quests to do when the cap is raised. The entire idea is to start at the bottom, and become the Paragon of *insert class* Excellence your character was destined to be. The level 36 quest is likely just the halfway point at very best.

Just be glad you didn't do the Pugilist one. First quest has you picking up change thrown on the floor from some rich asshole who owed the guild money, second involves being used as a part of some conspiracy. I assume the 36 quest resolves this, because man is it unsatisfying being an errand boy.

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Originally Posted by Irana

You know how the cutscenes make me feel?

Has any of you played white knight chronicles?

I feel like that...I feel im the random npc that joined the party and is not really important at all.

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But.. just for now... what do you want to be with almost lv 15 or so? the biggest hero the world ever saw? i mean at first we were just an unimportant "new adventurer"... later on we joined the grand companies... gaining titles and so on.

but you cant expect to be the ultra hero from lv 15 or even lv 50 on? while the npc have been heroes, when we get started into the game... we are just lv 1 unexperienced adventurers who almost know nothing about anything. (we got rescued by the Story non-playable characters)

so what do you expect to be with lv 50 which isnt the maximum level cap at all? what did you expect? they will implement more story content when the level cap is raised.. and we get more into the "final endgaming part" ... what we have for now is just only likely the beginning/the introduction or middle part of our way becoming a hero within the story.

For example when we met this "white judge" in a cutscene after the battle against ifrit, for the first time... but we cant compete against him yet and needed to escape. i think the day will come, when we're going to have a battle against those garlean "judges". after the level cap is raised.

the bosses and battles will get more epic the more we evolve in level.


what we have within the story content now is just the start

i mean remember how it was in FF11..

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Originally Posted by Nanaya

There will be plenty more job quests to do when the cap is raised. The entire idea is to start at the bottom, and become the Paragon of *insert class* Excellence your character was destined to be. The level 36 quest is likely just the halfway point at very best.

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thats EXECTLY what its about! you got it "man" (in contrast to most of the others in this thread)

Pretty much what Tonkra and Nanaya said. All great heroes start at the bottom. Right now our talents are being discovered and we are merely being awaken. I'm sure things will kick off, but I take that we have to wait through the "impending danger", 2.0 or maybe even the first expansion pack before things really start to kick off.

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Originally Posted by Nanaya

There will be plenty more job quests to do when the cap is raised. The entire idea is to start at the bottom, and become the Paragon of *insert class* Excellence your character was destined to be. The level 36 quest is likely just the halfway point at very best.

Just be glad you didn't do the Pugilist one. First quest has you picking up change thrown on the floor from some rich asshole who owed the guild money, second involves being used as a part of some conspiracy. I assume the 36 quest resolves this, because man is it unsatisfying being an errand boy.

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Ya your probably right but my complaint also encompasses the main story as well. And just cause they have us starting at the bottom doesnt mean they cant have an epic quality to it. One that makes you actually care where everything is going. Like you said i hope it is just the beginning and the rest blows me away.

Final Fantasy X for example..

its like if you were asking why you cant already compete against "Sin" in the beginning of the game?
Wouldn't be also really weird doesnt it?
all characters evolve during the story.. yuna as an unexperienced summoner or rikku as a foolish kid.

and why you get the impression nobody cares about you in personal? they ask you do complete missions for them, you receive an own companion to your side. but still, you are not that strong and experienced .

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

Final Fantasy X for example..

its like if you were asking why you cant already compete against "Sin" in the beginning of the game?
Wouldn't be also really weird doesnt it?
all characters evolve during the story.. yuna as an unexperienced summoner or rikku as a foolish kid.

and why you get the impression nobody cares about you in personal? they ask you do complete missions for them, you receive an own companion to your side. but still, you are not that strong and experienced .

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yes i understand a character must develope but here is my point, to use FFX as an example as well. Right from the start you are thrust in to this epic telling of a huge story of massive importance. Everything that is happening around you is epic and makes you feel like you are in for one hell of a ride. The quests dont give me that kind of a feeling. "Go to this tower and kill a bunch of rats!" doesnt make you actually care about the story. I guess what I'm saying is the hook needs to be stronger.

