SE Please add jump and swiming

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Originally Posted by ellohwell

Jumping adds something to the game, and so does swimming.

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No it doesn't. The game has to be designed for it to "add something to it", and just about every MMO but a few actually makes use of the mechanic other than making it animation.

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What doesn't add something to the game is the restricted rank system,

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This is an opinion.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

No it doesn't. The game has to be designed for it to "add something to it", and just about every MMO but a few actually makes use of the mechanic other than making it animation.

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At the very least it adds an animation so you aren't vertically walking up and down sheer cliff faces. (If you played the game you'd know what I'm taking about.)

It also let's you jump down from ledges (which presently create a huge annoyance despite the fact that they have tried their hardest to alleviate this issue).

It also adds the sense that you aren't unrealistically tethered to the ground like a muppet.

So even at the very least it is still adding something to the game.

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This is an opinion.

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And so is wanting the game to be a clone of FFXI. The difference is my opinion isn't stupid.

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Originally Posted by ellohwell

So is wanting the game to be a clone of FFXI. The difference is my opinion isn't stupid.

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Indeed, which no one wants a clone of XI, but it would be pretty blind to say that they shouldn't have built on the foundation of XI and took it further as they had access to better technology and more experience, XIV compared to XI was and is viewed in the light they learned "nothing" between 2 MMORPGs prior to it.

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(If you played the game you'd know what I'm taking about.)

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I do play the game actually, but thanks for trying.

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Originally Posted by ellohwell

At the very least it adds an animation so you aren't vertically walking up and down sheer cliff faces. (If you played the game you'd know what I'm taking about.)

It also let's you jump down from ledges (which presently create a huge annoyance despite the fact that they have tried their hardest to alleviate this issue).

It also adds the sense that you aren't unrealistically tethered to the ground like a muppet.

So even at the very least it is still adding something to the game.

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I can most certainly attest that she does play the game. >.>;

That and there's really no 'jumping up' the cliff or 'jumping down'. It's more like sliding up or down, or simply, just walking up and down the cliff.

I would only support jump (and swimming) if the game map were actually designed for it. Clearly FFXIV is not designed for it.

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Originally Posted by Suirieko

I can most certainly attest that she does play the game. >.>;

That and there's really no 'jumping up' the cliff or 'jumping down'. It's more like sliding up or down, or simply, just walking up and down the cliff.

I would only support jump (and swimming) if the game map were actually designed for it. Clearly FFXIV is not designed for it.

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That sliding up and down cliffs is the problem. Did you miss that the entire world is being redesigned?

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Originally Posted by Suirieko

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That and there's really no 'jumping up' the cliff or 'jumping down'. It's more like sliding up or down, or simply, just walking up and down the cliff.

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Which from what I remember, they stated was pretty much temporary regardless. There's still a ton of barriers on all axis, which means they could very much make it likely when you jump you still won't be able to jump down cliff faces, or jump over ledges.

Even in Rift the jump gets wonky at times (not as much anymore, but it still wonky in some instances.)

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Originally Posted by Tiraelina

That sliding up an down cliffs is the problem. Did the miss that the entire world is being redesigned?

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Yes. That's why I said the game isn't designed for it. Maybe FFXIV 2.0 will be designed for it. But at this point, it is clearly moot to add jump and swim, when it really serves no purpose. When it does serve a purpose, then I'll support it.

I don't mind so much about jumping but i would like to see swimming with content in the future (hidden underwater places, unique combat, underwater dungeons).

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Originally Posted by Teakwood

(Basically what I'm wondering is is there any reason people want jumping other than "other MMOs have it" and "I want to be a bunny rabbit" and "I want PvP to be irritating". Swimming, though? Dear /Twelve/, yes. That would be beyond awesome.)

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Yes there is. the reason is that invisible walls and absurd limitations are archaic and greatly holding this game back.

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Originally Posted by Azurus

Yes there is. the reason is that invisible walls and absurd limitations are archaic and greatly holding this game back.

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Jumping doesn't solve that -- Changing map geometry does.