Will we EVER be able to glamour gear that we cannot wear???

100% in favor of this. I'd be fine with the AF gear being job-locked, but there's no reason my DRG shouldn't be able to wear the Divine Light set when she can wear a bikini, a snowman suit, or a wedding dress to fight in.

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

if you can't logicaly wear it, then you can't glamour it, it's not hard to understand, Would look pretty dumb for a whm to be walking around in full heavy armor glamoured

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And...so? It would look dumb, ok, and so why not let us look dumb? That's more choice to have and isn't that a good thing? Or would you like to see everyone wearing the same, exact glamoured outfits?
Plus, I'd love to use more dumb stuff on me if I had the chance. I would LOVE to use the 50 weaver set on another class/job or the reindeer but I can't due to this pretty weird restriction - and yes I call weird, because it only applies on very speficic pieces of armor.

PS: about the FFXI glamour being free, I think the glamour in FFXIV could've been better if we paid gil instead: would've been a great gil sink instead of...you know...spending million on houses that barely anyone can afford.

To be honest, XIV's glamour system is one of the worst for an MMO: far to restrictive for no valid reason other than to have the restriction, not to mention clunky as all hell.

I'd prefer DCU Online's system for both glamours and dyes, personally.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

show me a fireman wearing a police uniform driving a firetruck.

show me a US Marine wearing a Canadian Mountie outfit.

show me a Buckingham Palace Guard standing guard wearing nursing scrubs.

show me a Chicago Bulls player wearing a a Chicago Cubs jersey during an NBA game.

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None of these are things our characters are doing in game, and it's a horrible analogy to boot. Our character doesn't suddenly stop knowing how to WHM when they switch to BRD, and they certainly don't forget how to wear clothing.

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In none of those examples does the person not know how to wear clothing. They're all examples of how people avoid wearing outfits that would proclaim them to be something they're not.

They seem like perfect analogies to the game, providing that we're discussing the restrictions on AF gear specifically. Where the analogies fall apart, though, is when extending it to all the other gear in the game, stuff that doesn't constitute a uniform of the job, yet is limited purely for stat reasons as to which jobs can wear it.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

LOTRO originally had restrictions similar to what we have here, but after a while they dropped all those restrictions (class, level, reputation, etc) and let anyone cosmetically wear any gear they want.

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I still play that game sometimes - I love their vastly superior outfit system - wish they would make ours more like that.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Holy crap, having never played XI, I just assumed it was more of the same as FFXIV in this regard. But now that I know they had a better system in their old game than they do in their new one... wtf were you thinking, SE? XD

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The system described in FFXI was literally only added in the last year. XI, for more than a decade, did not allow glamours at all. If you looked like you were wearing level 1 gear, it's because you were wearing level 1 gear.

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

You missed the point of the post, if you can't logicaly wear it, then you can't glamour it, it's not hard to understand, Would look pretty dumb for a whm to be walking around in full heavy armor glamoured, this may be a game and "realism" does not always apply but you kind of have to draw the line SOMEWHERE.

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I can go as a PLD in my bra/panties. Yer realism is already out the window.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

In none of those examples does the person not know how to wear clothing. They're all examples of how people avoid wearing outfits that would proclaim them to be something they're not.

They seem like perfect analogies to the game, providing that we're discussing the restrictions on AF gear specifically. Where the analogies fall apart, though, is when extending it to all the other gear in the game, stuff that doesn't constitute a uniform of the job, yet is limited purely for stat reasons as to which jobs can wear it.

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It makes even less sense when you consider that a lot of gear sets are just palette-swapped versions of another set. For example, the Picaroon's sets of Maiming, Striking, and Scouting all look exactly the same save for their colors. Why should they not be able to be glamoured interchangably? Clearly all three classes can wear that particular type of gear.

I would like to see them improve the glamour system as a whole, why can't i glamour different looks to my tanks instead of them having to look the same? i feel like the glamour system was just slapped in and forgotten about because they have made zero attempts to change anything.

I wouldn't mind it too much if they loosened the glamour restrictions a bit too. Fantasy styles always change and often mages type are no longer shown in just cloth anymore. I think I've seen some even wearing bits and pieces of scalemail/plate in some art work and games.

But AFs I would like to stay job specific as those are meant to be a bit more iconic.