There's a pretty big discrepancy, though. Even by level 25 in FFXI we were out saving children and killing dragons. Sure, we weren't god-slaying yet, but we clearly stood out as people who would someday have the potential to. We're at Rank 36~50 and we're not even clearly BETTER THAN ANYONE yet. I'm not saying we should be out there trumping the company leaders in combat but... idk... maybe like, beating up more than a goat ... would be nice... something people will actually cheer on.

I feel like I'm still Level 10 in FFXI, out killing bats and bringing back teeth to prove I'm not TOTALLY incompetent.

Biggest thing we took on was, what, the Juggernaut? And our BIGGEST accomplishment in that entire fight was being able to outrun a missle that gave 30 seconds warning. We didn't even get to take it down. AND at least one of the three people I was there to kill escaped.

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Originally Posted by Azurus

yes i understand a character must develope but here is my point, to use FFX as an example as well. Right from the start you are thrust in to this epic telling of a huge story of massive importance. Everything that is happening around you is epic and makes you feel like you are in for one hell of a ride. The quests dont give me that kind of a feeling. "Go to this tower and kill a bunch of rats!" doesnt make you actually care about the story. I guess what I'm saying is the hook needs to be stronger.

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well an other example i do remember Final Fantasy 8 ..you cant say at first that you play an important role first as "Squall"... you are first a typical student of the balamb garden.. your first "real" mission is to do a silly "patrol" on this island. where we all and all get slowly more driven into the story.

Offline rpgs are much more story driven than MMorpgs...

MMorpgs are more drawn into the lenght than singleplayer games. because Online rpgs entertain also with group gameplay, crafting and so on. an Offline Final Fantasy keeps the gamers only playing to give one story highlight after an other.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

There's a pretty big discrepancy, though. Even by level 25 in FFXI we were out saving children and killing dragons. Sure, we weren't god-slaying yet, but we clearly stood out as people who would someday have the potential to. We're at Rank 36~50 and we're not even clearly BETTER THAN ANYONE yet. I'm not saying we should be out there trumping the company leaders in combat but... idk... maybe like, beating up more than a goat ... would be nice... something people will actually cheer on.
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ah and when do i kill dragons with lv 25 in FF11 again? ;XD

ah ok so beating ifrit, as a primal (god) is something that can do any idiot? aussum conclusion.
i know what you want to do with lv 45 saving Eorzea from the garlean empire.. and kicking with one fingersnip the lv 90 "judges" into the abyss while you are for sure only lv 50...

its that what you want? and then what do you want to do with lv 75 eh?
i dont get it.

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

ah and when do i kill dragons with lv 25 in FF11 again? ;XD

ah ok so beating ifrit, as a primal (god) is something that can do any idiot? aussum conclusion.
i know what you want to do with lv 45 saving Eorzea from the garlean empire.. and kicking with one fingersnip the lv 90 "judges" into the abyss.

its that what you want? and then what do you want to do with lv 75 eh?

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Actually you kill a dragon during your rank 3 quest which is done around 25

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Originally Posted by Azurus

Actually you kill a dragon during your rank 3 quest which is done around 25

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Correct!

And no; I don't want to save Eorzea from the Empire or beat down Van Darnus yet. I just want to fight something where the outcome of the battle makes people say something other than, "HEY, HE'S NOT DEAD!" The company quests have helped this a LITTLE. I beat up a crowd once, sealed up a hold into the void by dropkicking a demon, and beat up an already weakened Ifrit (didn't bother with Hard Mode). However, as for quests and the main storyline, our true identity, not our patriotism, has racked up the following as their highest achievements by the 33% mark:

Lancer: Stab an (1) elemental.
Gladiator: Wound (1) homeless Ala Mhiagan
Pugilist: Punch (2) mages (one with each fist?)
Archer: Make an archer who is having a bad day have a worse day after he can't even outrun you because he's surrounded.
Marauder: Not get killed.
Thaumaturge: Roast a lalafell (Okay, this one's not so bad. I guess. She had a bad attitude).
Conjurer: Drown three dogs (What is this, the NFL?)

Main Story: Not get outrun by three imperials, not get shot by juggernaut, escape with life intact.