Dungeons and ANGRY PEOPLE !

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Originally Posted by TimGoodacre

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There are lots of good people around and you can learn lots from them - the game has no real "manual" and much of what you learn is from other people's experience. I know how dispiriting the bad seeds can be and their impact is far more than their number. Just gotta learn to ignore them (hard as this can be), and also learn as much as you can from all the good folk around.

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thanks for the kind words :) - this thread has become an example of its subject matter it seems lol .. a newbies lack of experience vs this assumption that "YOU SHOULD KNOW!!!" and if you don't then you get abuse and anger . lol

Hmm I think people in this game are VERY tolerant.
Just tell them that it is your first time in and that they should advise if there's anything noteworthy.

I'm a healer and I never got kicked or flamed, even if I made a mistake, died and wiped the party.

At 50 there is going to be ilevel gear requirements; so yes you will need to upgrade your gear in order to access those new dungeons and part of them are main story requirements.

Also if others explain to you about your gear; they are probably not hating on you; in fact they are probably giving you a heads up next time I suppose. The only problem is that they address it in a negative form, (ex. Why don't you have any jewelry?)

Also if you are not sure about anything ASK QUESTIONS!!, ask your FC, ask your friends, ask in link shell, ask your party members that you que'd with. There is nothing wrong with anything in particular that you are totally not sure of to ask. And depending on the person, he/she can help you or answer you. If you are eager to learn something, why not ask right?

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Originally Posted by majorj0nny

this is exactly my issue - there is an assumption in these dungeons that the reason Im doing stuff is to just be a dick .. or that Im an idiot or something. I never play as healer or tank ... tbh I wouldn't know how to decided to pick that as an option in the first place .. I just click the duty finder and select a dungeon - so far its mainly been the ones chucked up by the main storyline. and Ive tried to go with the flow. last night I thought we were doing well - then someone said "why don't you have any jewelry? ... why aint you a bard???" then some other abuse about me being the worse bard ever.... its frustrating when Its not something I intentionally meant to do.

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Don’t worry too much about what other people are calling you. Some people are eager to jump to conclusions and do not take into account that you are in fact new to the game.

What you would like to know is this:

When a class reaches level 30, you can unlock an additional feature to class, called a “Job”. In order to unlock the assigned Job for your class (in your case, that would be the Bard), you will have to finish the Class quests you can get at the Archers guild in New Gridania. When you’ve finished those, you will get a referral quest which will guide you to the Bard in South Shroud.

He will offer you a quest to unlock the Archer class, for which you need to fulfill certain requirements. You will need to have Archer at Level 30, Pugilist at Level 15 and completed the “The One that Got Away” Archer Class Quest.

You can unlock the Pugilist Class in Ul’dah at the Pugilist Guild in the Steps of Nald, across the street from the Ul’dahn Grand Company & Aetheryte.

Next to that, every class/job has a handful of additional skill slots available in which you can assign certain skills from other classes. There are skills available for the Bard Job which will improve your damage output and/or survivability, so it’s wise to level up more classes (for the Bard it would be the Pugilist and the Lancer) so that you will have access to these additional skills (Like: Invigorate, Blood for Blood and Internal Release).

In regards to gear, it’s like other before me have mentioned, if you look at the character window, it’s divided into 2 sections. The Left side is contains the slots for your Weapon, Head gear, Body piece, Hands, Belt, Legs and Feet. The Right side contains the slots for Off hand equipment (Like the Paladin’s Shield), Neck piece, Earrings, Bracelets and 2 seperate slots for rings. The Archer does not use an Off hand item, so that slot is left empty.

You would like to keep the equipment in those slots as up to date as possible. You can buy gear at the vendors in each level area. For you, that would be either in the camps of Coerthas or Mor Dhona.

Your best bet is to look for gear that drops in dungeons. Since those items tend to have better stats then the gear you can buy at the vendors.

My advice would be to keep doing the Dzemel Darkhold dungeon to gear up a little bit. But, since you are level 45, a better option would be to unlock your Bard Job and do their Job quests. There are 2 Job Quests where you will get Job specific gear for Level 45 and 50. This will help you out quite a bit.

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

... I checked your character...gear update is need. your left side is ok ok, but your right side....are you lazy ? Now I can understand why ppl rage and angry at you

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Admit it! You were one of them mentioned by OP! ;)

To the OP: don't worry, think at DF groups as a collection of jerks and act accordly, when you will get nice people you will be pleased, and when you meet jerks, well, you knew they were there so don't care 'em :cool:

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Originally Posted by EmpressCelene

Also if you are not sure about anything ASK QUESTIONS!!

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This.
God I hate silent people that constantly fail.

It takes me what 30 seconds to explain a boss opposed to a 3 minute wipe?
ASK. I will answer if I have the knowledge.

Unless my Keyboard goes up in smoke ofc. :D

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Admit it! You were one of them mentioned by OP! ;)

To the OP: don't worry, think at DF groups as a collection of jerks and act accordly, when you will get nice people you will be pleased, and when you meet jerks, well, you knew they were there so don't care 'em :cool:

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he is on ceberus, I am on excalibur, we will never meet

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Originally Posted by majorj0nny

the multiple disciplines thing is something Im very new too also ... I only looked into becoming a bard when someone was confused as to why I wasn't one already ... something I was confused about myself. so I only leveled up to 15 PGL last week. I'll look into the same for lancer perhaps.

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yeah, that s why I mention it. Best advice is to get all class (DoW & DoM) to lvl 15 minimum. It is boring but you will earn the benefit from the effort later. And those info about gear & multi jobs are the basic ! we are not get into how to play BRD yet !

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Originally Posted by Eye_Gore

Hmm, you sure about that? Now who seems to not know too much about how the DF works? Unless of course you never use it, then yes, you will never meet.

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No I think you don't know how it works. Cerberus and Excalibur are in different datacenters. So, yeah, they will never see each other. Now, he could see YOU, since Malboro is in the same datacenter as Excalibur. But he won't see the OP.

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Originally Posted by ispano

No I think you don't know how it works. Cerberus and Excalibur are in different datacenters. So, yeah, they will never see each other.

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yeah caught that already, thanks