[dev1079][Poll] Do you want CAPPED dungeons, or uncapped?

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Originally Posted by vax

I don't care.
Anytime soon SE will increase the lvl cap.

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I wouldn't be so sure of that... I'd put a cap increase at least 8 months down the line at the earliest..

It's most likely a year out or more.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Capping to 30 @ the R30 Dungeon "is" Challenging.
Leaving the R30 Dungeon uncapped isn't Challenging. (which will result in people crying about it.)

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Or if you're higher than 30, tackle the R50 dungeon. No need for caps.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

What the hell are you talking about? I'm talking about R50s complaining about the difficulty of something that wasn't made for their rank. They should go to the R50 dungeon if they want something challenging for their R50 character.

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its funny cuz this is the entire arguement

people who dont have 50s arent asking for a cap, its 50s asking for it to give themselves another piece of challenging content that wasnt meant to be challenging for 50s

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

If I wanted challenging r30 content, I'll run it at r30. Being past that point, there is no reward for me worth taking 60 minutes of my game time to run through content that I passed by 20 levels ago.

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Your kinda missing the point.. though I do agree with you that R50 should do R50 Dungeons. However, What if this R50 wants to do a R30 Dungeon but his Other classes are either below min. rank or kinda too high to do the R30 Dungeon?

R30 Dungeon:

R25- Impossible to Gauge ( Since its really an R30 Dungeon)
R30- High Difficulty (Very Tough)
R35- Somewhat Difficult (Tough)
R40- Difficult (Even Match)
R45- Easy (Easy Pray)
R50- Steamroll ( Too Weak to be Worthwhile)

That is how I look at it when the R30's are left uncapped

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Your kinda missing the point.. though I do agree with you that R50 should do R50 Dungeons. However, What if this R50 wants to do a R30 Dungeon but his Other classes are either below min. rank or kinda too high to do the R30 Dungeon?

R30 Dungeon:

R25- Impossible to Gauge ( Since its really an R30 Dungeon)
R30- High Difficulty (Very Tough)
R35- Somewhat Difficult (Tough)
R40- Difficult (Even Match)
R45- Easy (Easy Pray)
R50- Steamroll ( Too Weak to be Worthwhile)

That is how I look at it when the R30's are left uncapped

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Yep. And in the same sense that the game doesn't reward you with SP when you beat an "Easy Prey" mob, why should the game reward you with good Rank 30 loot for beating an "Easy Prey" dungeon?

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Yep. And in the same sense that the game doesn't reward you with SP when you beat an "Easy Prey" mob, why should the game reward you with good Rank 30 loot for beating an "Easy Prey" dungeon?

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by that same standard

low sp for killing mobs lower then you
lower gear for killing mobs lower then you

rank 30 gear isnt rank 50 gear, youll get gear thats meant for people at the range it was attached to

we arent talking about rank 50 gear here!

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Yep. And in the same sense that the game doesn't reward you with SP when you beat an "Easy Prey" mob, why should the game reward you with good Rank 30 loot for beating an "Easy Prey" dungeon?

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Because the easy prey mob may not reward me with good SP, but it doesn't change the loot that it drops.

I want the unwritten third option - enemy levels that increase based on average player level. If four rank 50's want to spend an hour fighting challenging enemies for rank 30 gear then more power to them. Their time would better be spent in the rank 45+ dungeon for the amount of effort they'd be required to put forth in both situations. They already have code to scale enemy rank up with the leve difficulty system. It'd be a lot easier for them to do this automatically in the dungeons than to try to cap the players instead.

Also, my highest rank is 43 by the way - so I currently only qualify for the 25+ dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Your kinda missing the point.. though I do agree with you that R50 should do R50 Dungeons. However, What if this R50 wants to do a R30 Dungeon but his Other classes are either below min. rank or kinda too high to do the R30 Dungeon?

R30 Dungeon:

R25- Impossible to Gauge ( Since its really an R30 Dungeon)
R30- High Difficulty (Very Tough)
R35- Somewhat Difficult (Tough)
R40- Difficult (Even Match)
R45- Easy (Easy Pray)
R50- Steamroll ( Too Weak to be Worthwhile)

That is how I look at it when the R30's are left uncapped

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What is the incentive for someone with all their levels above 40 to run a r30 Dungeon?

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Originally Posted by Jaide

I want the unwritten third option - enemy levels that increase based on average player level. If four rank 50's want to spend an hour fighting challenging enemies for rank 30 gear then more power to them. Their time would better be spent in the rank 45+ dungeon for the amount of effort they'd be required to put forth in both situations.

Also, my highest rank is 43 by the way - so I currently only qualify for the 25+ dungeon.

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Lets tackle one issue at a time please!