Playing FFXIV as a Au Ra. ( playing as if I was a new player) ( A little bit annoyed)

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Originally Posted by JayCommon

I mean, don't you see that this will never end?

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Well, they have changed the way Cutscenes are delivered so I give them props for that, Having little CS like you mentioned are pointless in the grand scheme of things. I just find it sad that this what new players will have to go through when they are in it for the story. Also, not everyone is a millionaire like you are :p haha.

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Originally Posted by KaedrianLiang

Git Gud.

http://i.imgur.com/skUoogC.jpg

You are asking others to bend themselves backwards for you through the DF.

Here is a suggestion, bend yourself backwards and find like minded players wait an hour or so in the PF.

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This topic has been beaten to death already. SE made a mistake with that dungeon and didn't repeat again. Get used to it and let's move on.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

What a way to tell a new player to wait -.-. I know all these features exist, but it doesn't solve the underlining problem. /shrug

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A new player will be waiting far longer then an hour in PF.Before and after they reach lvl 50
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In this game, you wait. Everyone waits. On ques, on PFs, on spawns.


If new players cant wait one hour in PF, the rest of the game wont appeal to them

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

You can try asking but that dungeon already takes a fair amount of time which is why I stopped doing it. .

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People should heed your advice then x.x. I am also not forcing anybody, which is why I only asked once in my party they chose to ignore, so I did shruged it off, but when it came down to the back to back CS I was annoyed, but again kept my cool. I am not forcing anyone to do anything as they are paying for it too. In which case I have to ask. Why do a "Main Scenario" Roulette? I mean it's right on the tab There are countless ways to get Poetics yet some people go to the there anyways?

If it were me and I didn't want to wait for people in the CS, I would simply do something else that nets me Poetics. And a lot faster too. I don't think I ever used the Main Scenario roulette before ever lol for that reason. If your only reason to use that tab is for poetics I feel like it's a waste of time without the CS personally.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Well, they have changed the way Cutscenes are delivered so I give them props for that, Having little CS like you mentioned are pointless in the grand scheme of things. I just find it sad that this what new players will have to go through when they are in it for the story. Also, not everyone is a millionaire like you are :p haha.

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Yeah, they did change it. I guess I should have clarified I meant it will never end for these 2 particular dungeons (CM and Prae). It does suck, but I think at this point in the game the new player is going to leave either of those places with a bad taste in their mouth regardless. Is it better to be left behind so you can watch your cutscenes, or to be a part of a fight that you don't actually contribute to because everyone else outgears you so heavily?

I mean, I know this wouldn't be the case for everyone, but I pay attention to my damage contributions in a party and examine other people's gear. If I walked into a dungeon with i90 and stood next to an i200 DPS, I sure wouldn't feel like my role in the slaying of the boss was really all too important /shrug.

True about the Gil thing also. I just don't think throwing more/increased rewards at something is necessarily always the right idea. It just feels more like developer coercion lol.

CM and Prae were poorly designed. Things were even worse back in 2.0 when people were actually running CM constantly to speedrun for Philo. Though they did learn from their mistake in future dungeons, it's a shame they never went back and fixed CM/Prae since they're still needed to complete the MSQ. You can say "just use the PF!" but considering DF has worked for every piece of content before these specific dungeons, it's unlikely a new player will assume that PF is the best option. Ideally, a new player goes into CM, realizes people are speedrunning, leaves, and starts a PF... but usually this doesn't happen. It's just unfortunate that they thought a cutscene focused dungeon would mesh well with the modern MMO mentality of Gotta Go Fast.

What would you suggest they do? Force everyone to wait out the CS? No one would run them again unless they gave like half a levels worth of exp.

Serious question. I run with a 4 player static of real life friends/family. Everyone is kinda stressed out doing content with other people as we all are really not good. Like at all. We have fun though, and have conquered every dungeon this game has thrown at us so far. We are starting the first 8 player trial now, and going to the two 8 player dungeons soon. Is it really possible to 4 man this content with the i90 gear and the i115 expansion weapons on the AH? Or are we going to have problems?

The title of this thread is a bit misleading; I was expecting to see something leading to disappointment specficially because you were Au Ra when, in fact, it had to do only with the fact that you're new. You could have been any race and run into the same issue! I'm still curious whether Yugiri's dialog changes at all when you meet her as an Au Ra...

The issue you're really discussing is, as people have said, as old as release 2.0. People complained, and SE has so far shown they've learned from the mistake, but they have no intention of enforcing any kind of in-game solution. Largely because there isn't ANY kind of in-game solution that wouldn't also piss off a lot of people. We have a party finder option with a checkbox for no skipping of cutscenes, and that's pretty much the best we can expect to get. It's not ideal, but it's better than nothing.

Ultimately, it was a poorly chosen design. It's understandable that the devs didn't realize what they'd done until it was too late. It's understandable that players would prefer others to wait for them to drink in all the content since it's fresh and new for them. It's understandable that veteran players are just eager to get the thing done with since the content is old and stale for them. Force the vets to wait, and they will be less willing to help out. Lose the vets out, and the newbies are looking at ridiculously long queue times.

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Originally Posted by cyborgmermaid

Is everyone calmly ignoring the fact that all the cutscenes are actually not available in the inn?

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When people say this, most of the time they don't realize that not all the cutscenes are under the categories they expect them to be. For example, most of the Praetorium cutscenes are under the dungeon entry for the Praetorium. But stuff like your escape from the exploding dungeon are found in the Main Scenario. Figuring out where to find the cutscene you're after can be an exercise in frustration, but I'm pretty sure they're all there.

Of course, conversations you have with NPCs outside of cutscenes have no record; those are lost forever. That doesn't really apply to this discussion, however.