We cannot tolerate this...

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Originally Posted by BobtheBlackMage

Its not stupid, they have a different goal and intent with their party than you do. Flinging shit in /shout like wild chimps doesn't do anything other than annoy people. You don't have to run with them. You don't have to run your groups the same way. They can form groups however they want. Stop being an ass because you disagree with how they want to form up.

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Let me spell it out for you. I'm not heckling them because I think they're being elitist. I'm heckling them because they're making a requirement out of something not provable and in most cases not quantifiable.

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Originally Posted by BobtheBlackMage

Its not stupid, they have a different goal and intent with their party than you do. Flinging shit in /shout like wild chimps doesn't do anything other than annoy people. You don't have to run with them. You don't have to run your groups the same way. They can form groups however they want. Stop being an ass because you disagree with how they want to form up.

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Tell me how I can get to 95% dodge rating and it won't be stupid anymore.

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Originally Posted by Aleksandr

Sinith this is the part where you say: I called out someone's gear being subpar for their motivation for disagreeing with something and I was wrong. I claimed they did not make parties and I was wrong there too! It is okay to be wrong, but when you are wrong don't cling to it. You made a personal attack on me citing my armor and gear was my motivations for enjoying normal WP runs suggesting I make my own parties when I have as many as I want.

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I never assumed your gear was sub-par. I never assumed your gear was below the requirements you were complaining about. I only stated that it is selfish and over-entitled to ask people to reduce their personal standards to be more in line with your own. If you think it is ridiculous to ask for relic +1 for runs which do not require high-end gear, you are entitled to that opinion. However, you step over the line when you ask others to conform to your own personal standard. People can do as they wish, asking for more than what is required is their perogative, and has nothing to do with you.

I have no problem with admitting when I make mistakes, and I will when I do.

Your accusation that I called your gear into question is absolutely false and I challenge you to provide an example of it. If anything, I deserve the apology for your false accusations.

I think people need to get banned a few days.
Screw P2P, they can quit for all I care. Something HAS to be done with them people acting like shits all day.
They get off it easy in DF because they won't ever see you again. People need to grow up.
I reported 2 people, but lord knows what happened to them.
I still say XIV needs a Tribunal like they do in LoL, and the players decide if what they did is ban worthy and such.

Otherwise, there isn't much to do. It's pretty much harrass people free of charge. No one is ALLOWING it, it's just there's not much we can do except report them.
Not like we can all hold hands and sit down have a intervention or some "AA" help group for the jerks lol.

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Originally Posted by Sinth

I never assumed your gear was sub-par. I never assumed your gear was below the requirements you were complaining about. I only stated that it is selfish and over-entitled to ask people to reduce their personal standards to be more in line with your own. If you think it is ridiculous to ask for relic +1 for runs which do not require high-end gear, you are entitled to that opinion. However, you step over the line when you ask others to conform to your own personal standard. People can do as they wish, asking for more than what is required is their perogative, and has nothing to do with you.

I have no problem with admitting when I make mistakes, and I will when I do.

Your accusation that I called your gear into question is absolutely false and I challenge you to provide an example of it. If anything, I deserve the apology for your false accusations.

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Are you sure about that?

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Originally Posted by Sinth

So if someone's standards are higher than your own they must lower their standards just for you? That is even more selfish than setting unrealistic standards. If you don't like their standards, join another group. If you don't meet the criteria to do speed runs, then either don't do them, or level up a class / obtain gear required to do speed runs. Asking them to lower their standards is just more over-entitled socialist dribble.

Heaven forbid you start your own groups for content you wish to run.

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So you did not say someone standards were higher than mine they have to lower it just for me? That it was selfish and unrealistic, that should join other groups or level up another class and obtain the gear needed for speed runs and me opposing such was over-entitled socialist dribble? You did not suggest I start my own groups either?

I apologize I was wrong clearly someone logged in and posted as you.

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Originally Posted by Aleksandr

So you did not say someone standards were higher than mine they have to lower it just for me? That it was selfish and unrealistic, that should join other groups or level up another class and obtain the gear needed for speed runs and me opposing such was over-entitled socialist dribble? You did not suggest I start my own groups either?

I apologize I was wrong clearly someone logged in and posted as you.

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You are upset about people asking for Relic +1 to run WP. I said that it is their perogative to have any standard they wish. If you don't meet their standards you can start your own group, raise yourself to their standards, or ignore them. But asking that they lower their standards simply because you don't agree with them is wrong, and it is over-entitled socialist dribble.

Please let me know how my proposed alternatives to asking people to lower their standards made an assertion about your gear level... or are you just assuming?

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Originally Posted by Sinth

You are upset about people asking for Relic +1 to run WP. I said that it is their perogative to have any standard they wish. Ifyou don't meet their standards you can start your own group, raise yourself to their standards, or ignore them. But asking that they lower their standards simply because you don't agree with them is wrong, and it is over-entitled socialist dribble.

Please let me know how my proposed alternatives to asking people to lower their standards made an assertion about your gear level... or are you just assuming?

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When you bolded you, it sounded like you were calling him out specifically....

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Originally Posted by Sinth

So if someone's standards are higher than your own they must lower their standards just for you? That is even more selfish than setting unrealistic standards. If you don't like their standards, join another group. If you don't meet the criteria to do speed runs, then either don't do them, or level up a class / obtain gear required to do speed runs. Asking them to lower their standards is just more over-entitled socialist dribble.

Heaven forbid you start your own groups for content you wish to run.

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I just hope people aren't reporting those that leave parties. That is not a reportable offense, anyone can leave whenever they want, for any reason; even if they're being a jerk by doing so. If they're slandering you, of course, feel free to report.

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Originally Posted by C-croft

When you bolded you, it sounded like you were calling him out specifically....

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Yes, I was calling him out. Because his opinion is that they should change their standards because they are, in his opinion, too high. However, I never said that his gear was sub-par or anything to that effect.

My point is, it is wrong to ask people to change their standards simply because they don't match up with your own.

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Originally Posted by Sinth

socialist

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Pee-paw, what are you doing on the internet? I thought I told the home to cut it off from your room...