How can SE improve PvP?

As someone who's played PvP in almost every MMO game these are some of my opinions and suggestions:

- A proper ladder with seasonal rewards for Wolves Den. Competition is what really gives PvP longevity. Rewards can be cosmetic like titles and mounts.
- More off GCD abilities or something to make combat feel faster paced, this will create more depth for players to explore (easy to play, hard to master kind of a mentality.) More counter abilities that makes using it only at the right time would be rewarding.
- More ways to customize your PvP skills and stats rather than just the current AP system. I.E PvP rank could be a level for PvP stats like CC Reduction, healing intake increase and such. They don't have to make the biggest difference in the world, but I believe customization is what makes PvP in MMO stand out from other genres.
- Large 72 man PvP is okay if there was more reasons to be split up, currently it's way too hard for certain roles to perform. Objectives that allow more complex strategies to be rewarding could fix this, giving more use to various classes and roles.
- Been mentioned everywhere, but a dueling option. This would purely be for fun not for balance.

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- PvP Rank Grind - High ilvl stuff shouldn't be as gated (Rank 40 is a pretty crazy grind for newer players), instead award cool cosmetics at higher ranks. If this becomes a concern for PvE they could increase morale to make it a similar ilvl instead.
- More maps for everything. For Wolves Den it doesn't even need to be that different in terms of design, just different colors could make things seem less bland.
- Daily PvP Queue that awards a bonus reward similar to every other daily. After you do it once for the bonus reward you can still queue it, essentially it would just queue you for every PvP queue you're eligible for allowing the best queue times. There's one for frontlines already, but something for Wolves Den would be nice.
- A new frontline that isn't gated to the 3 factions and more variety in general. This way queing with the Duty Finder should be extremely fast.
- More into details now, but there's still a lot of room for creativity in PvP such as a long-term siege war that's not instanced but in the world and tons of other ideas that I'm sure developers can look into.

Team tournaments are not good, if i check my server than i can find only 1-3 acceptable pvp players in different GC and speak different languages and i will not pay for this expensive servertransfer to find a mate.

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Originally Posted by Vanguards

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- PvP Rank Grind - High ilvl stuff shouldn't be as gated (Rank 40 is a pretty crazy grind for newer players), instead award cool cosmetics at higher ranks. If this becomes a concern for PvE they could increase morale to make it a similar ilvl instead.

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I dont know where you see a problem in here.
i90 pvp gear = Cheap, easy to obtain, sometimes bis and without rank restrictions, so newbies can get very close to end game pvp if they want to (in terms of gear).
i100-110 = glamour wich should be gated to keep players into frontlines.

Honestly, i like the system as it is now.

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Originally Posted by Sanghelios

I dont know where you see a problem in here.
i90 pvp gear = Cheap, easy to obtain, sometimes bis and without rank restrictions, so newbies can get very close to end game pvp if they want to (in terms of gear).
i100-110 = glamour wich should be gated to keep players into frontlines.

Honestly, i like the system as it is now.

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That's a bit dependent on if Wolves Den queue ever pops again I suppose. Right now the only time I've ever gotten one to pop is the non-itemlevel restricted one. If ilvl 80 became the norm for queing then yea I agree the current system is fine.

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Originally Posted by Sanghelios

I dont know where you see a problem in here.
i90 pvp gear = Cheap, easy to obtain, sometimes bis and without rank restrictions, so newbies can get very close to end game pvp if they want to (in terms of gear).
i100-110 = glamour wich should be gated to keep players into frontlines.

Honestly, i like the system as it is now.

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I agree; if it wasn't gated like this, that would do nothing to support the longevity of PVP as so many players would just dip their toes in the content to get that cool-looking weapon or coat they want to glamour, or gear up for PVE content that their current gear can't quite cut it for (putting the burden on their PVP teams instead), and then after doing their 10-15 matches to get that item they want, never coming back. What you'd end up seeing is PVP-based rewards going to all the wrong people.

I hope the i100/110 gear stays restricted; the i90 gear will still have the morale boost even if future content is something like i100 or i110 synched. If it hadn't been gated, just imagine what Mor Dhone would have looked like when the i110 stuff came out... lots of people who are never going to queue for PVP again afk'ing in the gear we worked hard for, for doing a handful of matches where they might have barely contributed.

I know of plenty of people who showed an appreciation of & desire for some of that gear (like my Crit/Det Ninja blades)... but for most of those items I can count on one hand the number of people I've randomly happened across on my server who had those things. Some people chose to put more of their time & energy into upgrading relic weapons, some into Coil, and some into PVP... they got what they were after, and so did I. I don't expect to buy FCOB gear with Poetics the day Alexander is released or have Rowena give me Zeta weapons to glamour over my Ironworks Poetic Princess weapons, so I don't think the reverse should be enabled either.

Just today, someone in my FC ran two Slaughter matches that popped as 24 mans as a Twin Adder, where the same Immortal Flames full premade stood at their OP or somewhere and hung out... they didn't go to mid and didn't get any points. They showed up in Frontlines to get some of the rewards (light farming and wolfmarks I suppose) without putting in the effort basically. Hell no I don't want that type of player to have the things I work so hard for, not now and not after HW is released.

I do realize the suggestion that prompted the reply I quoted had to do more with the ability to participate in Wolves Den at certain item levels rather than the PVE-based reasons a lot of people want the restriction on the current i100/i110 gear lifted come HW, but with HW around the corner I had to speak my mind about why I want it to stay as-is.

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Originally Posted by Buff_Archer

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Yep, totally agree with you. I think the i100-110 still needs to be restricted, even if there will be new gear from 46-50. What i could imagine is basicly the following:

- old i70 gear (unrestricted, generic gear)
- old i90 gear (unrestricted, generic gear)
- old i100 gear (restricted 30-40 because of glamour)
- old i110 gear (restricted 40-45 because of glamour)
- new i120 gear (unrestricted, generic gear wich becomes the new "i90" gear)
- new i130 gear (restricted 45-50 because of glamour)

What i could also think of is, that the new frontlines (Or even all three) will be synced down to i130 instead of i80. This way it would be the first time we could make profit out of the morale stat, because the current i110 gives +20 morale so its basicly i130 already.

Also you guys have to take in mind that leveling up in pvp will become easier anyway, because new maps will obviously give you more exp in the future and so on it wil be easier to reach the glamour ranks 30+

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Originally Posted by Redfame

Team tournaments are not good, if i check my server than i can find only 1-3 acceptable pvp players in different GC and speak different languages and i will not pay for this expensive servertransfer to find a mate.

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Not being able to find good teammates does not make tournaments bad....

PvP needs to be taken into consideration in the earliest development of the game. I'm talking back when they were designing the jobs and classes from the get go.

The boat has set sail on this one.

I think Final Fantasy is the wrong World for PvP...